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Having my parents round - AIBU

192 replies

StonedRoses · 24/06/2020 08:41

So my DW is not the biggest fan of my parents! She finds them a bit tedious and boring! They are a bit doddery these days and rather set in their routines. But I’m quite fond of them in their annoying way. Yesterday I had an email from my father saying that as the rules were being relaxed from 4th July could they come over and see us for a day. My mother hasn’t really been out since lockdown and wants a change of scenery and misses her grandchildren.
I asked my DW and she said no. Too much hassle, she finds them irritating and boring and she doesn’t want them here. She pointed out that I saw them last month anyway - for 30min in their garden. I’m quite hurt by this. I’d like to see them properly and it seems wrong that I have to get permission to invite my parents to our house. We could try and meet up elsewhere but it’ll be much easier for them to come here.
AIBU to be upset at this?

OP posts:
Stonerosie67 · 26/06/2020 14:00

So, did you see your parents???

Mittens030869 · 26/06/2020 14:21

People with MH issues are responsible for how it impacts upon other people. I overreact to things because of my MH issues but I don't use it as an excuse. I'm aware of this, though, and am able to remove myself until I've calmed down. Also, my DH doesn't pussyfoot around me; if he thinks I'm not coping he'll speak up. And that's what I want from him.

WingingItSince1973 · 26/06/2020 15:41

From reading your older posts it seems your DW has been through some serious mental health issues. Did she resolve the awful counsellor problem a few years ago? You have stood by her for many years through so much. Did she ever visit a proper phsycologist? If she's still having problems with her parents it could be she sees all extended family as a threat maybe? But you and your ds need to see your parents and they need to see you. It would be absolutely tragic if that relationship was damaged because of your dw issues. X

WannabeJolie · 26/06/2020 15:46

My MIL hasn’t been at all brilliant with me and barely bothers with our kids but for the sake of my dh I we do have her over. I think your wife is being really unkind.

Iloveacurry · 26/06/2020 15:50

If it’s too much for your wife, can’t you suggest your parents come over for lunch, but tell them you have plans for the evening, friends coming over for BBQ, so they’re not there all day? Would that be better for your wife?

LannieDuck · 26/06/2020 16:21

Too much hassle

What did she mean by this? Why would it be hassle to her if your parents came over?

Would you expect her to host them, or could she just say hello politely and then disappear off to another room?

Thurmanmurman · 26/06/2020 16:24

She sounds like a really horrible person OP and she can't care much about you if she isn't willing to have your parents over because she finds them a bit boring. Stand up for yourself and your poor parents who've done nothing wrong.

SavannahCat · 26/06/2020 16:25

She can fuck right off OP. NO WAY do you need to ask her anything when it comes to your parents. Definitely make time for them. They won't be around for much longer

birthdaybelle · 26/06/2020 16:41

Aww this is horrible. Unless they're unkind to her she needs to realise when you marry you do take on the family

MrsExpo · 26/06/2020 16:47

What do you mean "it's her house so you have to ask" ... ? If you are married, it's your house too, so just tell her your DPs are coming over on and she can like it or lump it.

Sounds like you have bigger problems OP.

Mittens030869 · 26/06/2020 17:00

She sounds like a really horrible person OP and she can't care much about you if she isn't willing to have your parents over because she finds them a bit boring. Stand up for yourself and your poor parents who've done nothing *wrong.
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I agree. I do find my MIL hard work, but it isn't a reason to tell my DH that I don't want her in the house. Because she's his mum and my DDs' Grandma, so it isn't about me. That's the key thing. My DH puts up with my DM and my DSis (who are also hard work at times); it's what you do if you love your partner, you grin and bear it, or ,if you really can't, you find something else to do.

vintageyoda · 26/06/2020 20:16

Anyone who says you can't have your parents to visit because they are boring is being a bitch. It's different if they have been grim to her ( I hope you are really sure they haven't and aren't just ignoring bad behaviour on their part), no one should have to tolerate people treating them badly in their own home.

