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To think some friends with one child don't understand how hard it is.

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Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 16:38

I don't mean all people. I also don't think I have it harder than a mum with one child all the time. But sometimes I don't think friends always understand it's not as easy with more than one.

I have a friend with a child the same age as mine. We did all the baby groups, park dates and regular weekly catch ups. Fast forward to me having my second child I feel it's alot more complex. Children of different ages. Trying to find activities they both can be happy and safe doing is tricky.

My friend chose to have no more and he's now at school. She's got alot more freedom now and she drives. But I've felt lately like she's been making comments like she thinks I don't do enough.

In February she said something about my son being ready for nursery. He was just two and I really can't afford nursery until it's funded. It was because he was being grouchy on the school run in his pushchair but he wasn't old enough to walk until we were away from the roads. She also said he didn't get to see other children his age. That can't be helped when my oldest was too old for the group's and I had them both until school. But also he had his sister and they have a great relationship.

She's struggled in lockdown but has been doing bits whilst her son was at school. She had her car to pop out. I've been taking mine for walks and now we are attempting a little more whilst remaining cautious when my partner's home at the weekends. I really struggled when we had our first day out, but I won't bore you with the details. I told her today on the phone and she said it's because we've been home for so long and I needed to do more. I feel she doesn't understand I couldn't do more than what we were doing. Children going into Asda was causing outrage at the time and therefore I kept them away.

She was making suggestions about me going for picnics and things. We've done these things as a family recently anyway. She was telling me I should walk to places for food and take a ball etc.

Whilst I know she means well. I don't feel she understands what it's like to have a two year old who still hasn't adapted to walking safely. Who also doesn't like his pushchair on top of a four year old who wants to do more but you have to juggle it and it ends up irritating and sometimes hard work.

She's only ever had to focus on her one child. They have all the one on one time. She can enjoy an ice cream by the river with him now and a lovely walk. But she's past all the pushchairs, tantrums and danger.

I really feel sometimes it's easier to do less and I'll admit taking both kids out isn't my favourite thing at these ages. But i feel like my friend is saying I need to get out more which has left me feeling paranoid!

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Staplemaple · 29/07/2020 19:27

This might sound crazy, but have you actually told her how you feel? Madness I know. I had a friend who kept inviting me to stuff I couldn't go to, but we spoke about it and now have a weekly facetime catch up, and are planning what to do when things are a bit different.

QuiteCleanBandit2020 · 29/07/2020 19:35

@supersonicginandtonic

I've currently got 5, 15, 12,12, 11 and 13 months. They all enjoy a day at the park. The baby the most.

It's only as hard as you want to make it.
Put him in the buggy, chuck some food and drink in a bag and take a ball. That's your afternoon sorted.
Another easy trip out for that age, go feed the ducks.

This ! I found the more you go out the easier it gets. I couldnt bear to be cooped up. You cant avoid picnics until your youngest is 4 ! If he bolts then he goes in the pushchair, end of. I found a change of scenery kept me sane and also if it was safe got them to run around and tire themselves out It sounds like your friend is worried about you OP Have you considered going to your GP?
Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 19:39

I can't tell the GP I don't enjoy picnics.

I do go out. I do strap him in when he bolts. I'm not avoiding picnics until he's four. I just don't want to do it all the time. I don't want to drag two kids out most days to do those things.i am not cooped up all the time apart from lockdown limitations. I think you don't understand me. You wrote that like I never go out.

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Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 19:47

@Staplemaple

I have told her in the past what happens in certain situations. We talked about meeting next week. She instantly suggested walking to a park that's 30 minutes away when there's four closer. I'll probably go and try and enjoy it but it won't be easy. She definitely means well but I don't think she gets it. I sometimes get in here first and suggest the one near our house but I think she's thinking of going to the cafe there. Last time we went that was stressful too because my son screamed the whole time. Didn't want the toast I got him. He just wanted to run. But he was not quite two then.

He isn't as advanced as my daughter as at this age. He is starting to understand but he's still quite baby like. He's finally starting to say sentences but it has taken him ages to get talking. So I think we've treated him like a baby for longer which hasn't helped. Not in any massive silly ways. Just find it harder to bribe him or make him understand if that makes sense. At this age my daughter would wee on the potty for a chocolate button. But if I said that to him he wouldn't get it. So he's definitely harder work than her. But I presume that's because he's not had as much one on one and lockdown has robbed him massively this year of developing his social skills and going out places.

