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To think some friends with one child don't understand how hard it is.

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Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 16:38

I don't mean all people. I also don't think I have it harder than a mum with one child all the time. But sometimes I don't think friends always understand it's not as easy with more than one.

I have a friend with a child the same age as mine. We did all the baby groups, park dates and regular weekly catch ups. Fast forward to me having my second child I feel it's alot more complex. Children of different ages. Trying to find activities they both can be happy and safe doing is tricky.

My friend chose to have no more and he's now at school. She's got alot more freedom now and she drives. But I've felt lately like she's been making comments like she thinks I don't do enough.

In February she said something about my son being ready for nursery. He was just two and I really can't afford nursery until it's funded. It was because he was being grouchy on the school run in his pushchair but he wasn't old enough to walk until we were away from the roads. She also said he didn't get to see other children his age. That can't be helped when my oldest was too old for the group's and I had them both until school. But also he had his sister and they have a great relationship.

She's struggled in lockdown but has been doing bits whilst her son was at school. She had her car to pop out. I've been taking mine for walks and now we are attempting a little more whilst remaining cautious when my partner's home at the weekends. I really struggled when we had our first day out, but I won't bore you with the details. I told her today on the phone and she said it's because we've been home for so long and I needed to do more. I feel she doesn't understand I couldn't do more than what we were doing. Children going into Asda was causing outrage at the time and therefore I kept them away.

She was making suggestions about me going for picnics and things. We've done these things as a family recently anyway. She was telling me I should walk to places for food and take a ball etc.

Whilst I know she means well. I don't feel she understands what it's like to have a two year old who still hasn't adapted to walking safely. Who also doesn't like his pushchair on top of a four year old who wants to do more but you have to juggle it and it ends up irritating and sometimes hard work.

She's only ever had to focus on her one child. They have all the one on one time. She can enjoy an ice cream by the river with him now and a lovely walk. But she's past all the pushchairs, tantrums and danger.

I really feel sometimes it's easier to do less and I'll admit taking both kids out isn't my favourite thing at these ages. But i feel like my friend is saying I need to get out more which has left me feeling paranoid!

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Michaelbaubles · 29/07/2020 17:23

I think it’s definitely harder with a 2 and 4 year old rather than one 4 year old and posters who say two is easier are being a bit disingenuous about this specific situation! However I will say that mine are now 6 and 8 and over lockdown I have been SO happy to have two rather than one - I can’t imagine having to be the sole source of entertainment for one 8 year old all this time. I can send mine off together to play! So later on you will get the benefit of having more than one child, but I remember it being very difficult at times when they were small.

Flightsoffancy · 29/07/2020 17:25

You sound really stressed out op. My feeling is that this hasn't actually got much to do with your friend. You sound like you're having a tough time and are looking at what seems to you like her easy life with some envy, which is understandable. Her comments, probably designed to be supportive rather than critical, have hit a nerve. I would put her out of your mind and focus on what you can do to make your load a bit lighter. Don't spend a load of energy thinking about what you think someone else thinks you should be doing - it's just going to wear you out even more. Do what works for you and do it confidently Flowers

Rubytoosday · 29/07/2020 17:27

I haven’t been able to have any children but increasingly as I’ve got older I’ve thought for all sorts of reasons if I was lucky enough to be able to have any then I might stop at one, though obviously there’s lots of good reasons to have more than one if you have that choice.
I think the point is if you have more than one you chose to, generally so on balance you’re the one that should probably suck it up unless your friend is being particularly heartless and unreasonable which I don’t think she really is.
But also why do we all judge each other?
I get sick to death of being judged for not having any children.
But then also as I have got older I realise it never stops, does it? You get judged (less harshly perhaps) even when you do have kids - for having too few, too many, whatever else. And often women are the hardest on each other.
I think someone mentioned empathy. And also that it’s not a competition .....

cg88 · 29/07/2020 17:28

The grass is always greener, during lockdown for example I imagine it's been easier having 2 in terms of kids having another child to play with as opposed to my 1 child who went 10 weeks without playing with another child and only having me as company. I find I'm constantly trying to keep her busy when she's off school so she doesn't get bored or feel lonely. But then I also accept that things like the school run are definitely easier with 1. Me stopping at 1 and you having 2 doesn't automatically make my life easier there are lots of factors 🤷🏼‍♀️

Jellycatspyjamas · 29/07/2020 17:29

I think it’s sometimes hard to remember how difficult X stage is once you’ve passed that stage. It is much easier to get out and about with one (and more necessary too), and going at toddler pace with and older child is frustrating. Mine are older and they can play together, have each other to chat with etc which is easier but trying to keep both entertained in their own interests is a challenge (never mind trying to educate them at home).

