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AIBU to not trust my gut on man I'm dating?

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StartingAgain33 · 22/07/2020 14:56

I've been dating someone for three months. He's thoughtful, intelligent, successful, wants the same things in life as me and has made it clear that he sees a future with me (as much as someone can in such a short space of time). He also has literally built my dream life and is inviting me to be a part of it. But my gut keeps telling me to run away, and my therapist says that one of my key challenges is learning to tune into and act on my gut. I'm obsessing and would love your thoughts.

I worry I'm focusing on the negatives too much. I'm about to be 36, keen to have children and tired of being in a dating pool with guys that either don't have their shit together and so by default aren't ready for kids, or who are emotionally avoidant and not willing to put their cards on the table. This guy is neither of those things, and is up for doing the work of a real relationship. So I worry this is just my commitment issues - and potentially anxiety at having met someone so amazing - coming to the fore. What would you think?

Good things:

  • He is open about wanting to settle down, feeling ready for children (a priority for me), about having done the necessary work to get to this point with a therapist (he went to boarding school from a young age and was very starved of love - so had a very avoidant dating pattern). He had one 18 month relationship which ended last year which he said went a long way to healing some of his commitment issues. However, he never loved her and they broke it off as they both felt (I think it was more that he felt) that what they had wasn't 'enough'. This was after they had moved in together to test the relationship (I kind of think you should know if you love someone before making that move, and wonder how much anxiety she was hiding?)
  • He is very successful and leads a really great life. He's open and generous with this life - introducing me to friends and family, making fun trips happen all the time
  • His future vision is the same as mine to an uncanny degree
  • He's not afraid to challenge me and be honest about things, something which I find difficult (I have an anxious attachment pattern)
  • Seems to have a realistic view of what to expect from relationships
  • He's very good at going for what he wants and making things happen, which I find attractive
  • Has great, very close long-term friendships - shows he is capable of longer term intimacy
  • Is very up for 'doing the work' in a relationship
  • Is kind when I open up to him about difficulties, and makes an effort to be there for me
  • Is very consistent with communication, very much leading on this aspect of our relationship

Bad things:

  • He has a very avoidant past (41 years old, has had one relationship in the past 20 or so years and many flings), and I think may have difficulty in general connecting to people. Even though I know this, I keep blame myself for what I feel is a lack of connection in our interactions (I'm not sure he feels this too, although I'm thinking about asking him as it's driving me crazy - like an elephant in the room)
  • I just have a terrible gut feeling a lot of the time. When I'm with him, there's a sort of stilted atmosphere (I feel) and I don't feel able to relax. We hardly laugh. He's quiet quite a lot. He's been honest that he has abandonment issues and that he is hypervigilant to signs of rejection, which makes him quiet, so I've tried to have patience with it but I also feel hypervigilant around him. I've tried to spend lots of time with him to get over this and it's still there most of the time
  • Talks about relationships as 'work' a lot - feels a little joyless
  • Despite talking quite a lot about money / having lots of investments and also enough savings to never have to work again, he has let me somehow do all of the grocery shopping for every visit we've had. Majority of these have been me going to his city, which is nicer to hang out in as it's close to the countryside, so I'm spending money on train tickets AND about £80 at least every single time. This is really stacking up. In comparison, he knows that at 35 I'm still saving for a housing deposit and am going through an expensive egg freezing process. He is extremely frugal in general. The one time he paid of out food on a visit (because I lost my bank card) he asked me to settle up with him afterwards. He probably doesn't realise how much I've spent, as I've not communicated this and frankly find it awkward and quite rude that he wouldn't enquire himself or just say 'I'll pay for groceries next time'. Of all the things, strangely, this one makes me most angry and uncomfortable. I guess because we're from very different social classes and I would never want to be seen as a gold digger (he knows this, we've spoken about the fact that I've always dated people from a 'higher' class than me and that I've always gone at least halves or paid for more because I don't want to be seen as with them for their money)
  • I find our conversation often turns to serious subjects - trauma, how messed up someone is, work stuff - and there is little lightness. He is a thoughtful and quite serious character, I think, but I also worry this is just a chemistry thing and he'd be better with someone else (which then makes me want to fix it)
  • Because he's very open about wanting to settle down, it can sometimes make me feel like he is being spurred by that rather than wanting to be with ME. This could be my paranoia. But he doesn't often express how he actually feels about me, or why. He expresses his affection, I guess, through wanting to spend lots of time together, but even this feels a little intense / out of kilter with our level of emotional intimacy. Lockdown and living in different cities doesn't help - our dates are several days long, which I think I find a bit much
  • He's commented a few times about how I have a higher sex drive than him / enjoy it more. This makes me feel self conscious about asking for sex. When I did the one time, last week, he was too tired. We didn't have enough physical closeness in my four day visit for me to feel particularly cared for or happy. In general I find him just quite distant. Sex feels a little transactional - like he'll do the minimum to make me orgasm, then he's like 'job done' and then gets his and it's over. There isn't enough kissing or general sensuality for me. I don't feel very connected with him
  • I said I was uncomfy meeting his parents on our third ever date (it was a week long, and we'd been talking on zoom for a month before meeting, plus we actually know eachother from 13 years ago in a work context, but still). He said that was fine and they weren't coming, then the day before told me they actually were and I could 'hide in the house as they'd be in the garden and he'd just say I had lots of work to do' if I wanted. I felt intensely uncomfy with this setup so just met them anyway, but felt very awkward. He hadn't seen them all lockdown, and apparently it was just circumstantial that they visited that day, but I felt a little blindsided. I also met his sister and niece on the day, had been living with his other sister for a week and had spent the day with his best friends that week also. It all felt a little much

