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Close friend ended friendship due to 'difference in morals'

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Unpopularopinion1 · 21/06/2020 19:57

Name changed. I'm really hurt by what's happened, and I'm struggling with being told my opinions, which I've never thought are anything too uncommon, are that 'disgusting' (her words) that she cannot continue the friendship. We had a disagreement about a certain subject, which led to her blocking me. A few days later she unblocked me and attacked me with all these messages about different topics, asking me outright what I think as some sort of test, before concluding my answers weren't good enough for her high standards.

AIBU for thinking two close friends, of decades, should be able to have different opinions without cutting ties? I'm not sure I have any choice but to let it go. I'm just angry.

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Coffeecak3 · 21/06/2020 20:43

Your big mistake was to apologise to her for not voting Labour. I'm a Labour supporter but last year I really couldn't blame anyone who didn't vote for them.
You have as much right to an opinion as she does. As long as you're not racist or homophobic your views are valid.

I'd be tempted to message her saying thank you so much for ending our friendship my life is so peaceful without your sanctimonious claptrap.

BovaryX · 21/06/2020 20:43

she is very vocal on twitter

She wants to dictate what your views should be and is denouncing you for refusing to obediently trot along parroting her slogans? Doesn't sound like a friend at all.

MondayYogurt · 21/06/2020 20:43

OP she is in a social media echo chamber and desperately wanting 'content' to raise her kudos within her chosen in-group. It's a common ploy to find a scapegoat and castigate them publicly to gain standing in a new circle.
She has weighed up your friendship against the potential benefit to her of loudly punishing you, and what she will gain from doing it, and decided that hurting you is of more worth to her.
Do not give her more content. There will be someone else in a day or two who she will be able to decry and 'cancel' and she'll forget you.
I suggest you do the same.

SusieOwl4 · 21/06/2020 20:43

You don’t need friends like that . I don’t think you said anything wrong and I agree just because you don’t paste your opinions all over SM does not mean people should make assumptions.

Life Is too short to have to worry about every little thing you say . It’s a free country and there are more and more subjects that are devisive .

Close friend ended friendship due to 'difference in morals'
WeAllHaveWings · 21/06/2020 20:43

I had the same discussion with a friend last month, not something I usually discuss but she asked me outright. Apparently I am not human for having concerns and we should all just go along with absolutely everything.

Devlesko · 21/06/2020 20:45

It's also scary how many of these people are turning into thought police. So easily pulled in, even to the extent of losing friendships.

PotholeParadise · 21/06/2020 20:45

I had a friend who used to 'donate a tweet' to 'stop child abuse'.

She did this by tweeting something along the lines of 'Stop Child Abuse. I donated a tweet! Donate a tweet to stop child abuse' and retweeting whatever ridiculous account started it.

I'm sure she'd defriend me for being transphobic if we were still friends, but I defriended her first for jokes about sexual violence towards prostituted women, benefit bashing, immigrant bashing and thinking that tweeting 'stop child abuse' was meaningful.

sourdoughismyreligion · 21/06/2020 20:46

@Unpopularopinion1

Her last comment was how the world is becoming progressive and I'm not progressing with it and she is. I said why are we falling out over a difference in opinions to which she said "it's a difference in morals" and blocked me again.
I'm so sorry. You've not done anything wrong, your ex-friend is a bigot. .
LJenn · 21/06/2020 20:46

She sounds like a nit picking twat to be honest. And a nasty piece of work. And SCREENSHOTTING your PRIVATE (might I add) messages and publicly posting them for clout??? WTF age IS this woman??🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🙈 god it's pathetic.

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Spocklesdream · 21/06/2020 20:48

I feel your pain OP.

I used to have a friend like this - vocal on twitter, going on about that their view was only right and if you don't agree with it you're transphobic etc.

I had to block them in the end and moved on from them and I've not spoken to them since. It's hard cause you've been friends for years but you shouldn't be getting bullied for what you believe in. You're entitled to your view as well.

apric0t · 21/06/2020 20:48

Your friend is a she's She’s a virtue signalling idiot who thinks posting her opinion online means she’s “passed the test” and if you don’t follow suit it’s because you’re a bigot

SusieOwl4 · 21/06/2020 20:48

@zigaziga

I agree with your post . It is very important to investigate and find out the truths behind any “movements” before randomly posting .And therefore silence ones not actually indicate anything except the intelligence to research diligently.

IKEA888 · 21/06/2020 20:48

she sounds mentally ill.
To not accept friends can have different opinions isn't normal at all.
Id feel really sad in your position.
I think you need to say you are upset and people can have different opinions

bishopgiggles · 21/06/2020 20:49

Maybe when things have calmed down, ask her if she can describe your 'morals' aka your views on certain subjects, in a way that you would agree accurately represents what you think.

