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To think some friends with one child don't understand how hard it is.

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Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 16:38

I don't mean all people. I also don't think I have it harder than a mum with one child all the time. But sometimes I don't think friends always understand it's not as easy with more than one.

I have a friend with a child the same age as mine. We did all the baby groups, park dates and regular weekly catch ups. Fast forward to me having my second child I feel it's alot more complex. Children of different ages. Trying to find activities they both can be happy and safe doing is tricky.

My friend chose to have no more and he's now at school. She's got alot more freedom now and she drives. But I've felt lately like she's been making comments like she thinks I don't do enough.

In February she said something about my son being ready for nursery. He was just two and I really can't afford nursery until it's funded. It was because he was being grouchy on the school run in his pushchair but he wasn't old enough to walk until we were away from the roads. She also said he didn't get to see other children his age. That can't be helped when my oldest was too old for the group's and I had them both until school. But also he had his sister and they have a great relationship.

She's struggled in lockdown but has been doing bits whilst her son was at school. She had her car to pop out. I've been taking mine for walks and now we are attempting a little more whilst remaining cautious when my partner's home at the weekends. I really struggled when we had our first day out, but I won't bore you with the details. I told her today on the phone and she said it's because we've been home for so long and I needed to do more. I feel she doesn't understand I couldn't do more than what we were doing. Children going into Asda was causing outrage at the time and therefore I kept them away.

She was making suggestions about me going for picnics and things. We've done these things as a family recently anyway. She was telling me I should walk to places for food and take a ball etc.

Whilst I know she means well. I don't feel she understands what it's like to have a two year old who still hasn't adapted to walking safely. Who also doesn't like his pushchair on top of a four year old who wants to do more but you have to juggle it and it ends up irritating and sometimes hard work.

She's only ever had to focus on her one child. They have all the one on one time. She can enjoy an ice cream by the river with him now and a lovely walk. But she's past all the pushchairs, tantrums and danger.

I really feel sometimes it's easier to do less and I'll admit taking both kids out isn't my favourite thing at these ages. But i feel like my friend is saying I need to get out more which has left me feeling paranoid!

OP posts:
FrenchtoEnglish · 29/07/2020 18:11

I bet it's really hard with five kids if you've only got one leg and you live in a studio flat and two of your kids like boxing, you're breastfeeding three of them and your husband ran off with your sister's husband. And your sister keeps coming round... but she's is a vegan and you have to make her a separate meal. Imagine that.

Sailingblue · 29/07/2020 18:13

I think basically having multiple small people during lockdown is rubbish. I have a 1 and 4 year old and it’s been really tough. Their needs are very different and the older one has not enjoyed being stuck with the younger one at all. One on one they’re both delightful but both together it’s bloody hard work and you can’t do normal things easily at the moment. I’m sure in time having two will be easier in some ways when they are older but at this age and during these times it is more than double the work.

whereorwhere · 29/07/2020 18:17

I have three - one is harder than two and three is easier than two.

anon444877 · 29/07/2020 18:18

I don’t have a single friend who isn’t struggling a bit in some way at this point, whatever your circumstances. You were moaning, she was feeling stressed so she gave you a load of silly advice. Why not try and get out together, the two of you?

Allmyarseandpeggymartin · 29/07/2020 18:18

I thought this was going to be a “harder for parents with only children” op cos “multiples play together”

I think it’s hard to generalise - once your smaller child gets out of the terrible twos you might find things easier than she does!

Couldn’t you learn to drive? You seem to be making a big deal of that

clarepetal · 29/07/2020 18:23

When I first read the title of your post it got my hackles up as I only have one child.
I couldn't be more wrong,I think your friend is totally unfair, how dare she judge whether or not you put your kid in nursery?! It's nobody's goddamned business what you do with your kids, I bet your doing a great job, and your friend with her judgey pants can get lost!Flowers

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 29/07/2020 18:23

I have two and personally, I think its WAY easier with two that are close in age. Mainly because they play together. My two boys are very close and will happily play together for hours. I'm an only child and I remember begging my mum every day to play because I had noone else.
As much as I adore my kids, playing is boring as fck so I was SO glad and happy they were able to play together and it made things a lot easier for me!

lanthanum · 29/07/2020 18:24

I only have one. Yes, it's much easier than two, especially as mine has always enjoyed her own company. (The only exception, I think, is that it's quite tough being the only teenager in the house during lockdown - there's no ally when you're fed up of your parents.) Some of us do understand very well that two is a lot harder than one - sometimes that might even be why we stopped at one!

Try not to read everything your friend does as judgy. She might be trying to encourage you and not realising it's not helpful. Perhaps she thinks she's doing you a favour by suggesting meeting at the park, because she reckons two adults and three kids has to be easier than one adult and two kids. (Of course, it doesn't always work out that way, because you have less freedom to quit and go home if the little one has had enough.)

