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Are this Govt fit for office??

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Thedogscollar · 19/06/2020 11:08

Ok here we go. Hand on heart are this Govt fit for office? Before you answer take into consideration.

  1. Huge balls up with PPE at beginning of pandemic.
  2. The Cummings debacle and how they defended the indefensible.

3.The handling of the schools and the millions of children not having any education and still no concrete plans in place.
4.Track and trace app being about as useful as a chocolate teapot, although they were told it would not work 2 months ago.
5.The U turn after pressure on free school meals.
  1. Spending a million pound painting a bloody aeroplane.
  2. Dominic Raab likening Taking the knee to something from Game of Thrones.


They seem to stumble from one disaster to another. Are other first world countries governments as incompetent as ours seem to be?
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Tigger001 · 20/06/2020 20:33

They are so clearly not fit for purpose, this is not a left or right thing, this is anyone with an ounce of decency or sense recognising the diabolical, negligent "leadership" that has been shown is unacceptable and we deserve better from our government.

It has been negligent mistake after negligent mistake and then lie after lie to try and cover that up. We deserve better as a country, my family deserve better and my son deserves a better future then on offer by this government.

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FliesandPies · 20/06/2020 21:03

this is not a left or right thing, this is anyone with an ounce of decency or sense recognising the diabolical, negligent "leadership" that has been shown is unacceptable and we deserve better from our government.

So true and the terrible thing is people just become even more defeatist about politics and so the situation continues election after election.

Even the wider Tory party and many Tory voters now despise Johnson/Cummings and their abject cabinet. It will be a test of character for them if they are prepared to take positive action to rid us of this embarassing mess of a government.

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XDownwiththissortofthingX · 20/06/2020 21:20

Johnson is doomed. No PM would survive with his approval rating in the sewer just six months into the job.

He'll be gone by 2022/23, and they'll coronate some gonk like Gove, or whatever snivilling shit does the best disappearing 'this is nothing to do with me' act in the six months prior

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KenDodd · 20/06/2020 21:35

Johnson is doomed. No PM would survive with his approval rating in the sewer just six months into the job

Except, if the Oxford vaccine proves successful (I'm praying to God it will be) BJ will claim all the credit, you'd think he'd developed it himself. The Tory press will be falling over themselves in their praise, they'll call it 'Boris's Vaccine' and Tory voters have shown themselves to be so fucking thick they fall for it and forget all the incompetence and lying.

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Pepperwort · 20/06/2020 21:40

I think he'll be gone sooner than that, but no one wants to pick up his mess. And it is his mess. He bears huge responsibility for the Brexit vote, and even bigger responsibility for the direction it is being taken in. He bears responsibility for selling us out to the US. He might be safe for the rest of the year. I'm not even completely sure about that.

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Scout2016 · 20/06/2020 21:45

No, they aren't fit for office. They are a bunch of chancers and careerists and many are thick as custard. They know nothing about what life is like for most people, they aren't interested and they have a poor grasp of so many things it's scary. So many are just promoted above their ability and in the wrong roles.

I do think Labour would have done better, because more of them have common sense and have lived a "real" life, went to regular schools and had proper jobs before politics. Eg. Angela Rayner did care work and Jess Phillips worked with Womens Aid. Actually, just those two women alone would have made a better job of it. Add the likes of Emily Thornberry and I really think they would have got shit done - like sort out the PPE - and had the right priorities.

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Mumratheevergiving · 20/06/2020 22:20

Let’s not forget that our Government are also busy popping chlorinated chicken and beefed up beef on our menu. And any Tory MPs who dare to dissent will not be welcome to sample such delights at the High Table with Jocular Johnson and the World Beaters
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8442473/PM-drops-anti-chlorinated-chicken-Tory-MP-intelligence-committee.html

The juggernaut is out of control

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Davincitoad · 20/06/2020 22:22

It’s a simple no from me

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Endless11 · 20/06/2020 22:29

I can’t believe anyone has to even consider this question - this government is completely incompetent, does indeed have blood on its hands, and lies continuously.

Re. Johnson, I think he will be gone within 6 months.

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Blimeyoreilly2020 · 20/06/2020 22:46

The Government have handled every step of this disaster with incompetence bordering farce. I can't imagine how much cognitive dissonance has occurred for anyone to still breathe the words "but Jeremy Corbyn would have been worse" because it's impossible to imagine quite how he could have been worse - I feel certain he would have at least had the humility to follow the science Boris and his cloven-hoofed shitweasels keep yapping on about. THIS, I’ve only got as far as this post but YES! Not a Corbyn/Momentum fan but stop trott in NC out the ‘Corbyn couldn’t have done worse’ tripe.
I think 5 years ago we would have sensibly had a cross party task force - BORIS et al couldn’t countenance it, would’ve shown them up as the incompetents they are.

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Blimeyoreilly2020 · 20/06/2020 22:47

#trotting out🙄 blasted spell check🙈

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AuntyRigsby · 20/06/2020 23:32

This is a fairly pointless question. It doesn't really matter - we voted for them!