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Mary46 · 29/07/2020 19:51

Hi op its not easy get them out and about so she mightnt realise the planning bit of that. I decided years ago just do my own pace as found my friend competitive about routines!!

Staplemaple · 29/07/2020 19:56

Have you been really direct though? You sound like you are articulate and thoughtful, and she seems to be making different plans which she probably thinks are more accomodating. If she is a good friend be honest but really direct.

Ethelfleda · 29/07/2020 20:03

Two kids are as easy as one kid - when the youngest child is independent enough. It's not that her child is easier or having two kids is much harder. It's the fact that you have a toddler and she does not. That's all

Meant in all earnest:
This is a perfect example of a MN argument based on a high level of critical thinking Smile
Perfectly executed!

Ethelfleda · 29/07/2020 20:06

To add for the benefit of the OP though...
I’m sorry you’re struggling a bit at the moment. I hope it gets better and easier for you.
To use a trite phrase - this too shall pass Flowers

elliejjtiny · 29/07/2020 20:06

It' sounds to me that your problem is more the age of your youngest rather than having 2 children. I have 5 and my youngest is 6 but he has autism and global development delay so he is probably similar developmentally to your little one. We are going through that hard to take him out stage at the moment and I feel your pain.

DressingGownofDoom · 29/07/2020 20:09

Have you considered talking to the health visitor about possible speech and language delay and the effect that might be having on his behaviour?

Rose789 · 29/07/2020 20:15

Your friend sounds like someone who always tries to fix problems which can get tedious. I have a friend like that if she phones and I say I can’t talk long the baby is teething for example. Instead of saying oh no poor you guys (which is all I really needed) she will list 7 suggestions for teething, ask if I’ve done X,Y and Z and then send a link to a teething toy she has found on amazon. She means well but it is exhausting after awhile.

I’ve been shielding with a 20month and a 5 year old and it’s been shit. But friend will say oh but you could pop to the beach. Umm not according to the government I can’t.
It sounds stressful not having a car and that you understandably are jealous of your friends freedom. But I think when you drive you kind of don’t think of distances. I know I’ve done that before with a friend who doesn’t drive - ooh should we go here they do lush scones and there’s a park for the kids? She will not hesitate to say no you lunatic, that would take 2 buses and a 2 mile walk with 2 kids in tow. We’ll go to the park 10 minutes from mine and then come here and have a cuppa.
Have you tried toddler reins for ds btw? Gives me so much more confidence when out and about with a toddler.

Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 20:16

We did consider asking the health visitor but they never phoned back due to lockdown! They were supposed to see us in April. But he's coming along now. So perhaps that's just an area he wasn't as fast in?

He's saying a fair bit the last two months and can say some sentances. But still lots of jibberish..can say most words now as individuals but when he wants to explain he isn't always clear. He's actually started saying colours and counts to ten too so I really hope he's well on his way now. X

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missingmum · 29/07/2020 20:21

I get you op. 2 is much harder than one end of.
Yes at times my 2 play lovely together and they always have a friend on tap, however having more than one child means your attention is always split.

JeSuisPoulet · 29/07/2020 20:23
  1. You had 2 fairly close together - well enough that one isn't safely walking alone by the time the second is toddling
  2. You don't drive/have a car
  3. You don't seem to have communicated to her the difficulties you have expressed to a forum of strangers
  4. She sounds as if she is trying to be sociable with you which you will miss if she stops.
Miseryl · 29/07/2020 20:32

Yes it is much more difficult with two. I have no idea how people cope with 3+.

JeSuisPoulet · 29/07/2020 20:33

Finding this fascinating as 2 friends have been telling me how much easier it is with 2+ all through lockdown! They learn better, play better, do chores better, try to impress each other by doing stuff all day...

DressingGownofDoom · 29/07/2020 20:34

@Dandelion34

We did consider asking the health visitor but they never phoned back due to lockdown! They were supposed to see us in April. But he's coming along now. So perhaps that's just an area he wasn't as fast in?

