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to think not everyone has to like my son, but my DP should try?

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Yorkshiremummyof1 · 12/07/2020 03:20

I’m after advice re step parenting and relationships between. DC and SP

Myself, DP, DS9 live in a rented house. DP and I have been together for a year and he previously got on well with my son.

The situation as it currently is, is that he doesn’t enjoy spending time with DS and finds him irritating. I understand this is for a few reasons.

DS watches YouTube too much and it’s actually annoying hearing him talk to the TV.

When he’s allowed to play on the XBOX he stands far too close and talks to it.

He can have an attitude, not a naughty one just sassy and know it all.

He has the worst selective hearing, he doesn’t acknowledge me when I ask him to do something. He doesn’t say okay, he has about a 5 second pause before he starts to do it so I often get irritated as I think he’s ignoring me, he’s not he’s just processing it. But it winds me and DP up

DS doesn’t talk to us about anything interesting or something that DP enjoys, its mind numbing boring shit like minecraft or pokemon. It’s so hard to feign interest and it’s pretty obvious. I am being blunt, I just think it’s easier that sugarcoating it.

So these things annoy my DP and I think he has let them get to the point where he almost doesn’t like my son. I’ve explained to him that’s kinda a dealbreaker and we have discussed how lockdown might have affected it and how we could possibly start over. We’ve discussed how the same things wind me up, but he’s my child - I love him and I deal with the fact that I hate minecraft because DS loves it. Whereas DP has to want to choose this relationship if that makes sense?

The reason this is an issue is that we are considering moving to DPs house. He owns a lovely cottage in the country however it is smaller than my house, we would have less space and I think he is concerned about DS clicking that DP doesn’t enjoy spending time with him. He is upset that he feels this way and he doesn’t want DS to pick up on it. When DS has some problems with bullies, DP was upset for him but that emotional connection appears to have dimmed a bit, I pointed out they haven’t had a cuddle in a while and DP was visibly upset.

My counter to all this was.

YouTube is a pile of shit but instead of complaining he watches too much we should give him a set day he can watch it and we should encourage other things he can watch. Ideally he wouldn’t watch too much TV but admittedly for the two hours between end of school and me finishing work, I need him to be occupied. But don’t complain about HIS choice of TV when you as the adult have the power to change that.

XBOX - nothing I say will keep him from getting so close to the TV. Deal with it

Attitude - so I actually think that DS is trying to connect with DP. When he’s sassy to me at the dinner table I think he’s got his guard up. He’s totally different with just me, but I’m his mum and I love him unconditionally. The way he is round DP is similar to how I’ve seen him at school where he’s still settling in. I don’t know how to “fix” this

Selective hearing, I think it’s an age thing and perhaps I could change how I request DS to do something.

Talking to DP about boring things. This is so bloody obvious. He’s talking to DP about stuff that DS knows about because he’s trying to connect!! Is asked DP if he offered a topic to talk about and he blanked. So...do things with DS that DP enjoys and maybe....you’ll find common ground.

The problem is that DP has expected the relationship to magically grow with no effort. I understand why he’s thought this as his only experience with kids has been his god children and he has a really good relationship. Meeting a child aged 8 and being essentially forced to have a relationship is different.

I’d like some advice on how we can both work on fostering a healthy relationship as a trio. I knows my parental failings. Is it just a case of doing some activities with DS that DP likes? How do I navigate the sassy attitude where I think DS defences are up? I worry that the damage is done and DP will never “like” DS and even if he tried to hide it children are intuitive and so as a mother I’d have to end the relationship as DS comes first.

We’ve put moving to DPs on hold until we’re at A place that we think they have a relationship that could work. I don’t want to put DS through the mill, I need to protect him from harm because that’s my job and I love him to the moon and back.

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Callardandbowser · 12/07/2020 13:19

I wish people would rtmft! 🤦🏼‍♀️

WhereYouLeftIt · 12/07/2020 13:20

"Myself, DP, DS9 live in a rented house. DP and I have been together for a year"

That's as far as I got before the first red flag. Too soon. Way too soon to be moving him in. It's not working, move him back out. Please prioritise your son over a man. Please.

