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Was she a terrible hostess, or was I a rude guest?

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PeopleAreAllWeveGot · 22/06/2020 09:05

Im hoping someone might be able to help me to understand something that’s been really bothering me for almost a year now, whenever I think of it. I’ve name changed but long time member (penis beaker, cancel the cheque etc).

Last year, my dh and I went to stay with a Uni friend of his and his wife, & 2 kids.

I had met his mate a few times and he was nice. They’d been at our wedding but aside from brief hellos and thanks for coming I hadn’t spoken to his wife much.

I’d had our third child 3 months before we visited, so was feeling pretty fuzzy the entire time, but I can’t stop thinking about how awful his wife was to me when we were there! Whenever it pops into my head I wonder how I could have handled it better. And also whether I somehow misread the situation.

Mi dh had last visited them 10 years earlier, around the time I met him. I’d heard all about this trip, and the fact he’d chatted up a girl in a bar there and she’d not been interested (we were friends when we first got to know each other, because his long term ex had hurt him badly and he didn’t want to get serious too soon. Massively overshared with each other, but that’s another thread). It wasn’t a huge deal, he was talking about other girls he’d been chatting up in the next breath (!) And then a few months later, after i’d put a stop to the “friendship” and he’d done a bit of dating with others, he got back in touch and we ended up together. Now been married many years.

Anyway, back to this woman. Literally the first thing she spoke about, in front of some of their extended family who were there, was his last visit. But it was ALL about this girl he’d chatted up. She knew who the girl was from her husband (they live in a very small place). And she made a point of finding the girls picture online (local businessman’s daughter it seems) and showing everyone there while saying repetitively and loudly “she is totally out of your league! No wonder you didn’t get anywhere!!!”. She showed me the picture too, anything else would have been rude 😳 I was sort of “ah yes she’s lovely”, in a bemused way. She did say “not that you’re in his league. But you’ve just had a baby so...”

I thought that was probably just a bit of an unguarded weird moment from the wife. But over the course of a 3 night stay, she literally made a point of telling me 3 times that she’d really really liked Dh’s ex (who she had met just once at their wedding 12 years ago, and who’s name she had forgotten). Like REALLY lovely girl. She REALLY REALLY liked her. Ive net the girl and she’s very nice. I have nothing against her. It just felt so so over the tip and fake coming from this woman, especially as she genuinely had to be reminded the first time she said it who the ex was, what she looked like, and what her name was.

She was an amazing host to my kids and husband, like outstandingly welcoming and lovely. She is an incredible cook. She took us to meet their friends, and made efforts to keep us entertained. Their home was immaculate. There was just this glitch in the matrix when it came to me!

Honestly, I got the feeling she was actively trying to make me feel like crap. We were guests so of course I was just friendly and didn’t respond to the strange comments.

One morning my husband let me sleep in while he took the baby and the two kids on a walk. Friends wife made a hugely pointed comment when I came downstairs at 10, I can’t remember what it was but I got the very strong impression she thought I was the rudest guest in existence because I hadn’t woken early. Is it terrifically rude to sleep in when ones a guest? I wouldn’t usually do it, ever, but I was exhausted with the baby and it was such a lovely holiday treat I let it happen.

Basically when we left I felt so relieved never to have to see this woman again. But every few months the trip pops into my head and the full horror of it washes over me. AIBU for feeling like this? It makes me want to message her and say “that was a really tough time, and I can’t believe anyone would be such a bitch! Is it because I was huge and exhausted and you saw someone weak to prod? Because that makes you evil.” But obviously I won’t.

So, AIBU for thinking she was being bitchy? Or are these normal things to say and I was exhausted and being overly sensitive? Is it so rude for a guest to lie in, that they deserve to be put in their place? If she WAS being a cow, why would someone do that?

OP posts:
OhCaptain · 23/06/2020 19:18

Sounds like one man decided his wife would be fine to stay with strangers three months after giving birth, and the other man decided his wife would be happy to play host to five people, one of whom was a squalling newborn, and the two women took it out on each other.

You've mentioned feeling vulnerable a couple of times but it's not her fault you were feeling overweight and vulnerable.

Just as it's not your fault that your dh railroaded you into staying!

BreatheAndFocus · 23/06/2020 19:20

She sounds like a real bitch, desperately bringing things up to try to make you feel insecure.

Don’t take it personally. I bet she’d have been the same with any woman not part of the group.

