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To think some friends with one child don't understand how hard it is.

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Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 16:38

I don't mean all people. I also don't think I have it harder than a mum with one child all the time. But sometimes I don't think friends always understand it's not as easy with more than one.

I have a friend with a child the same age as mine. We did all the baby groups, park dates and regular weekly catch ups. Fast forward to me having my second child I feel it's alot more complex. Children of different ages. Trying to find activities they both can be happy and safe doing is tricky.

My friend chose to have no more and he's now at school. She's got alot more freedom now and she drives. But I've felt lately like she's been making comments like she thinks I don't do enough.

In February she said something about my son being ready for nursery. He was just two and I really can't afford nursery until it's funded. It was because he was being grouchy on the school run in his pushchair but he wasn't old enough to walk until we were away from the roads. She also said he didn't get to see other children his age. That can't be helped when my oldest was too old for the group's and I had them both until school. But also he had his sister and they have a great relationship.

She's struggled in lockdown but has been doing bits whilst her son was at school. She had her car to pop out. I've been taking mine for walks and now we are attempting a little more whilst remaining cautious when my partner's home at the weekends. I really struggled when we had our first day out, but I won't bore you with the details. I told her today on the phone and she said it's because we've been home for so long and I needed to do more. I feel she doesn't understand I couldn't do more than what we were doing. Children going into Asda was causing outrage at the time and therefore I kept them away.

She was making suggestions about me going for picnics and things. We've done these things as a family recently anyway. She was telling me I should walk to places for food and take a ball etc.

Whilst I know she means well. I don't feel she understands what it's like to have a two year old who still hasn't adapted to walking safely. Who also doesn't like his pushchair on top of a four year old who wants to do more but you have to juggle it and it ends up irritating and sometimes hard work.

She's only ever had to focus on her one child. They have all the one on one time. She can enjoy an ice cream by the river with him now and a lovely walk. But she's past all the pushchairs, tantrums and danger.

I really feel sometimes it's easier to do less and I'll admit taking both kids out isn't my favourite thing at these ages. But i feel like my friend is saying I need to get out more which has left me feeling paranoid!

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Crackerofdoom · 30/07/2020 18:18

I have 3 and I often feel that my friends with just one are able to get up and go whilst I am running along behind looking a mess with 3 kids and all their shit dragging behind me.

BUT I also know that having just 1 can be more demanding in other ways. My friend only has 1 (not through choice) and she has to spend far more time playing with her daugter who is 8 because she has things she needs a second person for. My friend is constantly being an audience, shop customer, hospital patient etc. Whilst my 3 just sort it out amongst themselves.

It really is just different. Not better or worse. Besides, if when they grow up, one of them becomes / marries a dick, I will still have 2 nice children to visit me in my nursing home Grin

WatchoutfortheROUS · 30/07/2020 18:19

I think YABU, sorry. Having two under 4/5 isnt tricky to find things to do surely, they can do the same things in terms of groups, days out, etc. You make it sound like you can't do certain things but I don't understand why not?

morefun · 30/07/2020 18:21

I had just one for six years and knew it was gonna be harder... it has definitely made it so difficult to do things! Sympathy. Gets easier with youngest 3+, hang on in there

5363738383j · 30/07/2020 18:22

Yes I did find one child very intense. More than one and they fan out and sort of disappear behind a wall of noise.

CallmeBadJanet · 30/07/2020 18:23

@Dandelion34 It sounds like it's nothing to do with her having one child, she's just really controlling. People who say you should put DC in nursery/go out for walks are telling you what to do to justify their own choices. She's insecure, she probably doesn't understand how it is for you and lacks the imagination to do so. I had one, would have loved another but it didn't happen. But then I have also had to support DP and other family members with long term illnesses, which I would have struggled with, with 2+ children. We all have different circumstances. You do what you want to do and let her jog on. Enjoy your littlies Flowers

Mywifeandkids1 · 30/07/2020 18:31

OP I feel you! I posted something similar before and the responses were very different! I think it’s a case of you are at different stages of your life, have you thought about meeting up without the kids ? I found it particularly hard to watch one child, whilst also keep an eye on the baby/toddler, whilst also enjoy a conversation with my friend. SO much harder than if you have one child to keep an eye on!