It’s swings and roundabouts but I’d be upset that my friend didn’t understand that I was going through a difficult stage - empathy doesn’t cost anything.

AnneLovesGilbert · 29/07/2020 17:33

This is as much about you not driving as the numbers of children you each have.

I’m not sure why she’s making so many suggestions if it’s not because you’re complaining to her. And nothing wrong with having the occasional moan. But she’s chosen one and you’ve chosen two - both presumably for a reason. You can’t expect her to understand what you’re going through because it’s not what she wanted and she hasn’t experienced it.

Do you invite her over to yours?

UpToonGirl · 29/07/2020 17:33

TBH it sounds like you're making a lot of excuses why you can't do things. I've got three and yes, I have to be more alert when out and about but what's the alternative? Doing nothing? I don't mean this harshly as it can be daunting taking more than one out for the day but as long as you aren't trying to take them somewhere unsuitable and you have some snacks (bribery) with you what's the worst that could happen.

I wouldn't take my three to a waterpark on my own but wouldn't think twice about the park/beach/picnic etc.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 29/07/2020 17:34

I think people can be so oblivious with other people’s situations. Like if you are the first amongst your friends to have kids and they completely don’t understand that you don’t really come and go as you please, that you wake up at 6am on a good day and it’s relentless. I had friends round in the garden recently, one stared at my 3 yr old utterly bemused and said “she’s got a lot of energy doesn’t she” Hmm
I don’t know what it’s like to have 2 children, or one with SEN....which is fine but yes the unsolicited advice would annoy me.

Have to say though- learn to drive if you can!

Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 17:37

Thanks everyone.

Absolutely is easier with two in respect to fun, playing and keeping eachother amused. My little boy has got alot out of lockdown in terms of his sister to play with. It's absolutely not a competiton. She choose to just have one. I am not trying to say her life is easy. Just that I feel she doesn't understand why it's easier to do less this year. Last year was easier as he slept in his pushchair and was more content. This year he's hard work. My daughter is thankfully getting into a stage where she's more independent and helpful. She's started wanting to tidy the living room and Hoover which is sweet and helpful. We have lots of positives.

I just sometimes want to explain it to her but I feel she would think I was miss negative.

I am definitely going through some stuff and I think it upset me that she thought I needed a picnic. Felt like a get a grip comment. But I felt she wasn't considering that those things sound lovely on paper but in reality are a ball ache unless my partner is with me.

I think when he's 4 and daughter is 7 it will be a while different time and hopefully one that's easier. I love them to death but they have sucked alot of My energy since march and getting out again is not as easy as I hoped.

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Sosososotired · 29/07/2020 17:39

I must admit at the time I found having 1 tough, I also find have 3 tough. It’s tough for everyone. One of my friends has 1 child as she finds it hard to entertain her all the time, and she can be very clingy. My 3 are fairly good at amusing themselves, albeit for a short time.

Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 17:40

I tried to drive ten years ago. Failed twice and couldn't afford it so gave up. But it is in the to do list when youngest goes to school and I can get working again. Fingers crossed.

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Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 17:44

It sure is hard in different ways. I always acknowledge that she has to amuse him herself and he doesn't have the sibling to wear him out. But in other ways he gets more time and focus. Where as my kids get less focus but get to fall out and play and stuff.

I literally was talking about this particular situation and not saying anyone is any worse off. I'm sorry if it read that way.