Emeraldshamrock · 12/07/2020 13:22

I'm glad you have lots of interaction with DS. You also have very high expectations for a 9 year old.
All DC are annoying at times but to actively dislike a DC you moved in with is awful.
Your partner is the grown up.
I'd hate my DC to feel like an annoyance in their home by a blow in.

CottonSock · 12/07/2020 13:31

I hope it works out for you.. must be exhausting micro managing the behaviours and the relationship. You will probably feel a weight off your shoulders.. then you will know it's the right decision.

Emeraldshamrock · 12/07/2020 13:31

So he’s sleeping alot, your sex life is pants and he snappy at everyone?

OP are you sure this man is a good one. I've read all your posts.
It is very early days living together and you're already excusing his moods.
He wants to exclude your DS too.
After your awful ex are you sure your judgement isn't off.
Life is shit for everyone at the moment, you should be in the honeymoon phase.
You mentioned cuddling on the sofa isn't it to soon for that bond?
There are many red flags sorry.

queenMab99 · 12/07/2020 13:36

My youngest son was 14 when I met my second husband, and 16 when we married, we still didn't live together full time, for a while, partly due to husband's work, but mainly because I felt it was better to let a relationship develop slowly between my son and my husband, if they hadn't 'got on' we would have left it until he went to university.
Actually each having our own home was ideal! The perfect way to live!

Emeraldshamrock · 12/07/2020 13:43

You're doing the right thing.
It doesn't have to be the end of the relationship.
It might be nice to reverse things start from scratch go on a date without the stress of micro managing the trio.
You've been through a lot. Your DP doesn't hate your DS or vice versa but it takes time with small steps.

Graphista · 12/07/2020 14:13

he’s moving out this afternoon back to his house

I think that's for the best

The post you quote at 0954 is spot on

do NOT move into DP's home. If it all goes wrong, you'd have nowhere to go. couldn't agree with this more

Slow things RIGHT down, be watchful and get loads more therapy

I was abused as a kid, I'm nearing 50
and I'm STILL processing that it takes many years to process and work through Such trauma

Have you considered therapy for Ds too?

As po said you may think he was unaffected by the abuse you suffered and the resulting divorce but it's very unlikely

Changednamesorry · 12/07/2020 14:20

You should dump the boyfriend and put your son first. Obviously.

How you can love someone who "doesn't like your son" is beyond me

If your child spends too much time on a screen maybe consider getting rid of the boyfriend who is making him uncomfortable in his own home.

Ffs.

PlumForDinner · 12/07/2020 14:32

I know the thread has moved on now and you seem to have come to a conclusion however can I please just point out that it's absolutely FINE for you to dislike or find irritating things that your child does, ignore those questioning whether you even like your child.

I HATE the constant Minecraft talk, the shouting at the TV when playing Xbox, the fact that they will either play games or watch them on YouTube (!?). It drives me bonkers, and it is irritating. It does not for a second mean I don't like them or love them.

Children can be annoying, in fact they are for the majority of the time I've found. You're allowed to admit it and still love your son.

I also think lockdown can have a huge affect on things like this and people's irritability. I have a very good relationship with my step children but I can't flipping wait for them to go back to school now. Having them in the house all day every day whilst all this is going on, whilst they are grumpy because they want to see their friends, and bored, is not my idea of a fun time, whether they are my kids or someone else's.

MarioPuzo · 12/07/2020 15:06

It's good that your DP is moving out. The relationship (dislikes your son, no sex, mean to your dog) was already terrible.

Have you considered doing the Freedom Program? You moved this random guy in after a few months, gave him your spare bedroom and tolerated his dislike for your son. It shows that your boundaries for behaviour in a relationship are skewed. Understandable after your previous abusive relationship, but until you fix the boundaries you won't be able to recognise a healthy relationship.

huuskymam · 12/07/2020 15:15

Your son sounds like a typical 9 year old. My 10 year old is the same with the attitude, YouTube, Xbox, constant chatting about dinosaurs and pokemon.

Could they take up an activity that they both like, hiking swimming cycling etc. It would help both with bonding.

My son loves helping dh with DIY jobs and recently showed an interest in going fishing with him.

LadyPrigsbottom · 12/07/2020 15:25

Joining the thread v late! But I think him moving out is a good thing.

I also agree with the pp, who suggested that maybe your horrific experience with your horrible ex might mean you need to work on yourself before you do anything else with new men. Sorry if that sounds like a cliche! But it is true I think.

