Churchill removed from Google

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But they've left Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini.

If you Google "British prime ministers" you'll get them all, along with images but Churchill's photo has been replaced with a holder (they've also forgotten his first term).

Google world war two leaders and Churchill's picture is still gone, but Hitler et al. are still up.

AIBU to think this is nuts?

Those search results are linked to Wikipedia. Wikipedia can be changed by anyone. There's every chance that his Wiki has been edited dozens of times over the last few days and a link has temporarily been broken.

Google say not deliberate on Twitter

There's every chance that his Wiki has been edited dozens of times over the last few days and a link has temporarily been broken.

That does seem much more likely.

I googled South African Prime Ministers and Cecil Rhodes is also missing...

This may be because he was never PM of South Africa, but hey, let's not quibble.

Off the point, but isn't "bepenised" an utterly ridiculous term? Are we all "bevulvaed" or "beuterused"?

Jesus wept, the title of this thread needs to be changed because it's NOT true...

Someone hasn't studied history any too closely
Lots of people haven't studied history very closely. It's embarrassing how little people know about their own country's history and how quickly they can fall into silos pushed by whichever group they listen to or who is shouting loudest. If more people understood history, they'd understand exactly the risks of relying upon a small, powerful, unelected elite for information. Moving to online sources makes people with no sense of history, vulnerable to manipulation. From the women killed results on Google to Twitter unilaterally deciding that sex isn't a protected characteristic so you can't report specifically for misogyny. All of it shapes how people think about issues if they prioritise online information over external sources.

People should make an effort to learn about their "heroes" warts and all.

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Totally agree and being half Irish, I am going to add this link to the warts and all truths about Churchill.

medium.com/@write_12958/the-crimes-of-winston-churchill-c5e3ecb229b3

'People should make an effort to learn about their "heroes" warts and all.'

I dont think anyone disputes his 'warts', like all figures from history he made mistakes and actions worthy of criticism, of course he did.

The point being his strategy in ww2 saved the UK from invasion and Nazi occupation and it is that he is is commemorated for.

I googled South African Prime Ministers and Cecil Rhodes is also missing...

This may be because he was never PM of South Africa, but hey, let's not quibble.

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this has to be one of my favourite posts ever

I’ve always sneered at the tin foil helmet conspiracy theorist brigade, but seeing this and the fact that books can be removed from Kindles and TV programmes can be removed from streaming services gives one pause for thought

There are different different issues. When you stream content you are only renting it. no differrent to going to Blockbusters of old - its up the the library owner to manage the catalogue.

When you buy DRM'd content you are effectively buying leasehold. You enjoy most of the benefits of owning but have restrictions (usually around sharing and a small chance of losing it if licence rules change). If you remove DRM after buying then you can store a copy as a back up and lend it to a friend or family member as you might a hard copy.

Searches coming back from search engines will depend on the algorithms of the search engine using a mix of your history, searches in your locale and a bunch of other factors. Like a PP I use DuckDuckGo as they have stricter privacy rules around usage of your history.

this has to be one of my favourite posts ever

Well these old white blokes, they all look the same don't they, so easy to mix them up.

Statues are put up to honour and glorify the people commemorated. They are literally there for people to look up to - inspirational role models, if you will. This is what people are upset about.

More awareness of history is needed, not less - hence the campaign for Black history to be included in the curriculum. Deleting the history or only highlighting the bits we like (e.g. Churchill was just a war-hero and ignoring his use of chemical weapons "against recalcitrant Arabs as an experiment" - his words: source) denies the truth and it is nonsense to link this glitch to BLM.

Google have literally released a statement saying whilst the pages that feed the image are being updated and curated, images disappear temporarily then get reinstated in the next update. It happens with every page. The right-wing paranoia is insane. There are still tens of thousands of images of Churchill for people to get hard over If they want to if they just click the google images tab about 3cm to the left.

anyoldlabour crimes of britain is part of an extremist group links with IRA and serbian nationalist nutcases. Half of that post are also complete lies, especially the bit about Greece (amazing that Irish Republicans would bring up the 2nd world war after their antics)

this link to the warts and all truths about Churchill
One extremely biased paper with highly selective quotations.
I started noting some of them but gave up. It's just too full of them. I wonder who wrote it? The accurate statement that Churchill hated communism might be a clue.

'anyoldlabour crimes of britain is part of an extremist group links with IRA and serbian nationalist nutcases.'

Well there's a surprise..

Nah no chance of the germans invading, then those awful far left antifas (Soviet Union) destroyed 80% of Germanys forces. Britain couldnt even build a decent fucking tank until 1944.

its weird as fuck really, can you imagine people making hate websites devoted to the history of other european countries?

nah leave the title, let people really see the influx of utter idiocy.

'its weird as fuck really, can you imagine people making hate websites devoted to the history of other european countries'

It is weird as fuck I agree. If Brits did it they'd be accused of racism, xenophobia, bigotry etc etc etc

Seems the gist is we need to 'educate ourselves' while everyone happily calls us 'priviliged supremacists' whilst using history as a big stick to beat us with.

Blimey, I've not been on MN very much at all for the last 3/4 years - can't believe the number of very obvious right wing trolls that have appeared on these talk pages.

MN can seem like a lovely little bubble of middle class pleasantness at times but I think the people who run it need to realise it's being targeting and act. It's a famously influential website and it's clearly been systematically targeted.

Honestly, just a quick look round these talk pages recently it's shocking and blatant. Not just MN, obviously, but perhaps bc this has a certain vibe and a certain image users might think it's immune....it certainly isn't.

Well Churchill, for all his faults, picked the right side in WW2, which is more than can be said for Eamonn De Valera who sent condolences on the death of Hitler but not for FDR.

We've had some beauties here and on other threads. My favourite is the one that says Shakespeare was not a racist because he copied it all from Persian sources. We also had several who appeared to think that in the 70s there was a racist comedian called Basil Fawly, who they cleverly insult by calling him Basil Faulty, who had his own TV show where he went around randomly insulting people, a bit like Mrs Brown's Boys but racistier.

Anyways, Rhodes was PM of Cape Colony, what is now Cape Provence in the RSA, before there was an RSA or a USA (Union of South Africa, founded in 1902.)

Cecil Rhodes was a racist. He believed it was the sacred destiny of the (white) English-speaking peoples to rule the world on behalf of Jesus. He established the Rhodes Scholarships to promote Anglo-American understanding.

So now we have African-Americans and black South Africans at Oxford courtesy of his generousity, how the old boy would have hated that, who want his statue down on principle but whose principles do not extend to paying back his bursaries or donating them to appropriate charities.

Yep its been discussed a bit, JandLand, even in the last few days. Really obvious its happening and especially blatant around november last year- people ending their bloody posts with 'vote conservative this thursday'(or whenever it was).

There was somebody else around the time it became clear how much the government had fucked up the pandemic would pop onto every government linked thread with 'stop talking about politics, its boring, nobody talk about it please'