So - am I looking a gifthorse in the mouth? My anxiety levels are through the roof on this. For some reason I feel like I need to end it NOW even though I know there's loads of great things going for this guy. Any idea what might be going on?

OP posts:
TeaAndHobnob · 22/07/2020 15:16

You feel awkward with him, you don't laugh together and he's tight with money.

Why do you want a relationship with this person?

pasturesgreen · 22/07/2020 15:17

Realistically, you don't know him at all well. Anyone can be kind when I open up to him about difficulties, and makes an effort to be there for me when you've seen them for just three months (and for at least part of those three months we were in lockdown).

There seem to be a lot of red flags here (he's distant, happily lets you spend above your means, has a troubled past, makes you feeling uneasy...). You have your instincts for a reason, trust what they're trying to tell you!

Ohtherewearethen · 22/07/2020 15:17

Are you sure he is who he says he is? He's got con artist written all over him - loads of money/investments yet you somehow end up paying for everything. He's morphing himself into exactly what you want him to be by picking up on subtle clues. Be very wary or walk away.

LimitIsUp · 22/07/2020 15:17

This really doesn't sound right - it's no basis for a satisfying long term relationship

dayswithaY · 22/07/2020 15:19

No, he's not right for you. What jumped out at me was the "stilted atmosphere" and not being able to relax. That would be a deal breaker for me. Also you are feeling on edge for a reason - staying hyper vigilant for when danger strikes, that is real and you should never ignore it.

Chickychoccyegg · 22/07/2020 15:21

Oh op, this sounds a bit sad, trust your gut, there's no connection, he's extremely tight , he doesn't make you laugh, those things are all so important for long term relationships, I'd dump him and move on, better to be single than with the wrong person.

BobbinThreadbare123 · 22/07/2020 15:21

OP, read all that back and tell me he doesn't sound horrible...

cheezy · 22/07/2020 15:22

Ooh it sounds like he may have boarding school syndrome. Emotionally detached, avoidant etc. If so it’s possible to work through this but you both have to be willing and it’s HARD work.

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/07/2020 15:22

You've not got a sexual connection, you've not got the same sense of humour and you've not got the same outlook on money.

Three months in all you should be doing is laughing, shagging and being a bit frivolous when dating.

Your gut is right.

Noidea2114 · 22/07/2020 15:22

Run as fast as you can. On any date there should be a spark, be able to relax and have a laugh.

