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"Dementors" and anti dementors are just as bad as each other

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Jingstohang · 19/06/2020 10:27

I'm sick of seeing the self righteous "anti dementors" calling others dementors because they want to stick to the guidelines/social distancing/not licking walls.

If you don't believe we should all be totally back to normal yet then you're attacked as a dementor.

I think there's a middle ground of being sensible, taking precautions and being aware there is still risk. But the anti- dementor crowd think that's being hugely negative and living in fear.

I'm sick of it. Both extremes are as bad as each other.

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TheCanterburyWhales · 19/06/2020 21:01

I'm sure, because MN doesn't allow troll hunting even when the hunted is a troll.
I wonder if your inference that I'm a troll would be seen as troll hunting?

TheCanterburyWhales · 19/06/2020 21:01

I wasn't aware you knew her in real life.

Drivingdownthe101 · 19/06/2020 21:02

I haven’t inferred anything. I asked if you were on the threads.

Bollss · 19/06/2020 21:05

Yeah, be kind went out of the window there didn't it. Everyone who took part in those threads ought to be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. I am worried about that poster as are a lot of the posters on the thread.

countrygirl99 · 19/06/2020 21:05

janicewebster I agree some people have had a very warped view of the rules but if you think that calling someone a selfish barstard when they are complying with them and calling is ok, well what can I say. You do you, eh.

Khione · 19/06/2020 21:08

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Jingstohang · 19/06/2020 21:13

@Drivingdownthe101

The worry is that she has had 2 previous suicide attempts, and no one has heard from her since the threads threatening to end her. Whatever her views, no one deserves that.
Was this poster floral?
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TheCanterburyWhales · 19/06/2020 21:14

Yes.

MagdaS · 19/06/2020 21:17

And I think that little exchange just proves our point. There is no nastiness like that on the threads at all.

MagdaS · 19/06/2020 21:19

And the fact that post has now been deleted yet our threads still stand despite the reports says it all really.

Mascotte · 19/06/2020 21:38

The horrible thread that really upset me was the one by a new mother struggling with no nice maternity leave outings and cuddles and the normal things, who was piled on to as a selfish witch. I think i turned to anti dementors then.

BogRollBOGOF · 19/06/2020 21:58

@TheCanterburyWhales

Ah. You recognised my description of her then? Good. Nasty selfish piece of work. And yes they did start like that. Absofuckinglutely.
That's hardly #bekind is it?

MNHQ have kept an eye on the threads and found precious little in breach of guidelines across about 14,000 posts. This thread has more deletions by page 8 than a 40 page anti-dementor thread and those deleted posts are not by anti-dementor thread posters. Ironic really.

Jingstohang · 19/06/2020 22:01

@TheCanterburyWhales

Yes.
I didn't realise she had left, the posts calling for her to be banned were out of order. You can disagree with people without being malicious.
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Jingstohang · 19/06/2020 22:21

MNHQ have kept an eye on the threads and found precious little in breach of guidelines across about 14,000 posts. This thread has more deletions by page 8 than a 40 page anti-dementor thread and those deleted posts are not by anti-dementor thread posters. Ironic really.

Theres 4 deletions, 2 by the same poster and one referencing a deleted post. It's hardly swiss cheese.

But as I've said 15 times it's the use of dementor off those threads that I find offensive. And there have been deletions of it too.

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Khione · 19/06/2020 22:40

@Jingstohang

MNHQ have kept an eye on the threads and found precious little in breach of guidelines across about 14,000 posts. This thread has more deletions by page 8 than a 40 page anti-dementor thread and those deleted posts are not by anti-dementor thread posters. Ironic really.

Theres 4 deletions, 2 by the same poster and one referencing a deleted post. It's hardly swiss cheese.

But as I've said 15 times it's the use of dementor off those threads that I find offensive. And there have been deletions of it too.

Regulars on the threads don't use it off the thread. When it is used on different threads it is, as far as I can be sure, used by others who have picked up on it. I haven't read all the threads because I steer clear of many so I can't guarantee it but I strongly doubt it.

The threads are welcoming to anyone who is struggling with the situation and especially if they are scared of being piled on or have already been piled on, on the main boards.

If anyone is feeling like that come and have a look.

Dowser · 19/06/2020 22:45

When we were evacuated from Tenerife, I wondered what sort of a country I had come back to as it didn’t seem like the one I’d left...just two weeks earlier.

It was still winter. Still cold and grey. People were stocking up on essentials and bog roll like we were about to enter a nuclear war.

