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Was she a terrible hostess, or was I a rude guest?

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PeopleAreAllWeveGot · 22/06/2020 09:05

Im hoping someone might be able to help me to understand something that’s been really bothering me for almost a year now, whenever I think of it. I’ve name changed but long time member (penis beaker, cancel the cheque etc).

Last year, my dh and I went to stay with a Uni friend of his and his wife, & 2 kids.

I had met his mate a few times and he was nice. They’d been at our wedding but aside from brief hellos and thanks for coming I hadn’t spoken to his wife much.

I’d had our third child 3 months before we visited, so was feeling pretty fuzzy the entire time, but I can’t stop thinking about how awful his wife was to me when we were there! Whenever it pops into my head I wonder how I could have handled it better. And also whether I somehow misread the situation.

Mi dh had last visited them 10 years earlier, around the time I met him. I’d heard all about this trip, and the fact he’d chatted up a girl in a bar there and she’d not been interested (we were friends when we first got to know each other, because his long term ex had hurt him badly and he didn’t want to get serious too soon. Massively overshared with each other, but that’s another thread). It wasn’t a huge deal, he was talking about other girls he’d been chatting up in the next breath (!) And then a few months later, after i’d put a stop to the “friendship” and he’d done a bit of dating with others, he got back in touch and we ended up together. Now been married many years.

Anyway, back to this woman. Literally the first thing she spoke about, in front of some of their extended family who were there, was his last visit. But it was ALL about this girl he’d chatted up. She knew who the girl was from her husband (they live in a very small place). And she made a point of finding the girls picture online (local businessman’s daughter it seems) and showing everyone there while saying repetitively and loudly “she is totally out of your league! No wonder you didn’t get anywhere!!!”. She showed me the picture too, anything else would have been rude 😳 I was sort of “ah yes she’s lovely”, in a bemused way. She did say “not that you’re in his league. But you’ve just had a baby so...”

I thought that was probably just a bit of an unguarded weird moment from the wife. But over the course of a 3 night stay, she literally made a point of telling me 3 times that she’d really really liked Dh’s ex (who she had met just once at their wedding 12 years ago, and who’s name she had forgotten). Like REALLY lovely girl. She REALLY REALLY liked her. Ive net the girl and she’s very nice. I have nothing against her. It just felt so so over the tip and fake coming from this woman, especially as she genuinely had to be reminded the first time she said it who the ex was, what she looked like, and what her name was.

She was an amazing host to my kids and husband, like outstandingly welcoming and lovely. She is an incredible cook. She took us to meet their friends, and made efforts to keep us entertained. Their home was immaculate. There was just this glitch in the matrix when it came to me!

Honestly, I got the feeling she was actively trying to make me feel like crap. We were guests so of course I was just friendly and didn’t respond to the strange comments.

One morning my husband let me sleep in while he took the baby and the two kids on a walk. Friends wife made a hugely pointed comment when I came downstairs at 10, I can’t remember what it was but I got the very strong impression she thought I was the rudest guest in existence because I hadn’t woken early. Is it terrifically rude to sleep in when ones a guest? I wouldn’t usually do it, ever, but I was exhausted with the baby and it was such a lovely holiday treat I let it happen.

Basically when we left I felt so relieved never to have to see this woman again. But every few months the trip pops into my head and the full horror of it washes over me. AIBU for feeling like this? It makes me want to message her and say “that was a really tough time, and I can’t believe anyone would be such a bitch! Is it because I was huge and exhausted and you saw someone weak to prod? Because that makes you evil.” But obviously I won’t.

So, AIBU for thinking she was being bitchy? Or are these normal things to say and I was exhausted and being overly sensitive? Is it so rude for a guest to lie in, that they deserve to be put in their place? If she WAS being a cow, why would someone do that?

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TheCanterburyWhales · 22/06/2020 09:10

She was being bitchy yes. Sounds weirdly invested in your husband to keep bringing stuff up from his past.
I meet up with uni friends every couple of years, and yes, once the friendship is like that, that's it's only university memories holding you together, you do tend to talk about the stuff that happened then. But we're all married etc now so the idea of one of us constantly bringing up an ex or someone one of us tried to get off with would come up, but in a funny anecdote way. If at all.

However, I think she has a point about lying on bed till 10 when you're staying with someone and everyone else is up and about.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 22/06/2020 09:16

They aren’t normal things to say at all - if I’m being charitable maybe she felt on the back foot and her knowledge of this woman was her only thing to talk about with your DH, but she massively overdid it and was hugely insensitive to you. Or maybe she’s just an arse. Either what, I’d forget about it as it says a lot more about her than you, sounds like you were quite dignified over it.

On the breakfast thing, it depends what your hosts had arranged - if they’d prepared a breakfast for everyone then you rocked up later then yes, that would have been rude. However, if it was much less formal and your husband explained, then I don’t see why it would have been an issue. It’s not like you lay in until 3pm!

namesnames · 22/06/2020 09:18

She sounds like a idiot, try not to give her headspace.

I wouldn't care what time any guest slept until as I am not the sleep police.

namesnames · 22/06/2020 09:18

an idiot

Mushypeasandchipstogo · 22/06/2020 09:19

Yes , she sounds an absolute bitch. I wouldn’t have anything to do with her in the future.

Kittytheteapot · 22/06/2020 09:19

I dont know. You say she was an amazing host to your husband and children so maybe she just didnt like you all that much on first acquaintance? It sounds like you weren't all that taken with her either? So just chalk it up as one of those things. You dont like each other. You need never meet again. Shrug it off.

FWIW, I dont think a lie in until 10 when you are 3 months post partum sounds awful. It's not as if the children were running riot around the house or everyone was sitting about waiting for you to get up. Your husband had taken them out. So I dont think you were a bad guest.