Itsjustabitofbanter · 22/07/2020 15:22

You’re not comfortable with him, you’re obviously anxious, over analysing everything and generally sound really unhappy. You don’t even laugh together and the sex is already becoming awkward.
As for him, he sounds withdrawn, depressed, joyless. The money thing for me would be an absolute dealbreaker on his own. The way he does things points to him being an extremely selfish person. It doesn’t sound like he cares for you at all.
Do you really want marriage and babies with someone like this? I can see you having a miserable future with this man if you stay with him

Itsjustabitofbanter · 22/07/2020 15:23

Bloody hell ive only just read you’ve only been together 3 months!? Run for the fucking hills op and don’t look back!

nowayhose · 22/07/2020 15:25

RED FLAGS all over ! Sad

He's emotionally shut down
He's no clue/ doesn't care how you feel about things
He's totally mechanical physically ie. do 1,2 and 3 = job done !
He's financially selfish (which will become abusive when you need to rely on him i.e you have a baby)
He's NEVER lighthearted/ fun
You always feel uncomfortable/ pressured
You have 'a terrible feeling' all the time ???? WTF ????
He's never, at 41, had a long relationship (18 mths is NOT long !)
Heaps of 'flings' = only bad news.
Your own instincts are telling you RUN !!!!!!!

I'm really not sure WHAT you see in him at all Sad

Please listen to your gut instincts !

Takingontheworld · 22/07/2020 15:25

You seem to be finding excuses to stay when you are clearly not compatible....
Flash forward: you have transactional sex to get pregnant, end up poor on maternity leave while he continues to squirrel away and force an unnecessary frugal life on you. You feel even less loved as his tiredness increases from parenthood and you get even less affectionat and sex. There is no laughter and lightness in your household. Child grows up with emotionally avoidant dad.....

HaggisBurger · 22/07/2020 15:26

Run. Your gut sounds 100% correct on this one. This is the fun, easy part and it’s neither fun, nor easy. Good luck 😊

beautifulxdisasters · 22/07/2020 15:26

As someone else said, you don't even sound like you like him.

You really just sound like you want to like him but don't. You can't spend your life with someone like that.

Blanca87 · 22/07/2020 15:27

Anxious attachment style and avoidant attachment style is a recipe for relationship disaster. Add the tight arse element into the mix and you have a cataclysmic situation, that you will most like pay the price for.

Dustyroad63 · 22/07/2020 15:28

I can't imagine being in a relationship like this.
No laughter, differing sex drives and his meanness with money.
I'd knock it on the head and find someone who makes you laugh and you feel easy with.
It doesn't sound like he's the one for you.

WB205020 · 22/07/2020 15:31

The money issues would be enough for most. If you pay for a lot and 1 time he does he asks you to settle up you will forever be having to justify spending money. Its just not work it to be honest!

KatherineJaneway · 22/07/2020 15:32

He is extremely frugal in general.

That would be a relationship ender for me. Imagine having to battle for every toy or piece of children's clothing to be bought.

ItsSpittingEverybodyIn · 22/07/2020 15:32

Nah, he sounds crap.

MissConductUS · 22/07/2020 15:33

This sounds like something a matchmaker would set up - he's "a good catch" in some ways, but if there's no joy and he doesn't light you up you should end it. It won't last.

Sorry. Flowers

Merryoldgoat · 22/07/2020 15:36

You’re not comfortable around him, he’s tight, and you don’t laugh.

There’s not happy future here.

Climbingallthetrees · 22/07/2020 15:37

Why would you even consider staying with him? You have no connection, it sounds like you don’t even particularly like him. You’re attracted more to his lifestyle than you are to him and he’s not going to be sharing his lifestyle, he’s already shown he’s mean.

CuppaZa · 22/07/2020 15:38

You sound very emotionally intelligent @StartingAgain33. Far more emotionally intelligent than him, which is already causing issues.

Your gut is working perfectly, please listen to it. He is not listening to you, you are not matched well in the bedroom and he is mean. The biggest tell sign of all is that you are uncomfortable.

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