FerventFox · 26/06/2020 20:52

@StonedRoses

Not a wind up. I wish it was. And I am bothered. Deeply. It’s tearing me apart. I am conflicted between what’s best for my son, my parents, my wife (because I do care for her and I believe she’s ill) and finally myself. I really worry about her health and what impact my actions could have on that. I’m trying my best to keep my son out of this and keep things as normal for him as possible (whatever normal is at the moment!). I feel this is better done with me in the house then leaving. I suspect lots of here people know that ltb or just stand up to then isn’t as straightforward as it sounds I am doing a lot of soul searching and thinking - and the advice on here has been very helpful. I’m sorry if I don’t reply to each post or if I come across as uncaring. Sometimes there isn’t much more to say.
I have complex mental health issues. I have boarded on being admitted to psychiatric hospitals due to anxiety and depression more then once but touch wood have never gone far enough to be admitted. I like your wife have a deep need to feel in control at all times. I cannot cope with sudden changes or situations i cannot control. This had a huge negative impact on my DH, specially when he is a very social person who enjoys nights out whereas I'm a introvert who enjoys my own space. I used to blow up over rediculous things such as DH not coming straight home from work, or not coming home at 8pm when out with friends and instead saying he would be home later. I realised that although I couldnt help how i felt, it wasnt fair to force other people to suffer for my emotions. So I sought out a mixture of therapy while also realising that sometimes I would have to learn how to manage my intense anxiety about situations. This has meant our relationship has gotten much stronger as I have learnt coping mechanisms, and my DH has responded by being aware of when things are really too much. It is possible and that is what your wife should be working towards. At one point my DH had all the pressure of walking on egg shells and frankly it almost destroyed our relationship (hes not perfect either mind you) in many ways as its simply not healthy. In many ways i am INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL that he didnt enable my toxic behaviours. My previous long term relationship was with a lovely guy who enabled my anxieties and insecurities, and the problem with enabling mental health is that you DO NOT GET BETTER, as you simply have no need to. I actually ended up leaving that relationship because i recognised that i couldnt get better with someone who would ask how high when i said jump even if they didnt want to.

Regarding PIL, frankly my PIL are a absolute nightmare. There is a huge backstory, but the TLDR version is that they are seperated and both abusive in their own ways, resulting in periods of NC with both in the past 5 years. My DH although cautious with them, wants a relationship because they are his parents, whereas i on the other hand will never be able to forgive them for not only their actions since i've been with DH but the way he was treated throughout childhood (I'm a psychological researcher) and how this now impacts him as a adult (his not so good bits). BUT before my DH drove, i did semi regularly drive him to see one or another of his parents. I hated it, absolutely dreaded it as they were vindicted and manipulative, I would have severe anxiety in the 24 hours leading up to it, and would spend the entire time there hating every second, but i sucked it up, plastered a smile on, was meek and polite and kept myself on the fringes of interaction enough to be socially acceptable. It was and still is my idea of personal hell, specially as they love to spring things on us which is my idea of a nightmare, but i respect the fact that my DH has a right to see and have a relationship with his parents. So i will enough him to have a relationship with healthy boundries.

But what I am trying to say is that mental health may need extra support and understanding, but it cannot be allowed to dictate the lives of those around you. Theres a difference between needing additional consideration if having a bad day/week in comparison to dictating everyones movements for years. You absolutely should not be having to chose between your wife and parents, and your DS should not be suffering by having a broken relationship with his grandparents. If your wife is really as bad as she makes out then your DS needs all the support from other adults as he can get.

Likewise regarding your Son, being in this situation with you being submissive to every whim of your wife is teaching your son that abuse, because this is abuse, is acceptable. And unfortunately childen often follow the patterns their parents exhibit for them while there growing up. Do you really want in 10/20 years to not be able to see your son, as he has become a doormat for a equally controlling and abuse women? Likewise its not healthy for a child to be in a situation where there every action is controlled, its setting them up to either rebel against control/authority or the possibility of being bullied/scapegoat/doormat as they wont learn to display autonomy or a voice/opinion. If your wife is not controlling your son as she is to you, then frankly shes purposefully being abusive towards you as you cannot control who your anxieties impact (At my worse it impacted my DH, my parents, my closest friends equally).