He's saying a fair bit the last two months and can say some sentances. But still lots of jibberish..can say most words now as individuals but when he wants to explain he isn't always clear. He's actually started saying colours and counts to ten too so I really hope he's well on his way now. X

There will be a certain amount of frustration coming from the fact that he can't fully express himself yet, what interested me is I get the feeling from what you say that his receptive language isn't maybe as well developed as it could be for this age, so he isn't understanding your instructions. This will lead to stressful situations because he acts inappropriately because he doesn't understand the rules - you get stress and cross and scold him (as we all do) - he becomes overwhelmed with frustration and tantrums.

I could very well be wrong, you know your son and I'm just going on a few sentences I've read here. But there wouldn't be any harm in discussing it with the HV. Maybe she will arrange for a hearing test, glue ear can lead to delays in speech and language and what looks like difficult behaviour.

Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 20:42

@DressingGownofDoom

Interesting as his dad had these troubles as a baby! I will look into that. Thank you!

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DressingGownofDoom · 29/07/2020 20:42

And sorry @Dandelion34 to answer your actual question YANBU I only have one but it's pretty obvious how two would be harder. And there's nothing wrong with staying at home, society seems to make us obsessed with trailing our kids all round the place all the time. Probably so we spend £££ while out and about.

2020wasShocking · 29/07/2020 21:14

Can be easier with two at times ie to entertain each other, but general you’re right, when you’ve got two, it’s not as straightforward.

My cousin has a 3 year old and she can hardly get out the door for 9am. Then I have a sister who had 4 kids under 5.

My cousin laughs and says she can’t understand how my sister does it (get them all out the house and dressed)

I also think that that my cousin gives so much attention to her little one that she simply wouldn’t have the time for this if she had more.

ColourMeExhausted · 29/07/2020 21:31

It's definitely harder with two, well, it is in my experience anyway! My DC are similar ages to yours OP - 5 and 2. Playdates usually revolve around 5 year old DD and her friends - her four closest friends are all only children. Which means I spend a lot of time running around after DS2, while whichever friend I'm with looks out for the 5 year olds! It's exhausting and frustrating, and I can't blame DS as he just wants to play and not sit still. Plus, he's going through a very long hitting stage, so he usually ends up terrorising DD and her friends...which is awkward.

My friends are nice about it but there have been times when I just don't feel they really get it. They'll make a suggestion for somewhere to go that would be brilliant for 5 year olds but a disaster for a 2 year old, and it means I have to ask if we can just go somewhere that will suit everyone (pre lockdown that was soft play, oh how I miss thee!). Then I feel guilty because I feel like I'm ruining it for everyone else. But it's just easier to do a playdate that's contained eg soft play, garden/indoors with a toddler.

That said, lockdown has forced me to make changes and now DS will walk for long distances (I refuse to take the buggy so that he's getting exercise as he needs it to tire him out). He is also getting better on his balance bike so can try and keep up with DD and friends (gets v frustrated when he can't though!).

But having any DC can be hard work, and it depends on the child. I think it will get easier as they get older, this is a difficult age. I'm pleased that the napping has stopped as that really used to restrict our day and what we could do!

I think your friend was maybe coming from a kind place but unfortunately came across as patronising. I'd be annoyed too.

LucyTamedOgres · 29/07/2020 21:41

It’s the same for those that don’t have dc wondering why it’s so difficult to meet up at a restaurant etc when you have a young baby. Before I had a dc I had this wonderful picture in my head of how easy life would be, how a baby would just slot into our lives and we could carry on much the same but with this tiny bundle of joy.

Then those with an easy first baby look at you as if you’re nuts when you seem stressed at the thought of going out to any social event EVER AGAIN with your full on baby who has colic AND reflux AND doesn’t sleep and screams all. Of. The. Time.

I only have only dc who is now 13 and is doing ok even though he’s an ‘only’. He has friends online who he’s talked to non stop during lockdown, he’s met up with them since the easing of restrictions etc but he’s also extremely happy with his own company and ours. I would never be as demanding as your friend though OP, as I know how difficult the younger years can be.

It’s not down to your df only having one child, it’s down to her as an individual.

The dynamics of every family is unique.

PleasePassTheCoffeeThanks · 29/07/2020 21:43

Well I had twins and I don’t drive either, do I win? 🙄

demelza82 · 29/07/2020 21:47

Ah, this thread is making me feel so smug and happy to have chosen to have just one ......Smile

lockdownsunflowers · 29/07/2020 21:51

When you have one you have to get out more because you are the entertainment otherwise!