Heycaz74 · 30/07/2020 18:33

Do what is right for you. Don't feel guilty. I have 3 children and when they were young we kept things fairly simple for much of the time. I don't drive and am a single parent. TBH it doesn't take much to entertain little kids. I used to just take a picnic and head to the park which was just down the road. They loved that. It is a fairly modern concept that kids need to be entertained. Kids who are not over-scheduled learn to explore and use their imagination.

starsparkle08 · 30/07/2020 18:38

Every child is different . I have a child that requires 2:1 supervision with carers and he is 8 due to turn 9 . He maybe one child but because of his complex disabilities and challenging behaviours he can be a nightmare .
My sister has two children and I would rather look after both of them as even together they are more manageable.
So definitely I would say goes on a child by child . All children can be difficult but some can be more difficult than other

Lelophants · 30/07/2020 18:41

She's probably worried about you and trying to push your out of your comfort zone. I have friends with 2 and I know it's insanely tough which is why I'm waiting a bit! I think most people know, even if they dont entirely get it. Is she one of those who always has to give you a solution?

starsparkle08 · 30/07/2020 18:42

Also there is a choice in having children and accepting the life you are given . Mine isn’t what I would have ticked boxes for when pregnant . But I have to deal with it now as it was my decision to have him.

MyHeartIsInCornwall · 30/07/2020 18:44

I have 3 boys and my youngest has ASD...so I completely get where you are coming from. Whilst it does depend on each child and their ages, in your situation it’s relevant to your relationship with her. She unfortunately isn’t thinking about anything other than her child’s capabilities. I would personally not share any info with her that she doesn’t need to hear and if she suggests a meet-up that doesn’t suit your situation, then just tell her that. I don’t think she has any right to tell you what you should or shouldn’t be doing with your children as you don’t with her.

My youngest runs off and doesn’t have any understanding of safety, much like a toddler, so I have to be really careful about where I take him and his brothers. we still have to use backpack reigns and he’s 4 1/2. I make no shakes now about just saying it how it is if doesn’t suit, because I’m not willing to be stressed out to the max and on edge when there are other activities we can do where the situation is lower risk. (Haven’t read the whole thread so apologies if I’m repeating what anyone else has said.)

DagenhamRoundhouse · 30/07/2020 18:45

Sonny Liston was one of 25!

Lelophants · 30/07/2020 18:47

@WatchoutfortheROUS always someone 🙄

Dandelion34 · 30/07/2020 18:50

Thank you everyone. I do absolutely agree that kids like simple things. I'm not sure if I'm lazy or unsociable but I quite like doing those things on our own. My oldest behaves loads better when it's just us three. It also means we can go and come home when we are ready. I just have always struggled with taking both out to meet people further away on foot. I know it's achievable though. We've done it many times. But lately it's become a chore. But I'm not saying we don't do simple things. I'm just saying she said I need to do lots of little things like picnics to get back into life and I felt she was almost patronising me as I'm capable of doing bits like that. She walks her dog daily too. Again that's getting out for a reason. Different circumstances again.

Perhaps it hasn't helped that I've had my eldest back home and if she had been at school all this time we would be feeling completely different. But I'm just tired out. Some mums are supermums. One of my other friends can't stand to be home and takes her kids out daily. I do respect other people's choices. I just feel my friend is presuming I stay home because I've got issues and I need to try harder.

I agree she's a problem solver rather than a listener at times. My mum never used to take us out all the time and we didn't have extra activities. I did go to brownies once I could take myself though! Maybe I've ended up like my mum and feel happy in my own company. Not sure really. But I don't feel I'm home too much considering how complex the world is now. To be honest coronavirus has sucked the fun out of most things this year.

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Spinachfinger · 30/07/2020 18:53

Could you ask your friend to meet at the park closest to you? Just say it's a bit easier for you for the time being.

I have 2 boys, i remember how hard it was getting out of the house to do anything when they were smaller and I drove! It is a monumental pita with all the paraphernalia small ones need. They are 7 and 4 now and a lot easier to take places. You will get there, like you said, it's a tough stage because toddlers are demanding. Also, all kids are different, we cannot predict how their personalities will be.

You sound like you are doing enough. When your friend makes suggestions just take it on the chin and smile. She's trying to be helpful in her own way.