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RainingMeatballs · 29/07/2020 17:46

I think an only is my personal nightmare. All the entertainment needed, their sole conservation some days. I’m too crap a parent!
I have 5. I feed them, cuddle them when they leave the pack and evade role play etc entirely. I’m sort of just final say, they police and entertain each other.
Going out people don’t approach the checkout etc if you have a pack, so very little hassle out and about

SantaClaritaDiet · 29/07/2020 17:48

She choose to just have one.

and good for her if she has. You CHOSE to have 2. You sound very resentful when it was actually your own choice!

Plus you have no way to know if she wanted another one or not. Because it's really none of your business.

Pamalarrrr · 29/07/2020 17:52

Only got to about 2/3rds of your post, but reckon I got the gist! But yanbu. Of course 2 is harder than one in the situation you describe

Bluntness100 · 29/07/2020 17:53

I think you’re just really struggling op and resent she has it easier And can do things and maybe feel a bit guilty about how you’re coping and what you’re able to do. This really isn’t about her. It’s about how you’re feeling.

Is there any way you can get some help? Some time to yourself. Someone to look after one whilst you do something with the other?,

Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 17:54

@SantaClaritaDiet

I don't understand the aggression in your comment? Not the case at all. Why would I regret my second child? You have missed the point completely.

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supersonicginandtonic · 29/07/2020 17:56

I've currently got 5, 15, 12,12, 11 and 13 months. They all enjoy a day at the park. The baby the most.

It's only as hard as you want to make it.
Put him in the buggy, chuck some food and drink in a bag and take a ball. That's your afternoon sorted.
Another easy trip out for that age, go feed the ducks.

AliceinBunnyland · 29/07/2020 17:57

I’m sure 2 small children is difficult (I wouldn’t know, I’m one of those lazy part time mothers with one) but presumably you had an inkling about that before you chose to have a second? She’s made a choice (or possibly not, secondary infertility is a thing) and you’ve made yours, it doesn’t all have to be a competition about how hard life is and who has it worse.

This.

There could be things going on in her life that you don't have to deal with that you don't know about.

And there's always the possibility that someone with one child or no children would love to have more and haven't been able to.

Her making comments about what you should be doing, if unprompted, is unnecessary, but this is nothing to do with whose life is harder or how many children you each have.

Sweetnhappy1 · 29/07/2020 18:00

I found it really really hard when my two were young. It was really difficult to get out and I was always feeling that the second got dragged around to stuff so that the first could get out. I'd also feel guilty that neither were getting quality time with me and my second didn't get the time I had been able to spend with my first when she was a baby. None of it mattered in the long run and neither kid got damaged. Child number two didn't get my attention much one on one but had three of us to give him attention. They both got bigger and life got easier. Now at 12 and 9 they are a doddle. Don't worry OP it will get so much easier, I promise!

Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 18:02

@Sweetnhappy1

Thank you. I think it will definitely get easier soon.

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LordGribeau · 29/07/2020 18:04

I think the one thing parents of only children might not understand is the constant bickering between siblings. I have 3 and it never stops. Someone is also fighting with someone, or complaining that someone is looking out their car window/breathing their air/just generally existing. That is the bit I've found most exhausting in the last 5 months particularly.

HenriettaSpoffer · 29/07/2020 18:05

I wonder OP if you may resent your friends freedoms? I have 2 children, they are grown now. When they were young it took a lot of organisation to be able to participate in things but i did it. I also drive, which helps.

I also had friends who had 3 and 4 very young children at that time and they also worked full time, if they hadn't been as organised as they were, we would never have done anything as a group.

I do not think your friend is the issue here. She is just trying to maintain a friendship with you and if you value that friendship you need to look at how you can make time for it.

hibbledobble · 29/07/2020 18:06

Honestly, I think you are making a far bigger deal of this than it is, and I say that as a mother of many (more than 2!).

Having 2 doesn't need to be much harder than one, and there are solutions to the issues you are facing. For example, being strict about either reigns or a pushchair.

For socializing, both can go to under 5 stat and plays.

Ultimately, several can be less work than one, as they play together and entertain each other.

laudete · 29/07/2020 18:10

YANBU. Two kids are as easy as one kid - when the youngest child is independent enough. It's not that her child is easier or having two kids is much harder. It's the fact that you have a toddler and she does not. That's all.