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Hingeandbracket · 20/06/2020 23:38

@WeaselKnickers

This is a fairly pointless question. It doesn't really matter - we voted for them!

No we didn't. Of those who voted, the majority of us voted for a party other than the Tories.
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Thedogscollar · 20/06/2020 23:42

@WeaselKnickers Sorry you think its pointless. I was sort of hoping it might make the people that did vote for them take notice of how badly they have handled this health crisis.
Oh and I certainly did not vote for them.

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Mumratheevergiving · 20/06/2020 23:44

Fliesandpies - This Government are seriously overworking Michael Spicer. Absolutely no redeeming features between them.

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pontypridd · 21/06/2020 00:15

Of course they're not. They're not bloody fit for anything.

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Serin · 21/06/2020 00:20

I think that worse is yet to come.
Dominic Cummings said in his speech in the garden, that he was working hard to attract new investment into the NHS. Sell it to the big American health chains more like.

Also they will have totally stabbed the farmers (many of whom voted for them) in the back if they let the Americans go ahead with their plans to import cheap, poor quality food.

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KenDodd · 21/06/2020 09:04

I think that worse is yet to come.

I agree.

I wonder if any of the posters criticising the government voted Tory though? I saw on TV the other day that Johnson and Co have about a 45% approval rating. That's about the percentage that voted for them so maybe the people who voted for them think they're doing great despite having one of the worse (or is it the worse?) death rate and being predicted to face the worse economic impact. That's before we even factor in the Brexit most of them are foaming at the mouth for.

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CendrillonSings · 21/06/2020 10:12

I wonder if any of the posters criticising the government voted Tory though? I saw on TV the other day that Johnson and Co have about a 45% approval rating.

Of course those posters didn’t vote Conservative - they’re just moaning because they didn’t get their cherished Labour / Lib Dem / Green / SNP / Plaid Government of All the Non-Talents.

Can they keep up the tedious moaning for the next four years? It’s a tough job, but if anyone can, they can! Grin

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BaileysforBreakfast · 21/06/2020 10:18

Well, do you have any criticisms of the government Cendrillon or are you just here to go 'nah, nah, we won'? If you think they're doing a grand job, why don't you say why, instead of just pissing on the thread like an incontinent old tom cat? All you're doing at the moment is demonstrating blind, unthinking loyalty. Unthinking being the operative word here.

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user1471448556 · 21/06/2020 10:21

Jeez - I am so sick of the 'well they aren't great, but Jeremy Corbyn would have been much worse' drivel we constantly see on these threads.

Corbyn would never have achieved an outright majority - the maths wasn't there ... so if you really must compare a hypothetical situation that can never come into being with the current shit show, compare a coalition of Labour, Lib Dems and SNP to Johnson and co. I can't help thinking that a broader range of views may have resulted in more thoughtful decision making.

Our current gov are woefully lacking in talent. The experienced and talented moderate Tories have been pushed out of the cabinet - you have to be a mindless Brexit believer who's prepared to do whatever Cummings tells you to do ... and he'll choose your staff as well.

Still - they have a majority of 80 seats, so they can pretty much do what they damn well please for the next four and half years. Good luck everyone.

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Immigrantsong · 21/06/2020 10:22

@CendrillonSings

I wonder if any of the posters criticising the government voted Tory though? I saw on TV the other day that Johnson and Co have about a 45% approval rating.

Of course those posters didn’t vote Conservative - they’re just moaning because they didn’t get their cherished Labour / Lib Dem / Green / SNP / Plaid Government of All the Non-Talents.

Can they keep up the tedious moaning for the next four years? It’s a tough job, but if anyone can, they can! Grin

What you see as moaning is what we call holding people in authority accountable for their actions. You know the very principle of democracy, where all democratically elected leaders have to answer to the public for any wrongdoings. Just like you are entitled to your free speech, so are others and the fact you cannot understand this and judge it so hardly as moaning, says a lot about you.
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pinktaxi · 21/06/2020 10:23

Two words ....Jeremy Corbyn.

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donquixotedelamancha · 21/06/2020 10:28

Of course those posters didn’t vote Conservative - they’re just moaning because they didn’t get their cherished Labour / Lib Dem / Green / SNP / Plaid Government of All the Non-Talents.

I didn't vote for any of them. The reason Johnson got in is that the opposition was terrible- that doesn't make him competent.

Can they keep up the tedious moaning for the next four years? It’s a tough job, but if anyone can, they can!

In the UK we call that democracy. If you hate this country so much why not try Saudi Arabia- there is much less moaning about the government there.

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MrsSchadenfreude · 21/06/2020 10:31

“No party would successfully have managed this.”

Germany seemed to do a pretty good job. I bc won’t compare with NZ as it’s much smaller. But if Germany managed, why couldn’t we? Other countries went into lockdown early and have done a damn sight better.

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