To report this person to their employer for hate speech?

[NickMyLipple]

I've attached a screenshot - I am not friends with this person. She does however display her work on social media and she is in her uniform with her lanyard on display in her profile picture and in other photos which are accessible to the public.

It's NHS Values Week and I feel very strongly that if you're going to publically display your workplace you need to be responsible in not making such racist and hateful comments.

I called her out on it and the post has now been deleted.

AIBU to call the HR department and complain, or should I leave it and hope that she thinks carefully before she posts in future?

JustAnotherPoster00

I haven't actually posted whether I think the employee should be reported to her employer or not (I would have to see the actual facebook post/tweet myself) - I did post to say that I didn't condone her racist comment.

Are we going with the usual right wing trope of 'white people experience racism'

How do we know that the nurse/healthcare worker described in the op is white?

I don't think it's cancel culture to report someone in a position of trust for racism. It's fine if you disagree, but I would report that to an employer and wouldn't apologise.

It's everyone's right to hold shitty beliefs. It's everyone's right to parade those beliefs about on social media. But having the right doesn't absolve you of the responsibility to manage your own words and actions appropriately and there has to be a line.

Don't know what she said was wrong actually. Not shutting down factory during an epidemic will cause the virus to spread more and if it's a foreign company then yes they can leave the UK if they refuse to follow our rules.

So wait.....because there's hiphop dont report a racist to her employer

I only mentioned hip-hop because you told me to look at the delivery driver thread - you moved on to the theme of inappropriate language towards women.

People in positions of power over other people cannot be racist without it being potentially dangerous. Police, medics, social workers, judiciary etc have to held to higher account in this respect. This is nothing new.

I looked at her twitter account at the time - earlier in June (a week, 10 days before) she tweeted; "White Lives Don't Matter" and 'I can't be bothered to explain what I mean' - or something similar.

Can you link to a contemporary news article or show a screenshot? You must understand that I can’t take your recollection on trust because you have already selectively misquoted her other tweet to make it sound more sensationalist and problematic than it was.

@nicky7654

Don't know what she said was wrong actually. Not shutting down factory during an epidemic will cause the virus to spread more and if it's a foreign company then yes they can leave the UK if they refuse to follow our rules.

Well doesnt that say a lot about you and I'm sure youre very proud

You are Nigel Farage and I claim my £5

you have already selectively misquoted her other tweet to make it sound more sensationalist and problematic than it was.

Where have I done that?

I’m a lawyer specialising in professional discipline and can tell those that think this is nothing to do with her employment are quite wrong. Some professions have their code of conduct actually written into law. This isn’t about having an opinion. It’s about expressing views that are entirely incompatible with the position you hold and the power you can wield, especially over vulnerable people.

Her tweets have been deleted and her twitter account is not available to everyone. I've found a screenshot of one tweet here;

swarajyamag.com/insta/cambridge-professor-priyamvada-gopal-tweets-white-lives-dont-matter-follows-it-up-with-abolish-brahmins-and-upper-castes

I have to go out now in any case.

That's interesting, Notheboreworms, and exactly how it should be.

Couldn't agree more

For example, the police professional standards of behaviour are enshrined in law and include reporting improper conduct. How are we to tackle structural discrimination if professionals(and others) don't report things like this?

@Nottheboreworms

A lot of people seem to forget these days that they sign contacts stating that even outside of work, you represent the company. If you're caught doing anything against the policies of the company, you'll be disciplined. A lot of companies do this now, I guess no one is reading the contracts. I've yet to have a job where they haven't stated that. Even out of uniform, it still counts. That's why they state, repeatedly, to be careful about what you put on social media. They aren't saying it for a laugh, you can be disciplined for bad behaviour.

What the NHS trust does is up to them. She may not even get fired, just warned. But she should be at least warned, and given training on why how she thinks is wrong. This is why I believe racism will never end, too many people trying to cover it up. So many people on this thread have shown that, just want to cover it up and ignore it. It's no better than those making the comments.

Here is one of her tweets and clavinona link takes you straight to it.