It's been a really difficult time, and I don't envy any of you who have had pre-schoolers to keep entertained over the last few months, especially multiples.

Don't worry too much about "you have to get out more" - do what works for you. Some people would go scatty without getting out of the house for a good amount of time every day, but for others it's not quite so essential. Possibly that's also a difference between having one and having two, and she's just assuming that because she's happier out and about, you will be too.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 29/07/2020 18:26

@SauvignonBlanketyBlank Same!Wine

AlexaShutUp · 29/07/2020 18:36

Sounds like you're struggling and that your friend may have touched raw nerve? Are you more sensitive towards her comments because you deep down you feel like she might have a point? Or are you envious about what looks like an easier lifestyle?

We all have our challenges, OP. There is little point in comparison. I'll sure you're doing the best you can with your two kids and your particular circumstances, and ultimately, that's all that matters.

UmmH · 29/07/2020 18:38

OP, it sounds like you need a bit of a break. Would it help if you asked her (or someone else?) to take your elder child for a playdate without you? That way you could focus on your little one's needs. Just explain to her why it's stressful for you going out with both your children to things which are more age appropriate for the older ones. If she doesn't understand then let it go. My friend with no kids sometimes tells me what to do. I used to be irritated, now I just nod and walk away.

Winter2020 · 29/07/2020 18:41

We have a 10 and 2 year old and 2 year olds can be such hard work. My husband often takes them to the park and meets up with my older lads friends and parents while I sleep after a night shift.

My husband has commented how hard it is recently as the 2 year old just wants to climb the big slide and put stones down it. Constant hassle and tantrums to safeguard him and let others on while of course all the other parents of older kids are much more chilled out. He has started taking him to a different park further away because it doesn't have a big slide.

I met up with my parents recently at a National Trust and I even (horror even at myself) took an ipad to use at an opportune time so that we could sit to eat our picnic. Last time I saw my family and had a meal out (before covid) my husband and I never sat at the table at the same time. One of us was in the soft play section while the other ate then we swapped over. Toddler can't have been in his high chair for more than 10 mins and we were in the pub a couple of hours. It's a hard age. I'd be well up for "eat out to help out but with our toddler I don't think I can face it. Even if it were free to be honest.

I had forgotten how hard little ones are and we are 40 odd now which probably doesn't help.

I'd say whatever gets you through. I remember some people being very disapproving that we used to give our eldest a bag of crisps to keep him busy in his high chair while we finished our Sunday dinner (when he had finished throwing his around). We just wanted to be able to have 10 minutes at the table to eat and have a conversation. He is now a lovely young man who eats well and loves a carvery. It did him no harm.

Ethelfleda · 29/07/2020 18:42

Another one who will say that I can imagine how hard it is with two... hence stopping at one! That’s tough enough Grin

trappedsincesundaymorn · 29/07/2020 18:42

@LordGribeau

I think the one thing parents of only children might not understand is the constant bickering between siblings. I have 3 and it never stops. Someone is also fighting with someone, or complaining that someone is looking out their car window/breathing their air/just generally existing. That is the bit I've found most exhausting in the last 5 months particularly.
One of the reasons I chose to have just the one.
Staplemaple · 29/07/2020 18:44

(I wouldn’t know, I’m one of those lazy part time mothers with one

Me too Grin

It sounds like she's just generally like that and a bit interfering.

Staplemaple · 29/07/2020 18:45

think the one thing parents of only children might not understand is the constant bickering between siblings. I have 3 and it never stops.

I remember from growing up what we were like, extremely happy with our choice to stop at one, partly for that reason.

Allthenumbers · 29/07/2020 18:51

2 small children is way fucking harder than one. You have two small people needed your attention not one.

2 older children is (hopefully) easier than 1. Well that’s what I’m telling myself anyway OP. I’m in the thick of it atm with a toddler and a 3 year old who is likely autistic.

I’d have no time for your friend!

You know I feel frustrated by my friends with two kids but bigger age gaps and no autism. They just don’t get how it isn’t safe for me to do some stuff on my own with the kids. It’s not their fault though, they just don’t know.

Cam2020 · 29/07/2020 18:52

It sounds more like your friend being judgemental is the problem. We all hit times that are harder than others, whether that's with one, two, five or 10 children. We are have different circumstances and have difficulties at times depending on the children and other factors. While we never fully understand other people's difficulties, some sympathy and non judgement would be nice from a friend.

Rosenspants · 29/07/2020 19:06

Actually I feel for you. I had an only one until he was 10 and then two more just over two years apart. (All now adults) I remember feeling very hot and bothered When out and about with the younger two and found it really hard to focus on conversation with other mums if we were, for eg in the park. My eyes were darting everywhere. I’m sorry to say I didn’t opt to spend time with anyone who told me I needed to get out more or was more laid back and thought I needed to be too! I was fine when out with DH and the DC, or more understanding company. You and your friend are just at different stages but that may change in due course and things will settle down.