Feelingmeh4545 · 30/07/2020 18:55

@Spinachfinger
Sometimes we do but mostly we don't because she likes to walk the dog at the same time. Which is fair enough. The dog always comes with us so it's usually based around that. I think I will suggest it though for the week after next.

beeetyj · 30/07/2020 19:24

[quote Dandelion34]@BitOfFun
Yes I think you are right. I just hope she understands what it's like and that going out more isn't always possible. Only so far I can go in the week.

I am quite introverted anyway and I just love my partner's company. We are a team and I relax better knowing he's there to round them up/take over/push the pushchair/ drive us places. I do love my friend too but we are definitely different in these ways. She sees her dad everyday too where as I see mine sometimes. So perhaps she's just seeing if from her pov of needing to be busy to feel sane.

I feel better anyway. Thanks everyone. I was expecting a full on attack but it's been mixed and fair![/quote]
Your partner ‘drives you places’ and yet your children are travel sick and can’t go in other peoples cars?

You think people are relaxing too quickly during a pandemic, ok that’s your view, but what has that got to do with having one or two children?

Your friend is probably worried about you turning into a recluse. Have you explained to her that it’s not because you’re worried about the virus, it’s just because it’s all just too much like hard work that you don’t want to meet her for a picnic/walk/coffee/whatever?

Cockadoodledooo · 30/07/2020 19:28

You just sound like you don't really like her very much tbh 🤷‍♀️

Tessabelle1 · 30/07/2020 19:41

I had three under 4, we did groups so I'm not sure why you say the 4 year old is too old for them? Life is hard for everyone at times, maybe she's tried for for years to have a second child and it hasn't happened, maybe she looks at you and thinks of all the things she would do differently if she had 2. I wouldn't take it so personally, be a bit more open to going to different places, your children need to learn appropriate behaviour, that's up to you to teach them.

Straycats · 30/07/2020 20:41

I think you need to put on your big girls pants, may get slated but I loved getting out and about. My first two there was only 19 months gap, had no car until just before my fourth child, we walked everywhere. Didn’t think myself unfortunate about not driving. Got on with it and found it easier and nicer outdoors, shopping parks etc
Sorry to say but find your attitude self indulgent.

niugboo · 30/07/2020 20:42

I had one. And then two. One is infinitely more work.

GinPin2 · 30/07/2020 20:46

I had 3 under 4 for 2 weeks and then three under 5 for a whole year. I called it my Gap Year. Didn't do any teaching for that whole year. With the girls all having September / October birthdays, my eldest had not started school. Absolutely loved that year. Spent the time at mother/ toddler groups, went on the bus down to the beach and the town ( in the days when you had to fold pushchairs up to go on the bus!) The only thing was that we also moved counties for my husband's new teaching job and I so missed my friends but the groups enabled me to make new friends. Would love to have that time again, it wasn't all plain sailing though, my middle daughter , ( not quite 2 when her sister was born) was always difficult as a child. From experience though I think having more children is easier if ( like mine) they play together. I have 5 grandchildren, 2 sets of a girl followed by a boy close in age, and 1 baby grandaughter yet to have siblings. In one family the boy wants to be on his playstation and will never play with his sister so she needs a lot of entertaining, like having an only child! Swings and rounabouts I'd say :)

Fowles94 · 30/07/2020 20:51

I've got 2 15 months apart and honestly would prefer that than my sisters situation with 1. He's 9 and he constantly needs attention in lockdown. She's had no rest from him.

blosstree · 30/07/2020 21:00

Tbh OP it sounds like your issue is that you don't drive, not that you have two children.

Shona52 · 30/07/2020 21:19

Yes everyone circumstances are different but that doesn’t mean it’s easier. We have 1 DS who’s autistic aged 8. My husband works away a lot (but a lot more over the last few months 10 days home since 10 April) both sets of parents in shielding category (my dad having had been diagnosed with cancer about 6 weeks ago) so essentially I’ve been doing the whole of home schooling g/lockdown alone (and starting to really feel it) My son my the time he’s gone back to school will have gone 5 months without playing with another child.

Yes it’s harder to juggle tow but then they do have each other to play with (or fight at time yes) but the grass is not always greener on the other side.

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