Please dont allow mental health to be used as a excuse to be abusive. I've been on both sides of it, the one using my mental health as a excuse and the one trying to help someone who used mental health as a excuse. and it really IS NOT a excuse and it really does nothing to support those with mental health problems to label them one and the same. Unfortunately something i've learnt is that people have to want to help themselves. They may learn to help themselves when people stop enabling them/they are forced to, they may see the damage they are doing and make the choice. Or they may be perfectly happy to use mental health as a excuse to be abusive and therefore refuse to even attempt to get help. If you try to help someone to help themselves but they refuse, all you can do is walk away from it, as you have done EVERYTHING you could and are not responsible for their actions going forward. If you walk away and are really concerned then you can report it to local mental health crisis team and/or police for welfare checks. But you absolutely do NOT leave your son with your wife if her mental health is as bad as your claiming, as even if its not physically dangerous the mental harm of a controlling or explosive parent should not be underestimated.

bumblenbean · 27/06/2020 01:26

This is actually really sad to read.

Your feelings matter OP and so do your wishes. When considering everyone’s feelings it’s not ‘and finally’ yours as you put it. You are a unit of equals and you cannot keep swallowing your hurt and your disappointment. If you continue to put yourself at the bottom of the heap it’s going to lead to resentment and misery.

Mental health problems are complex (I suffer from them myself) but as others have said they are not an excuse to be controlling and abusive. You can have MH problems and still be an unpleasant person - the 2 are not mutually exclusive - and equally it’s possible to experience problems and receive support without expecting everything to revolve around one’s own issues and anxieties.

You are unwittingly enabling her behaviour and every time you pander to her demands you are reinforcing the problem and showing her that you’re willing to have your own feelings trampled on and shoved aside. This is not doing you, her or your son any favours. It might seem like the easiest option but it’s not the only one and neither is it the right one.

Please, please insist your wife seeks proper help and start taking steps to assert yourself and start giving your own wishes and wellbeing some priority.

Have your parents round.

Don’t read these replies and dismiss them as people not understanding. Listen to what everyone is telling you. Act on it. Give yourself and the rest of your family a chance at a normal and equal family life.

Good luck Flowers

Blondebakingmumma · 27/06/2020 01:43

It’s a horrible situation you are in. Maybe approach it from a place of love.

Tell her you are supportive of her needs but also want to be able to have a relationship with your parents and for your children to have a relationship with their grandparents.

Ask her to help you find a middle ground.

What can you do to support her before or during the visit? Eg you clean the house, plan for, buy and prepare food for your parents’ visit.
If she she seems stressed she can have a code word and you could make an excuse for her to slip away and go read a book in the bath while you continue to host your parents.

You could offer for your parents to visit for a shorter period of time. You could have something planned to go to or do so your parents aren’t able to overstay their welcome.

If your house is big enough you could host your parents and tell them your wife has gone out, but she could hide out in your bedroom.

I’m sure you could come up with a few ideas to help your wife cope. I don’t think you should have to give up your relationship with your parents.

Bolloxx · 29/06/2020 19:01

@StonedRoses how are things now? I have been thinking about you as you sound so much like my son. It truly breaks my heart to see my son in a difficult relationship due to his partners abusive control. I spent years being kind to her, being thoughtful and caring, and offering support with her anxiety control issues.

All I did was confirm she had to be in control (walking in eggshells so she always got her own way) which exacerbated her manipulative controlling behaviour.

She has caused such devastating scenes, isolated my son from all his family and we don't ever see my grandchildren. It is heartbreaking. I have done nothing to upset her, well, except breathing maybe.

I genuinely hope she can find a way to accept her behaviour is damaging your family.

Take care, I know how tough it can be.

AnneElliott · 29/06/2020 19:07

She's been unreasonable op. As long as you're sorting four etc then she can just go out! But if I you expect her to host then yabu. DH does this to me sometimes and invites people I don't like and expects me to host.

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