As a white women I find her view racist towards whites people. If fact I don’t like her attitude at all from that article but I don’t know the women personally so can’t make an informed decision on how she conducts herself at work.

However now people see what kind of person she is. If we stop free speech people will hide behind false facades. I’d bet this women is receiving death threats and all that nonsense.

@Clavinova where you said her original add-on (to white lives don't matte).

It wasn’t an add-on. It was a single tweet. Suggesting otherwise is a complete misrepresentation of what she said.

@Evelefteden that is the tweet I have seen and have been discussing. @Clavinova and other posters have suggested there was an earlier tweet, sent some time prior to that one, which just stated ‘white lives don’t matter’, and that is the tweet I want evidence of.

As it happens she has faced racist and misogynistic death threats, which I think you would characterise as more serious than ‘nonsense’ if you were the recipient of them.

I am a white woman and I can very clearly understand that the sentiment behind that tweet is nor racist. I’m glad she has been promoted. Cambridge University has a long way to go before it is anything like a place of genuine tolerance and racial equality, but her promotion to professor was, at least, a positive step.

@Clavinova you have linked to the tweet I was already discussing. What I want evidence of is your assertion that she sent an earlier tweet which only said ‘white lives don’t matter’. I appreciate you may not be able to provide proof; but equally I’m sure you appreciate that I won’t take your word for it existing when you aren’t an unbiased source and are trying to make a point against this woman.

[quote CluelessBaker]@Clavinova you have linked to the tweet I was already discussing. What I want evidence of is your assertion that she sent an earlier tweet which only said ‘white lives don’t matter’. I appreciate you may not be able to provide proof; but equally I’m sure you appreciate that I won’t take your word for it existing when you aren’t an unbiased source and are trying to make a point against this woman.[/quote]
Err Clueless the tweet says ‘I’ll say it again. White lives don’t matter’ which obviously gives the impression that’s she’s already said it. It’s the ‘I’ll say it again’ she’s already said it once

I am a white woman and I can very clearly understand that the sentiment behind that tweet is nor racist. I’m glad she has been promoted. Cambridge University has a long way to go before it is anything like a place of genuine tolerance and racial equality, but her promotion to professor was, at least, a positive step

Everybody has different views on it. That’s why it’s a democratic society.

Also universities are a law unto themselves. They are no platforming and banning women’s rights speakers. They encourage women to not report sexual assaults. Also they were allowing, untill the law stepped in to let well known Islamic extremists with terrorists connects to speak to crowded auditoriums with women segregated from men. I hardly call that progressive - do you?

Err Clueless the tweet says ‘I’ll say it again. White lives don’t matter’ which obviously gives the impression that’s she’s already said it. It’s the ‘I’ll say it again’ she’s already said it once

How do you know she isn’t saying ‘I’ll say it again’ in respect of the whole tweet, not just the ‘white lives matter’ bit? That would be my assumption.

I don’t think it’s reasonable to accuse a woman of racism on the basis of a tweet which you’ve only inferred the existence of and can’t provide any evidence of.

I hardly call that progressive - do you?

What part of ‘Cambridge University has a long way to go before it is anything like a place of genuine tolerance and racial equality’ made you think I was calling it progressive...?

Why do self-identified "progressives" get to presume that the "progress" they seek to impose is moral?

You don't mind insulting and sometimes 'rape culture' lyrics aimed at black women?

But you suggest reporting one racist post is akin to banning all hip-hop music. By that token, the OP should be arguing to ban social media in general because that’s medium used by the racist poster.

There’s nothing to stop you or anyone else taking issue with a sexist, racist or in some other way demeaning song. But why does an individual song mean scrapping the genre?

@StillCoughingandLaughing

You don't mind insulting and sometimes 'rape culture' lyrics aimed at black women?

But you suggest reporting one racist post is akin to banning all hip-hop music. By that token, the OP should be arguing to ban social media in general because that’s medium used by the racist poster.

There’s nothing to stop you or anyone else taking issue with a sexist, racist or in some other way demeaning song. But why does an individual song mean scrapping the genre?

Lol @ "an individual song" hip hop song being sexist.

Are we talking about systemic bias problems here or pretending they don't exist?