Hope it all works out for you and your DS. The bf, meh, maybe he'll be happier too, but that really isn't your priority Flowers.

Sidalee7 · 12/07/2020 16:20

You need your DP to move out before you do any more emotional damage to your son.

Imagine it was you, having an adult who didn’t like you in your home, sleeping with your mum?

He has a cottage in the country...perfect, he can move there alone then. I feel so sorry for your son.

Yorkshiremummyof1 · 12/07/2020 18:06

@MarioPuzo

It's good that your DP is moving out. The relationship (dislikes your son, no sex, mean to your dog) was already terrible.

Have you considered doing the Freedom Program? You moved this random guy in after a few months, gave him your spare bedroom and tolerated his dislike for your son. It shows that your boundaries for behaviour in a relationship are skewed. Understandable after your previous abusive relationship, but until you fix the boundaries you won't be able to recognise a healthy relationship.

The freedom programme was mentioned a few pages back so once I’ve fed the sprog and we’ve read a book I’m going to check it out from the safety of my large king size one person bed
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Yorkshiremummyof1 · 12/07/2020 18:08

@huuskymam

Your son sounds like a typical 9 year old. My 10 year old is the same with the attitude, YouTube, Xbox, constant chatting about dinosaurs and pokemon.

Could they take up an activity that they both like, hiking swimming cycling etc. It would help both with bonding.

My son loves helping dh with DIY jobs and recently showed an interest in going fishing with him.

Before DP left he started making a list of things he could do with DS and I’m going to show DS tonight and he’s going to make his own list. DS is going to mums so we’re having a nice three week break from everyone. DS and dog are going to mums, I’m taking some time out for myself and maybe DP and I can go on a “date” and see how we feel
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Yorkshiremummyof1 · 12/07/2020 18:09

Oh and there IS an activity they want to do together. They were going to start visiting the climbing wall so that’s top of the list

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PeppaPigMakesMeGrrrrr · 12/07/2020 18:15

I knew my step dad didn't like me. Nothing awful but he just didn't know how to tolerate my quite normal, childlike behaviour. I was aware he found me irritating and an annoyance. I left home age 16. It ruined my relationship with my mum. Stand up for your son and find someone who doesn't have to try to learn to like him. Or you will loose him.

piscean10 · 12/07/2020 18:19

Why are you getting your son to make a list? And your dp for that matter? You sound very desperate trying to force this relationship between them. Your partner has revealed his dislike- what mother tolerates that. You are placing too much on your son expecting him to compromise with your DP.

okiedokieme · 12/07/2020 18:20

I feel that the problem is more about he doesn't agree with your parenting boundaries - too much YouTube, standing close to the tv, not particularly polite etc. From what you have written I would be annoyed too but it is not your son at fault, he's a kid, he only knows how to behave from you. Some people may not mind these things but they were not allowed in my house (well YouTube wasn't a "thing" but tv etc was controlled

Thurmanmurman · 12/07/2020 18:22

Don't put a bloke before your children. Ever.

Giganticshark · 12/07/2020 19:12

Don't give up your home. Ditch the 'darling partner'. I couldn't even get to the bottom of your first post. It sounds awful for your son, you both deserve better

Giganticshark · 12/07/2020 19:13

And for the love of all that is holy, DO NOT GET PREGNANT

Yorkshiremummyof1 · 12/07/2020 19:40

@piscean10

Why are you getting your son to make a list? And your dp for that matter? You sound very desperate trying to force this relationship between them. Your partner has revealed his dislike- what mother tolerates that. You are placing too much on your son expecting him to compromise with your DP.
My DP has moved out, he would like to start again with DS. He suggested making the list and did it off his own back.

I have already said we are taking a step back and seeing how it goes. I am not forcing anything as it wasn’t my idea.

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DeeCeeCherry · 12/07/2020 19:44

You're overthinking and 9-year old boys' behaviour, for the sake of a man. What 9 year old isn't annoying in some way? He's a child. What level of 'perfection' do you want your son to achieve in order to please this man? Whatever it is it's not going to happen, and quite rightly so. Your son isn't there to change himself to suit an adult - that's a shit life lesson.

Get rid of your silly boyfriend and parent your son.