To think that people who 'want to switch off' from BLM are the ones who have chips on their shoulders?

[Moomin8]

I use a cloth nappy group on FB. A few days ago someone accidentally (I think, I didn't see it) made an offensive remark.

The next day one of the admins, very sensibly set up a thread for people to post educational resources relating to the BLM movement which encourage us all to think about how we can be a part of the solution rather than the problem. The issue of course, is that a lot of people don't even know that they are contributing to systemic racism.

That was fine until someone posted a comment saying this wasn't nappy related and they just wanted a space for nappies etc. After that it turned into a bit of a bun fight and got quite nasty.

There were only a few people who seemed to have this view but it left me wondering, why would someone complain about something positive that we could all learn from. Cloth nappy communities include people from BAME backgrounds (obviously) and why would you not want to take action against something that could hurt other people?

@Cramitmaam

Can someone explain to me with regards to BLM, what is the actual problem they want to address?

They want to bring an end to capitalism.

Ah I see, that old chestnut! Well Stalin had a good crack at that didnt he? If we're being fair to him lets say he managed to kill about 20 million in the process.

How many million deaths are BLM aiming for?

Theres a reason some places want to see it labelled a terrorist org.

Yeah, It bloody nuts, and the scariest part is that most of the people supporting then don't actually bother to read up on what their aims are. They also don't bother to check what they do with the donations that they receive... no one seems to mind that they are primarily used to fund Joe Biden's political campaign.

@onemoreuser

Oh do fuck off. Of course I know I'm lucky, I'm thankful everyday my parents came over here whilst I was young rather than staying in my country. But guess what, all of those things were in spite of my race. Because despite being an incredibly successful independent woman, the first thing people judge me for is the colour of my skin. That's what structural racism is, that no matter what your position in society your still looked down on because you're not white, society is still designed against you because it's designed for white people. That's why black celebs are still allowed to talk about their oppression, because despite being millionaires they still face oppression because of their skin colour, makes you wonder what great heights they could've achieved if they'd been lucky enough to be born white. Oppressed doesn't mean your life is all around shit, it means you've been disadvantaged by one group because you are a member of another group they see as inferior. It's not the oppression Olympics, we have to tackle racism in all its forms. Black people wont suddenly be equal when the police stop killing them, there's still a battle to be fought and that battle includes everyone from those in abject poverty to privileged wealthy minorities because this battle is about racism - being looked down on for the colour of your skin.

Don’t listen to a big bunch of white folk competitively explaining racism to each other in diaper group for woke cookies. They don’t know shit. They’re just performing:

I agree with this. I am sick of woke white people hijacking the cause and making it their latest project. I want to hear debate and discussion by BAME people. I wouldn't listen to a man about women's problems, so why would I listen to white people educating me about issues experienced by people of colour.

I think you will find this is the latest virtue signalling topic. It was climate change, now it's this.

That is not to say that white people aren't part of the solution. Of course they are. It's just that you can't listen whilst you are talking. I also won't listen to people pulling down statues and screaming in my face. I want to listen to people from the BAME community who have serious clout behind them and can get people to "listen".

@PermanentCobOn

Don’t listen to a big bunch of white folk competitively explaining racism to each other in diaper group for woke cookies. They don’t know shit. They’re just performing:

I agree with this. I am sick of woke white people hijacking the cause and making it their latest project. I want to hear debate and discussion by BAME people. I wouldn't listen to a man about women's problems, so why would I listen to white people educating me about issues experienced by people of colour.

I think you will find this is the latest virtue signalling topic. It was climate change, now it's this.

That is not to say that white people aren't part of the solution. Of course they are. It's just that you can't listen whilst you are talking. I also won't listen to people pulling down statues and screaming in my face. I want to listen to people from the BAME community who have serious clout behind them and can get people to "listen".

Can't recall seeing in the op's original post that the fb moderator who set up this additional group to discuss BLM was a white person.

Yes, I agree there is much virtual signalling going on, silence is violence apparently so when white people address the issue they are lumped together as white woke, if nothing is said it's viewed by some as complicit.

Ah you have ASD. I do as well and it can be hard to see others opinions. I have found it this aspect easier as I got older tho.

Many people have explained why people might object to being “educated” on an unrelated issue on a cloth nappy group so you have food for thought op.

For anyone interested in police and criminal justice statistics in the USA, Including both lethal and non-lethal force used during arrests, this is well worth listening to.

I suspect that the reason it was posted was as someone earlier said, that admin felt it needed to be seen to be addressed

YABU I don't agree with what the admins did and they didn't have to start a thread "educating" people about BLM to be seen to be addressing the issue. I also find off-topic posts in FB groups really irritating (and I don't have a "chip on my shoulder either"). What I would've done had I been the admins was:

1. Made sure that the group rules included "no offensive" or "no racist" posts (which tends to be a default FB group rule anyway)
2. Deleted the offensive post and sent a message to the poster explaining why their post was removed (this is easy as an admin)
3. After deleting the post I would've then made a comment on the thread reminding people of the rules, then closed the thread to further comments.

Absolutely no need to start another thread, especially an off-topic and emotive one. Personally I hate it when topic-specific groups start allowing all sorts to creep in as before you know it people take it as a green light to post all sorts of irrelevant shite. Over the years I've seen a few good groups ruined that way, so I nip it in the bud.