to wonder how people with Michael Jackson tattoos feel now?

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Was just watching an episode of tattoo fixers and there's a girl on there who had a huge MJ memorial tat on her back. The guy tattooing her also had a MJ tattoo. I also work with someone who has MJ tattooed on their shoulder.

I mean, would people feel ok with having had Rolf Harris or similar tattooed on them?

What are happening to these tattoos? Do you think a lot of people have had them removed?

Curious to know what people think about this...

A finding of not guilty means that the jury didn't find that the prosecutor met the burden of proof

I know you're not really referring to me but this is what I mean - not sure if I wrote anywhere that he was found innocent or not guilty but either way, I'd mean this if I did or when I asked for the proof of his guilt.

They must feel sick to their stomach walking round with a paedo’s name emblazoned on their body. Sickens me if I hear him played on the radio. I have to turn off.

They knew Jackson was a nonce when they got their tattoos, so they are obviously fine with it. Everyone knew. His public relationships with children back in the 80s were always creepy and wrong and everybody knew it, but he was untouchable. All that stuff about building playgrounds at NeverLand to compensate for his own lost childhood was bullshit.

Michael Jackson was a clever, manipulative paedophile who abused children and groomed the world.

@Flutterpieandpinkieshy

I'm not a huge MJ fan. But I've researched well.

Well the latter clearly isn’t true. Perhaps the the former isn’t either.

@Andthewinnerislucky

Me too, the Earth is flat. I read it online. And those moon landings, blimey o'riley , some people are easily fooled. Google it, you'll see what I mean. The truth is out there on line

And where did you get your own truth that he's guilty? Offline? Your own personal real life investigation? I'm assuming your post is sarcasm which means you believe think know he's guilty.

I don't think I mentioned him in my post. Just checking. No, I didn't . I was referring to the quoted posters ability to research.

Mind you, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck but has a really good lawyer who are we to say it's a duck.

This is an excellent site with a lot of facts and evidence: www.mjfacts.com/

There is also a Facebook group, www.facebook.com/waderobsonsupporters/ done by the same people who do the above website, and it has videos and podcast interviews with a FBI agent who was involved, and a lot of information and facts.

Awkward. That’s how I’d feel. And saving up for laser treatment.

My friends has a Culture Club tattoo. I don't know any Michael Jackson fans who have tattoos.

I've yet to be presented with any evidence that MJ was actually a nonce. It's just 'feelings' and 'he said she said'.

SomethingDebonair

I've yet to be presented with any evidence that MJ was actually a nonce. It's just 'feelings' and 'he said she said'.

Who are you that anyone would ‘present’ you with evidence?

Hours of testimony from his victims which you clearly haven’t bothered to watch.

[quote Timekeeper1]@Flutterpieandpinkieshy So many things wrong here, and you said you 'researched well'. Clearly not.

He was not 'proven innocent'. There is no such thing in Jurisprudence.
The jury felt there wasn't enough evidence to convict, that's all. It does not mean he was proven innocent. Not at all.

The drawing of the penis matched. Even FBI and police said this. Not sure why there are some that still are under the misunderstanding that it didn't. There is even a YouTube clip (I hesitate to use YT as proof, unless it is of an actual recorded interview or news item) where his lawyers with Meserau said they wanted to settle out of court when they learned the drawing MATCHED.

Both Robson and Safechuck have good businesses, both are millionaires. Safechuck runs a computer software company in LA. And no, their stories are not contradictory at all. That is another myth.

I suggest you actually do some research.[/quote]
The drawing of the penis did not match, the boy said he was circumcised when he wasn't.

@Toffiffeee89

Wasn’t he found not guilty ?

Yes but that really doesn't mean he wasn't guilty

@TatianaBis

SomethingDebonair

I've yet to be presented with any evidence that MJ was actually a nonce. It's just 'feelings' and 'he said she said'.

Who are you that anyone would ‘present’ you with evidence?

Hours of testimony from his victims which you clearly haven’t bothered to watch.

I've watched Finding Neverland, is there something else I should watch? If people are going to claim such an awful thing then there should really be evidence behind it, it's not about me being 'someone'.

There are millions of people walking round with their partners names etc tattooed on them not knowing they are a paedophile etc

@Flutterpieandpinkieshy The markings on the underside of the penis matched. Sometimes when a penis is erect (only way the boy would have seen the markings, unless Jackson lifted his penis up to show the boy), the foreskin can stretch to the full length and it can look circumcised. Hence what it looked like to the boy.

There was a website with lots of information on each “best” friend that jacko picked up. Terry George was on it before he went to the papers. I can’t remember what it was.

This shows his lawyers talking, and when they heard the drawing matched, they wanted to settle out of court.

www.mjfacts.com/the_telltale_splotch/#more-457

Possibly not as bad as people with Rolph Harris tattoos.

@Timekeeper1

This shows his lawyers talking, and when they heard the drawing matched, they wanted to settle out of court.

Thank you!

Just because he didn't get charged in court, that doesn't make him innocent. He was a global superstar, adored by millions. Watch how people jump to his defence, even now, because they idolise him. We've seen with the Me Too movement how hard it is for victims to be heard when speaking out against people in power.

There's so much evidence against him. He groomed and hung around with young boys. He had them in his bed and took them away from their parents. That's not normal. If a school teacher or random old man in the village wanted to do that, people would freak out.

It's horrifying that some people will defend a sex offender and literally victim-blame children...

I've watched Finding Neverland, is there something else I should watch? If people are going to claim such an awful thing then there should really be evidence behind it

Their testimony is their evidence. What evidence would convince you at this point?

There is plenty of other evidence but the testimony of the men is the most compelling.

I don't really care either way, and I'm not an MJ fan, but, surely anyone can see a TV interview and a load of websites/videos that could show literally anything the producer wanted them to show, are no substitute for a criminal trial?

I don't know if he's guilty or not, accept it looks like he may be, but as he's American I don't think we'll ever know, hardly known for justice are they where money is involved. If he was British he'd have been tried posthumously.

@Flutterpieandpinkieshy As recounted by a law enforcement officer:

*While I was on Mr. Jackson's left side, Dr. Strick asked Mr. Jackson to lift his penis. Mr. Jackson questioned why he had to do that, but he did comply with the request. When Mr. Jackson complied with Dr. Strick's request to lift his penis, I observed a dark spot on the lower left side of Mr. Jackson's penis.

It's unclear whether Sergeant Spiegel actually had time to snap a photograph of the mark he saw. But law enforcement sources, as well as Chandler family sources, said that the dark patch on Jackson's genitals was found exactly where young Jordan Chandler said they could find such a mark. It's important to note that the dark spot was only visible when the penis was lifted -- as during sexual arousal.*