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Are this Govt fit for office??

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Thedogscollar · 19/06/2020 11:08

Ok here we go. Hand on heart are this Govt fit for office? Before you answer take into consideration.

  1. Huge balls up with PPE at beginning of pandemic.
  2. The Cummings debacle and how they defended the indefensible.

3.The handling of the schools and the millions of children not having any education and still no concrete plans in place.
4.Track and trace app being about as useful as a chocolate teapot, although they were told it would not work 2 months ago.
5.The U turn after pressure on free school meals.
  1. Spending a million pound painting a bloody aeroplane.
  2. Dominic Raab likening Taking the knee to something from Game of Thrones.


They seem to stumble from one disaster to another. Are other first world countries governments as incompetent as ours seem to be?
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Neolara · 19/06/2020 13:28

So I think this article show quite clearly that our government has not done a good job in the pandemic compared to the vast majority of governments of other countries.

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Hingeandbracket · 19/06/2020 13:51

100% fit for office and with 4+ years left in power, thanks to the landslide majority granted them by the British public.
And our wanky old relic of an electoral system, which means most of us didn't vote for these cunts.

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Ohtherewearethen · 19/06/2020 13:52

@CendrillonSings - I am genuinely interested in your take on this. Please believe that I am not being goady or belligerent but could you expand on why you believe they have done and are still doing a good job?

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picklemewalnuts · 19/06/2020 14:00

@SacramentoQueen he was asked if he would take the knee for BLM if he was asked to. He could have said many things which were not effectively 'I don't like that symbolic action they should have chosen something else'.

He could have said 'I support the need to protect the lives of black people facing inequity in many areas'.
He could have said 'I'm not comfortable with taking the knee, but will work tirelessly to support people standing up for equality'.
He could have said many things that didn't denigrate the chosen symbol of a group of people desperate and furious about yet another black murder.

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Noextremes2017 · 19/06/2020 14:02

@XDownwiththissortofthingX

Unfortunately your last line says it all...…...

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Noextremes2017 · 19/06/2020 14:05

It IS correct though that we effectively had no choice in the last election:

An incompetent idiot sure to bankrupt the country, economically, morally and intellectually …….. or …….. Jeremy Corbyn.

What a choice!

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Canalhouse · 19/06/2020 14:08

Tell you what, why doesn’t everyone on MN who agrees stand for Parliament in the next elections and you run the country. It’s not as easy as it looks you know, they don’t have a crystal ball to see what’s coming, they have to act on facts as they have them

The difference is that I KNOW I don’t have what it takes to stand for Parliament. I don’t have the knowledge, experience, concentration or brain power. Very few members of the Tory party seem to possess these attributes either but sadly that doesn’t stop them standing or being elected. The result is the incompetent, self-serving, ineffectual and backtracking bunch of hopeless twerps we have making a total ballsup of just about everything they touch.

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Noextremes2017 · 19/06/2020 14:11

@Thedogscollar

I think you are forgetting that our Track and Trace system is 'world beating'...…

Nevermind Johnson will be as happy as a 'pig in shit' when he is flying round in his Union Jack painted plane (if any country lets him land).

Reminds me of the Brexit campaign when he was arguing that the Royal Yacht Britannia should be recommissioned so we could sail up some of these 'foreign' rivers and persuade the 'natives' to do some trade deals post-Brexit. The man lives in the 1850's!!!!!

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FudgeBrownie2019 · 19/06/2020 14:22

@picklemewalnuts has it spot on; Raab could have said anything remotely supportive of the BLM movement and it would have been enough. Instead he was deliberately goady. If he'd been on MN writing that he'd have have his arse handed to him on a Sophie Conran plate.

The Government have handled every step of this disaster with incompetence bordering farce. I can't imagine how much cognitive dissonance has occurred for anyone to still breathe the words "but Jeremy Corbyn would have been worse" because it's impossible to imagine quite how he could have been worse - I feel certain he would have at least had the humility to follow the science Boris and his cloven-hoofed shitweasels keep yapping on about.

It has felt some days like I'm watching an episode of The Thick of It. If Armando Iannucci ever predicts the lottery numbers it'd be worth putting a tenner on, because he's been bang on with every take on Government ineptitude.

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donquixotedelamancha · 19/06/2020 14:22

I think we are in less of a mess than we would have been with a government led by Jeremy Corbyn.

I am certainly no fan of Corbyn but I'm not convinced by that. When you take the most accurate measure (excess deaths) we have the worst death rate as a proportion of population in the world.

We had several weeks warning of how bad it would be because Italy got hit first. Refusing to restrict and quarrantine flights at the start and then pointlessly doing so when it was too late was ridiculous. Even the US was better than us on testing.

Refusing to use the Apple/Google contact tracing app which was ready to go was just bizarre. The cancellation of track and trace and the decision to keep large events going were probably the biggest contributors to number of deaths.