You behaved very well in the face of all that provocation. I also don’t think you did wrong to lie in. As a PP said, when I have guests, I like some time to myself in the morning to tidy up and have a bit of ‘alone time’. No doubt her comment was just another attempt to make you feel bad.

MrsBadcrumble123 · 23/06/2020 19:25

She was a bitch, forget about her she sounds vile. Note: never stay there or invite them to yours again - unless you have your bitch-back A game ready

Coronabegone · 23/06/2020 19:50

Fecking bitch!!!

Coronabegone · 23/06/2020 19:50

That's her not you! 😮

Isthisnothing · 23/06/2020 19:52

She's horrible and a total bore. She had an issue with you before you even arrived that was all to do with her and nothing with you; jealousy, insecurity or annoyance that you were coming.

She reminds me of my SIL. I avoid her like the plague now; sneaks off and pays the bill with her husband's credit card then makes snide remarks about us not paying our way, talks incessantly about the ex (who she doesn't even get on with), commented on my weight after I had my baby, insists we visit, pushes the boat out hugely in terms of hosting and won't accept multiple offers of help then makes remarks to DH about me sitting on my bum all weekend, came in and sat on the bed when dh took baby and let me have a very very rare lie-in.

I would never resent a guest having a lie-in unless they were in a communal area or something.

Her behaviour was shocking and unkind. What on earth did she mean by "but youve just had a baby". The gushing about an ex whose name she couldn't even remember is just too pathetic for words.

You did nothing wrong and were right not to send an additional gift - she probably dropped those hints on purpose.

Do not invite them back and if you see her at a wedding or whatever be friendly and in a huge hurry to the dancefloor bathroom or bar.

cherish123 · 23/06/2020 20:07

She does sound a bit of a cow. She may have been annoyed by the 10am rise. Personally it would not bother me but I probably wouldn't sleep in at someone else's.

EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 23/06/2020 20:16

Last Year? - so this is somewhere between six months and eighteen months ago and you're still ruminating on it?

You need to get out more Grin

Maybe not stay there again, but move on.

NWMom · 23/06/2020 20:25

Let go... just bc it’s not worth your mental energy. Avoid her company in the future. You are a family - one whole, every single one of you should be welcome and appreciated by true friends.

nannykatherine · 23/06/2020 20:27

there is only one word for her and it’s BULLY
she got a feeling of power from the way she treated you
once you recognise this
you can put her and the experience in a cupboard
lock it
and throw away the key
(not literally of course )
but you will feel much better when you do

Livpool · 23/06/2020 20:37

She sounds horrible and not a good host at all.

And the 10 am lie in wouldn't bother me. I wouldn't care if someone who hadn't had a baby 3 months ago slept later than 10 to be honest. And I'd be sending a new mum back to bed if her husband had taken the kids out

5LeafPenguin · 23/06/2020 20:40

I agree that she didn't want to host ( 3 days is quite a long time). Maybe your h invited himself / her h invited him based on how things used to be but the dynamic is hugely different between a lone bloke and a family of 5 so it was less fun than they remember.

Maybe she couldn't think of any other common ground with your h and then didn't really hit it off with you either. So she's going back to what she knew and again the dynamic was wrong.

The giving you a lie in does sound a bit like your h thought it was a cross between a visit and a family holiday. Could he have been reading more into the closeness of the friendship than she thought was the case (so she thought it was a bit cheeky) or her h could have been driving it and you were the latest in a long line of his generous hosting ( that she does the work for).

It sounds totally awkward for you...but not your fault. I can't think arriving downstairs earlier on one day would have made too much difference, so i would just write it off to experience (but I would think twice before turning up anywhere for 3 days on Dh's say so again).

LovelyIssues · 23/06/2020 20:49

She sounds rude, jealous and overally invested in your husband Flowers well done you for not losing your shite

Lovely13 · 23/06/2020 21:01

I no longer stay in other people’s houses if I can avoid it. Much prefer my own space. And if you’d been staying with me, I’d have told you to sleep until any time you liked. You’ve just had a baby and are doing brilliantly. Socialising etc. She sounds horrid, and probably fancies your husband.

Attitude84 · 23/06/2020 21:14

She sounds like an arsehole. Next time your hubby makes a suggestion or if they do about a visit either way, you make a massive point of how she can see his ex instead. What a complete bitch. I’d never give her the light of day again. Your husband should have defended you too.