It's a good exercise in trying to work out what someone else's point of view actually is, rather than what you imagine it to be.

MMN123 · 21/06/2020 20:50

Ask her this question:

Should women and girls have the right to be free to undress and shower in a penis free space.

My answer is yes.

I know people who say no.

That tells me those people are not feminists.

If your friend wants to answer this question ‘no’ so that some male people (transwomen) can feel better about the fact that most men won’t bother to help them find ways to be safe from violent men that’s her lookout. I’d rather look out for women because we are still disadvantaged by our sex.

Men could give up some things, like men only spaces, to protect the transwomen among them. But they don’t want to do that. They don’t want to accept that transwomen are part of the male gender spectrum just as transmen are part of the female spectrum and transmen don’t stop being protected by women’s rights when they transition.

XingMing · 21/06/2020 20:51

@Unpopularopinion1

The initial argument was because I didn’t agree that JK Rowling was transphobic. I would never want a trans person to be treated badly, but I am a women and don’t want to be a ‘person who menstruates’ she blocked me for this opinion. A few days later she unblocked and said she’s sad about ending the friendship, but she can’t be friends with a transphobic racist. I again reiterated I’m not transphobic, and asked how I was racist. She said my “silence about black lives matter was loud” and told her all she needs to know about me. I argued this was unfair and I didn’t see why I needed to post on my private social media with limited followers, but that I’d signed the petitions. She replied saying “ok then tory” despite the fact I’ve never voted conservative. Since then she has been tweeting about it’s always the people you don’t expect who are the biggest racists/transphobes etc. She also screenshot a text I’d sent about the our national debt being higher than the economy since lockdown and how it’s worrying and she tweeted the screenshot alongside the words “Tory mentality: Worried more about the economy than lives. Might as well wish the vulnerable dead” if I’m really missing the mark, educate me, don’t make me feel like a terrible person, embarrass me online and then cut all ties.
Some folk are pillocks who cannot grasp that life happens in the round. There's massive polarisation happening in the world right now, and far too many people are just following the right think.

She's trying to 'shame' you into silence.

jamandtonic · 21/06/2020 20:51

She sounds like a self-righteous, virtue-signalling arse

^ this

MMN123 · 21/06/2020 20:52

But there’s no point debating with her. She won’t listen.

For your own sanity, watch this:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=uphZ0PLXbEw

And this:
subtitlelist.com/en-GB/What-Kind-Of-Fools-Do-Transgender-UK-and-Stonewall-Take-Us-For-27561

It’s not you. Women are being silenced and many of the younger generation of feminists have lost their way a little.

Unpopularopinion1 · 21/06/2020 20:52

I've never posted on here besides questions about my DC, but it seems I'm of similar opinions to the vast majority of people replying to this. I have become a parent much younger than my friends, and on twitter all I see is all these 'woke' opinions and I feel like I'm so out of it. Like I just don't get it. It all seems too far. I would never judge anyone for their skin colour, sexual orientation, political party but I still don't fit in with the people I grew up with. It's reassuring to know I'm not 'disgusting' but perhaps just not in the same life stage as they all are. Thank you all, genuinely, for replying to this. I've really been beating myself up before I posted this.

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Itisbetter · 21/06/2020 20:53

I have one person who behaves similarly to this OP. I think lockdown, and her view that she is particularly stressed/impacted by it, has made it harder for her to behave in a balanced way. I’m actually amazed at how shockingly rude to me she is. To be honest it no longer upsets me though, as it seems to be about her not me.

IAintentDead · 21/06/2020 20:53

Your friend is not a friend.

laidbacklife · 21/06/2020 20:53

Your friend is not acting like a friend is she? I have friends who hold differing views to me with regards to lots of issues - Brexit, the economy, Covid-19, Trans rights and politics in general, to name a few. However I respect their views, they respect mine, and we do not get into heated arguments. We may discuss issues but if it starts to get out of hand then we tend to agree to disagree.
Friends do not do what your so-called friend has done to you. She has basically tried to bully you in public for, shock horror, holding a different view to her.
Perhaps it is actually her morals with regards to friendship that are questionable?
I would let her go. After all, where does this end? If you 'give in' and agree to think / do as she says this time then I'm afraid you will spend the rest of your friendship doing just that, for fear that she'll publicly 'scold' you again.

CallmeAngelina · 21/06/2020 20:53

Sounds like you've dodged a bullet with this nut-job.

Trust me: it's not you, it's her.

AnimalCrossing · 21/06/2020 20:53

She sounds obnoxious you don’t need her in your life. I agree with you re JK Rowling FYI. I don’t think her intention was to be transphobic in any way.

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