Corby was terrible at the politics of running Labour but had a good grasp of policy details and organised his followers brilliantly. I'm not sure he could have been worse than Johnson.

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donquixotedelamancha · 19/06/2020 14:26

But do keep up the moaning

Making informed judgements about the performance of the Government is the duty of everyone in the UK.

You may be unpatriotic but many of us love British democracy and want to contribute to the discussion.

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ZaZathecat · 19/06/2020 14:30

I could forgive the mistakes but I cannot forgive the lying, empty promises and taking the public for fools.

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MockersMisguidedByTheScience · 19/06/2020 14:57

The plane BJ wants to paint so expensively is the very plane the Tory press dubbed "Blair Force One" and a shocking waste of money.

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Miljea · 19/06/2020 15:02

(Patiently waits for Carrie Cendrillonsings to put us all straight....)

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Noextremes2017 · 19/06/2020 15:05

@ZaZathecat

'Lying, empty promises, taking the public for fools' = standard operating procedure!

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mbosnz · 19/06/2020 15:07

Johnson & Co. clearly have never heard the saying, 'you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time' - or they didn't think it applied to them. But that would be arrogant, ignorant folly, would it not? Surely not!

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letmethinkaboutitfornow · 19/06/2020 15:09

Well, do you have a better idea?
Until you have a proposed new approach , it’s not really worth the question.... 🤔

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Thedogscollar · 19/06/2020 15:23

cendrillon Thought you might have been back by now with a list of achievements. Oh wait there are noneGrin

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LellyMcKelly · 19/06/2020 15:24

They’re so fucking shite that it’s getting to the point where it probably wouldn’t have been worse under Corbyn, and that’s saying something. I have no clue whether there’s some godawful plan hatched up destabilise the country or whether this lot are 7th Dan incompetents. They appear to be breathtakingly thick. If I couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery I’d be insulted by people comparing me to the government who not only appear to have failed to organise a piss up in a brewery but had accidentally set fire to the brewery and the surrounding villages. It’s like watching the political version of Frank Spencer in slow motion. Still, it’s refreshing to realise that knowing some big words and having an expensive education doesn’t mean you have a fucking clue what you’re talking about. Boris Johnson is shafting the Tories because ideological social Darwinist Cummings has him by the short and curlies- Johnson is no more than a puppet now.

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GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 19/06/2020 15:32

I’d add sending people back to care homes who’d been sick in hospital without testing them. And not including care home deaths for months.

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mbosnz · 19/06/2020 15:39

@LellyMcKelly

They’re so fucking shite that it’s getting to the point where it probably wouldn’t have been worse under Corbyn, and that’s saying something. I have no clue whether there’s some godawful plan hatched up destabilise the country or whether this lot are 7th Dan incompetents. They appear to be breathtakingly thick. If I couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery I’d be insulted by people comparing me to the government who not only appear to have failed to organise a piss up in a brewery but had accidentally set fire to the brewery and the surrounding villages. It’s like watching the political version of Frank Spencer in slow motion. Still, it’s refreshing to realise that knowing some big words and having an expensive education doesn’t mean you have a fucking clue what you’re talking about. Boris Johnson is shafting the Tories because ideological social Darwinist Cummings has him by the short and curlies- Johnson is no more than a puppet now.

That was beautiful. . . Flowers
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Hingeandbracket · 19/06/2020 15:40

@Canalhouse

Tell you what, why doesn’t everyone on MN who agrees stand for Parliament in the next elections and you run the country. It’s not as easy as it looks you know, they don’t have a crystal ball to see what’s coming, they have to act on facts as they have them

The difference is that I KNOW I don’t have what it takes to stand for Parliament. I don’t have the knowledge, experience, concentration or brain power. Very few members of the Tory party seem to possess these attributes either but sadly that doesn’t stop them standing or being elected. The result is the incompetent, self-serving, ineffectual and backtracking bunch of hopeless twerps we have making a total ballsup of just about everything they touch.

I 100% agree with this analysis.

My ex used to say "you couldn't do any better" as a pithy response to my criticisms of anyone as if it was necessary to be fucking Dame Kiri Te Kanawa before being able to point out some tool singing karaoke was out of tune.

Not the point - we can see they are wank, even if we couldn't do a better job.
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tiredanddangerous · 19/06/2020 15:41

No. They are an absolute disgrace.

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Pepperwort · 19/06/2020 15:42

Absolutely not. What do you expect when you get someone like Johnson, who is nothing but a show? When politics is about nothing but "charisma", media soundbites, lies and propaganda rather than the boring minutiae and work? This is worth a read:
www.spectator.co.uk/article/my-boris-johnson-story/amp

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MockersMisguidedByTheScience · 19/06/2020 15:43

I could get Marcus Rashford's name right and not go for a drive to test my eyesight.

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