Insanelysilver · 23/06/2020 21:45

She sounds like a cow. Who keeps banging on about a friends Ex to his partner, and then comments she was out of his league!
Presumably you asked your husband about whether he thought she was weird with you?
Did he pick up on anything? Mind you it would be typical of a man to be oblivious to it.
Anyway try not to worry about it. She clearly Just got off on making someone feel 💩

FelicisNox · 23/06/2020 22:17

YANBU and I agree that she was weirdly over invested in your husband and his past.

Her behaviour was beyond rude bordering on out and out spite. As for you sleeping in: you'd just had a baby, why can't you have a lie in?

The only person who should have an issue with it is your husband and he deliberately left you in bed.

I've no time for such house guest "rules" unless the entire household had a trip planned.

She's a bitch, just don't go again. I assume your DH knows what happened?

mylittleavalon · 23/06/2020 22:29

I would be so so happy if a mum with a three month old had the chance for a lie in at my house so they can catch up on some sleep. But obviously that's not everyones opinion.

PeopleAreAllWeveGot · 23/06/2020 22:32

I can't tell you how much this thread has helped get this in perspective. Thank you.

I think on reflection what happened was my husband basically invited himself (us), because that's the sort of friendship he and his mate have. And his wife felt she had to host and was pissed off, couldn't get to my husband with bitchiness and saw an easy target in me.

I will never, ever let that happen again. It's possible I wasn't quite with it at the time, because I can't imagine not questioning it more now.

We both helped out, I was pleasant, but I think my card was marked. When I had the lie in, I think that was just a nail in the "ugh she is awful" coffin.

I do think even if I was seriously pissed off with a situation the last thing I'd do is actively try to belittle someone. Maybe some posters were right and she's not very happy, because the only people I've met who feel better when they knock others down have been unhappy.

OP posts:
simiisme · 23/06/2020 23:42

@FlossieTeacakesFurCoat18

Oh god, the loons are out in force. "Mysogynistic" indeed. I think OP was setting the scene that it was otherwise perfect hosting.

And why shouldn't you sleep till ten when you have the chance because dh had taken the kids out? Bloody hell 🙄

She was incredibly rude and we can only guess at why. I'd think she was an insecure person and wanted to make you feel shit, even though she barely knew you. That's just what some people are like.

Or she coulf have had a thing for your dh herself and wanted to hurt the woman who "got him".

Either way try to put it out of your head, it's definitely her not you!

You wrote my thoughts exactly. Avoid the bitch.
Dieu · 24/06/2020 02:14

Wow, what a horrible person she is. And good on you for having your lie-in! Bet the bitch wouldn't have batted an eyelid if it had been you up early with the kids.

managedmis · 24/06/2020 02:41

I remember being pregnant and staying with a couple (friends of DH) who did not have kids for a few days. DS would have been around 2.5 and on the last day when he took a nap, I did too. So I slept for about 2 hours during the day.

Our hostess (the wife) was incredulous that I managed to sleep and basically didn't seem to believe that I did! 'Really?! You slept??' I remember her saying Confused

People are odd

TehBewilderness · 24/06/2020 03:36

Sometimes people will take a liking or a dislike to us because we remind them of someone else.
I have no idea why they acted so strangely.
I hope it will be a funny "remember that time" story between you and your husband someday.

Scotmummy1216 · 24/06/2020 04:16

People like that aren't worth your time or upset. I wouldn't visit them again.

AllosaurusMum · 24/06/2020 05:15

@PeopleAreAllWeveGot

I can't tell you how much this thread has helped get this in perspective. Thank you.

I think on reflection what happened was my husband basically invited himself (us), because that's the sort of friendship he and his mate have. And his wife felt she had to host and was pissed off, couldn't get to my husband with bitchiness and saw an easy target in me.

I will never, ever let that happen again. It's possible I wasn't quite with it at the time, because I can't imagine not questioning it more now.

We both helped out, I was pleasant, but I think my card was marked. When I had the lie in, I think that was just a nail in the "ugh she is awful" coffin.

I do think even if I was seriously pissed off with a situation the last thing I'd do is actively try to belittle someone. Maybe some posters were right and she's not very happy, because the only people I've met who feel better when they knock others down have been unhappy.

I don’t even think she was doing it because she likes being mean. I think it was more a means to an end. If she was passive aggressive to your husband there’s a good chance he wouldn’t care and would still be fine staying at their house. But if she’s passive aggressive to you it’s a much better chance that you will make sure your family never imposes on her again. Especially considering your husband invited himself to stay in her house like that.
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