Cadent · 22/06/2020 09:22

Of course she was rude about the woman (presumably not girl) that your DH hit on.

But you do seem to be surprised that she was both a good 'hostess' and 'incredible cook' who kept an 'immaculate house' AND a bit nasty. The two are not linked. You can be one without the other.

And technically, presumably you also ate her incredible cooking and stayed in her 'immaculate' house, so she was a good host to you.

I find your post a bit misogynistic OP.

TheWayOfTheWorld · 22/06/2020 09:22

If I had a new mother staying with me I'd be sending her back to bed and asking if she'd like breakfast in bed! She sounds very unkind.

WinnieWonder · 22/06/2020 09:23

She was being very passive aggressive yes.
Would not be in a rush to see her again.

BadLad · 22/06/2020 09:23

Friends wife made a hugely pointed comment when I came downstairs at 10, I can’t remember what it was but I got the very strong impression she thought I was the rudest guest in existence because I hadn’t woken early. Is it terrifically rude to sleep in when ones a guest? I wouldn’t usually do it, ever, but I was exhausted with the baby and it was such a lovely holiday treat I let it happen.

This is one reason why I hated staying with people. I used to feel uncomfortable making myself at home in their living room before they get up, but at the same time I didn't want to sleep in hours after they were up and about. So I used to wake up early, strain my ears to catch signs of life and then get up about 15 minutes after them.

Now I only ever stay with a few very laid back friends. Otherwise I'll always stay at a nearby hotel instead.

YouDirtyMare · 22/06/2020 09:24

She was rude
You staying in bed would bother me in the least

onedayinthefuture · 22/06/2020 09:24

I wonder if she has a bit of a thing for your DH? Is she jealous maybe? Very odd behaviour and someone you know now to avoid?

thebabessavedme · 22/06/2020 09:25

she sounds nasty - perhaps its the uni thing?, my dh dropped his uni friends when he woke up to the fact that the women of the group were very off with me and totally refused to accept that dh was now the very commited stepfather of my dd, not just my partner and that we were a 'proper family' iyswim? very odd behaviour and I can only assume they were in some way jealous

as to having a lay in surely anyone who has ever had a baby would not mind a guest enjoying a bit of sleep?

borntohula · 22/06/2020 09:25

NO you were not being rude for staying in bed until 10 when your DH and kids had gone out! Not 3 months postpartum anyway. She sounds like a shit stirrer.

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 22/06/2020 09:26

i dont know, perhaps she was nervous?
but i believe it is rude to sleep in so late when you are guests.

elessar · 22/06/2020 09:26

She sounds very weird and bitchy - the comments you have described definitely point to her trying to put you down and score points against you.

Either she's a complete oddball or could there have been something you said (inadvertently?) to offend her? Not that there's any excuse for her behaviour. What did your DH make of it?

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 22/06/2020 09:27

you dont even particularly know them, why should you stay in bed til 10? you are not a princess?

PeopleAreAllWeveGot · 22/06/2020 09:29

@Cadent

Of course she was rude about the woman (presumably not girl) that your DH hit on.

But you do seem to be surprised that she was both a good 'hostess' and 'incredible cook' who kept an 'immaculate house' AND a bit nasty. The two are not linked. You can be one without the other.

And technically, presumably you also ate her incredible cooking and stayed in her 'immaculate' house, so she was a good host to you.

I find your post a bit misogynistic OP.

I included the paragraph about how good a host she was because (yes of course including me) on the surface she was a great host. But under the radar, as it were, she was saying these things, and only to me. If she'd not said the things I mentioned she is a host I would want to emulate. Maybe that's why is was more stark- the difference between how warm the mechanics of the stay were and how she was being with me?

I suppose I said girl as that was the way the wife spoke about the woman dh had chatted to - a young fully sort of vibe- but yes of course you're right she was a woman!

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hoorayforharoldlloyd · 22/06/2020 09:29

How on earth is this post misogynistic?

MorrisZapp · 22/06/2020 09:29

I don't think the food, nice house etc is relevant. I hate the MN 'hostess' thing.

She was unpleasant to you, who knows why. I wouldn't rush to spend time with her again.

WinnieWonder · 22/06/2020 09:30

Yeh id rather have take away chips and a bit of genuine warmth

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 22/06/2020 09:32

did your dh notice?

PeopleAreAllWeveGot · 22/06/2020 09:32

@CrowdedHouseinQuarantine

you dont even particularly know them, why should you stay in bed til 10? you are not a princess?
Fair enough if it's rude. If a guest ever sleeps in at ours, especially if they have a small baby, I don't think of it as rude at all. Completely take that it's rude to some, and won't do it again.

Her comments came as soon as we arrived and continued throughout. I think the lie in was the middle morning, so we had been there 2 nights by then. Which means it wasn't the lie in that riled her. And cant have been something id said as literally all id said was "hello! So good to see you! What an amazing home. Thank you so so much for having us"

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FlossieTeacakesFurCoat18 · 22/06/2020 09:32

Oh god, the loons are out in force. "Mysogynistic" indeed. I think OP was setting the scene that it was otherwise perfect hosting.

And why shouldn't you sleep till ten when you have the chance because dh had taken the kids out? Bloody hell 🙄

She was incredibly rude and we can only guess at why. I'd think she was an insecure person and wanted to make you feel shit, even though she barely knew you. That's just what some people are like.

Or she coulf have had a thing for your dh herself and wanted to hurt the woman who "got him".

Either way try to put it out of your head, it's definitely her not you!

SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 22/06/2020 09:33

10 o'clock isn't a massive lie in, not like you were holding them up from doing something if your husband was out and about with the kids.

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