Goatinthegarden · 29/07/2020 19:07

I don’t know you and I might be waaaay off the mark....but it sounds like you are finding the difficulties and the negatives. Perhaps you are really struggling. But it isn’t your friend’s fault.

It sounds like she is trying to offer solutions. I don’t have kids, but I am one of those people who keeps my struggles quiet, sucks it up and gets on with it. I have some colleagues who find the difficulties in every situation and they are very good at assuming I ‘have it easy’ (as they like to tell me). I often just end up firing solutions at them because I find the negativity brings me down...and now that I’ve read this, I wonder if it annoys them.

Anyway, different people deal with different situations differently. Some people breeze about with 12 kids, some struggle with 1. This isn’t about your friend having it easier than you, this is about you finding it difficult and needing to find some solutions to make your situation more enjoyable.

pandora206 · 29/07/2020 19:08

I think in some ways it's easier with 2+ children, particularly, if like me, you had a PFB. As time went on I ditched a lot of the equipment and clutter, didn't worry about waiting for babies to wake before going out, gave up on the designer clothes, etc. In particular, the youngest (I had three under fives at one point) just fitted in with family life. She went to the cinema, came along to her sister's gymnastic sessions, went swimming as soon as she was able and ate the same foods (albeit in a smoother texture) as everyone else. I also found it a relief not to go to all the baby groups and activities too (as there is a limit to how many conversations you can have about young children's sleeping and eating I could bare).

Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 19:10

It just feels like my individual situation is making this stage harder.

We don't have any family to help.

I don't drive (which I appreciate has made things less flexible)

I live a good 50 minute walk away from the local trampoline park etc. Typically both my kids get travel sick but the eldest is growing out of it. So I can't go out in people's cars as there's a high chance they will puke. Son currently can't have kwells. He vomited on our day out in the car this week and suffered all the way but slept on the way home.

It feels like a bunch of little things and lockdown makes me want to stay home and just stay local.

I'm sure she did mean well. Just I've done balls, picnics And meeting friends for those things. It really isn't enjoyable at the moment.

I'm not particularly envious of her situation as I like having two and I am happy they have eachother. I don't want to necessarily be in her situation with more freedom. I more wish people understood that you don't have to be busy constantly to be coping. We have many days when we are out walking. But we also have many home with the patio doors open and access to the garden. Especially since lockdown.

It's important to keep entertained. But I think she's one to be busy. She never sticks the Tele on for the day or dosses. She keeps going even when she's Ill. Which is great. But I feel like she's thinking I should be doing the same. We were having an equal grumble about life after lock down. Both struggled with our first day out. But she continued to tell me I need to force myself to do these little things. But I have done those things. It's just I've not upped my level to the level she's at yet as she's popping to see her family alot and as Ive already said she pops out to do little bits most days.

Thanks for all the replies. I honestly hope nobody feels I'm putting anyone in a box. It just feels like Ive got to do things to prove I'm having fun. She meant well again but mentioned taking them to the beach. But right now I honestly don't want to travel two hours to have to worry about social distancing, using public toilets, changing nappies Etc. We are still in a pandemic and I think people are perhaps too relaxed now. But perhaps I am just being over sensitive.

I hope by October I'll be back in a routine with DD being at school. Hopefully that in itself will help me feel like I'm doing enough. There's alot of spare time and I can't be bothered filling it all with days out at the minute.

OP posts:
BitOfFun · 29/07/2020 19:13

She sounds like a 'solver' rather than an empathiser- you've taken her comments as critical of you rather than trying to help practically. She's a good friend- this will pass.

Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 19:24

@BitOfFun
Yes I think you are right. I just hope she understands what it's like and that going out more isn't always possible. Only so far I can go in the week.

I am quite introverted anyway and I just love my partner's company. We are a team and I relax better knowing he's there to round them up/take over/push the pushchair/ drive us places. I do love my friend too but we are definitely different in these ways. She sees her dad everyday too where as I see mine sometimes. So perhaps she's just seeing if from her pov of needing to be busy to feel sane.

I feel better anyway. Thanks everyone. I was expecting a full on attack but it's been mixed and fair!

OP posts:
Dinosauratemydaffodils · 29/07/2020 19:25

It varies so much on the children/circumstances I think but your friend sounds annoying.

I've got a 5 year old and a 2 year old and for me, 2 is easier than 1 but that's a lot to do with their individual personalities. Dc1 had speech issues and some behavioural problems, now mostly out grown. Dc2 was an early talker and will happily walk/cuddle up/do what you tell her. So now I can easily take them to the park for example by myself. I suspect if they had come in the opposite order, I'd be finding 2 much harder than 1.

There is nothing wrong with staying in or watching TV either. During a pandemic in particular I'm very much in favour of whatever keeps you sane.