Frankly, I was terrified. My mental health That I had managed to keep on an even keel since coming off Valium in 1977 and despite many awful things that had happened along the way , was seriously under threat .

Every day I woke with a sense of gloom and foreboding often began with tears. I couldn’t bear to watch the news, still couldn’t.

Me and dh, who wondered who this new creature he was living with was, made a decision That we were going to live our lives throughout this.

After surviving the sheer lunacy of Tenerife airport, sat cheek by jowl With At leat 3000 Other confused tourists of all nationalities where social distancing was a pipe dream and masks were non existent, not to mention the even closer quarters of being sat in a plane for 6 hours, yes an hour of that going nowhere on the tarmac, we were at far more risk of being ill or catching the disease There than driving to an empty beach, park , country park or whatever at home.

So that’s what we did.

We have done our own risk assessment. We haven’t been ill and neither have our families whom we have seen throughout. The only difference is we haven’t hugged.

Guess what..no one has been ill. Not even one sniffly little cold.

When I realised what the anti dementor thread was about, it was a relief to find like minded adults Who guess what, we’re doing their own risk assessments and like us..wanted to have a bit of joy in their lives. Not just see this scenario as a period of sheer misery.

We have supported one another. I hope by our little forays into the big wide world it might have helped someone to step outside their front door and realise the big bad wolf wasn’t waiting to get them.

My mental health is now as good as it was before this.
I still despair at what the future holds and hope we learn to live with these diseases..just like we did before.

I don’t want to see us live in a strange world where every stranger is a germ ridden infector.

I think what was done to the welsh and Scottish people has been criminal. I thinkNS and MD should be tried for crimes against humanity. I really do.
I think children have been chucked under a bus.
I think a lot of elderly and vulnerable people have been very inadequately supported
I think the lack of PPE in health settings has been abominable.

I’m shocked at the snitching and curtain twitching that has been going on on some threads. Adult children terrified to see their elderly, ill, lonely parents..For fear of being reported ...what sort of a society have we become.
People dying alone...or without a loved one near...my god..there’s going to be serious fallout over this one . I spent 10 years as a bereavement counsellor with Cruse..the queues are going to round the block when they reopen.

Just horrid! Horrid! Horrid.

Some people need to take a long, hard look at themselves at how they’ve abused their friends and neighbours and yes strangers on social media.

I believe It’s time to come together and move forward and build bridges.
We’ve been lied too, hoodwinked and massively abused by those in power on a scale that just takes your breath away.
We should not let them divide us like this.

We are more powerful than we think.

Jingstohang · 19/06/2020 22:46

I think what was done to the welsh and Scottish people has been criminal. I thinkNS and MD should be tried for crimes against humanity. I really do.

What?! Most people I know up here are happy to be in scotland because we have more of a chance with NS than Boris. Nothing has been done to us. What a bizarre suggestion.

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Jingstohang · 19/06/2020 22:48

Regulars on the threads don't use it off the thread.

I conceded that about 4 pages ago Wink

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iamapixie · 19/06/2020 22:51

@Dowser you're so right that as a population we should not allow ourselves to become so divided. And that's why the AD threads have been a genuine solace to many. It's not an echo chamber; it's just a place where strangers can have civilised, polite and kind discussions.

Dowser · 19/06/2020 22:57

Well im not going to turn this into a bunfight Jingsto
But praising your captors?

I give in, I really do.
I’m pleased you think they’ve kept you safe.

I Just wonder how much blood they have on their hands for suicides, severe mental health problems, domestic abuse and domestic violence.

. There’s a pile of stuff waiting to come out of the woodwork when all this returns to normal.

What do you think you have more of a chance of btw?

Bartlet · 19/06/2020 23:01

@dowser. Absolutely. Nicola Sturgeon has tried to terrify us into abiding by her bullshit regulations. It has all been about her. She has absolutely lapped up this whole Covid drama for her own political intentions.

Jingstohang · 19/06/2020 23:02

What do you think you have more of a chance of btw?

Decent leadership.

I dont want to get into it either. "Praising your captors" indeed.

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Dowser · 19/06/2020 23:04

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Jingstohang · 19/06/2020 23:05

@Dowser

I call it Stockholm syndrome Jingsto
Lovely.
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Dowser · 19/06/2020 23:06

Absolutely Bartlet
The pair of them have been on one huge ego and power trip.
I’m sorry they’ve pulled the wool over your eyes Jingsto
I’d never forgive either of them.

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