Page 3 | Am I the only person who doesn't know any trans people?

LaureBerthaud · 2020-06-13T01:35:09+00:00

Non goady question. I don't know any, work with any or come across any trans people. Now it could be that they've done such a good job of transitioning that I don't notice, but where are they?

sleepydragons · 13/06/2020 06:57

I, unfortunately, know one and wish I didn't.

Justabadwife · 13/06/2020 07:00

My DP is trans MtF, a teenager that I've known since they were born is FtM trans. I work in a shop and there is a lovely older (70s) couple that come in to work one of them is trans MtF.
I am 95% certain that my SIL with come out as either non binary or FtM trans in the next year, im convinced she binds her boobs.
I see a few while at work, some pass some don't.
And I know 1 cross dresser (who is Deffo not a TW he just likes to wear dresses occasionally)

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 13/06/2020 07:07

I don't know any either.

Mummyoflittledragon · 13/06/2020 07:09

I do vaguely know a trans person actually. The driver, who sometimes delivers my Ocado Order...

sleepydragons · 13/06/2020 07:11

mummy we must live in the same place.
They weren't the one I referred to up thread though.

ahumanfemale · 13/06/2020 07:22

And I know 1 cross dresser (who is Deffo not a TW he just likes to wear dresses occasionally)

Sorry, that's exactly included in the definition of trans now. Sexual fetishes are just as valid as dysmorphia (maybe more so as it's anti trans to talk about dysmorphia...).

Phillip Bunce who wears dresses and makeup and heels and a wig a few days a week as "Pippa" won some Woman in the City award.

The Stonewall definition of trans is:
TRANS
An umbrella term to describe people whose gender is not the same as, or does not sit comfortably with, the sex they were assigned at birth.
Trans people may describe themselves using one or more of a wide variety of terms, including (but not limited to) transgender, transsexual, gender-queer (GQ), gender-fluid, non-binary, gender-variant, crossdresser, genderless, agender, nongender, third gender, bi-gender, trans man, trans woman,trans masculine, trans feminine and neutrois.

I am also trans according to this as I fit the "agender" definition. As are most of my middle aged female friends. But if there's one group that's not allowed to be trans, it's middle aged women, especially mothers!

But I'm to busy living my life than collecting badges. Got enough of them at brownies as a kid.

Acis · 13/06/2020 07:23

How are they gaining so much power and influence?

What power and influence?

TerrapinStation · 13/06/2020 07:23

@MumofBees

So many of you sound so hateful. I just don't get it. At the very least live and let live.

If there are any trans people reading this please know that you do have supporters.

I mustbe reading a different thread, I was actually a bit nervous to open it as I know this is an emotive issue but it's just sharing information.

Could you explain where the hate it?

Acis · 13/06/2020 07:24

I have dealt with a few over the years. They have universally been nice, gentle people who simply want to get on with living their lives in peace.

Quickerthanavicar · 13/06/2020 07:25

Maybe if people knew a person who is transexual they would be less judging on here.

Brimful · 13/06/2020 07:26

My 30 year old cousin was born female but is confused about her gender and has indicated she feels she may be trans.

She also has quite severe autism and is highly dependent (she could never live alone or have a job, it's as though shes around 12/13 years old).

She's told me she has always felt different to everyone (I've told her she's just extra awesome) and reading about trans has given her a 'reason' for feeling different. I worry she doesn't quite understand and has latched onto this in the social wave of it.

Hyperion100 · 13/06/2020 07:29

There are at least 3 trans people at my company. We even have some gender neutral loos

Fluffybutter · 13/06/2020 07:30

Nope , none

JacobReesMogadishu · 13/06/2020 07:32

@ahumanfemale

And I know 1 cross dresser (who is Deffo not a TW he just likes to wear dresses occasionally)

Sorry, that's exactly included in the definition of trans now. Sexual fetishes are just as valid as dysmorphia (maybe more so as it's anti trans to talk about dysmorphia...).

Phillip Bunce who wears dresses and makeup and heels and a wig a few days a week as "Pippa" won some Woman in the City award.

The Stonewall definition of trans is:
TRANS
An umbrella term to describe people whose gender is not the same as, or does not sit comfortably with, the sex they were assigned at birth.
Trans people may describe themselves using one or more of a wide variety of terms, including (but not limited to) transgender, transsexual, gender-queer (GQ), gender-fluid, non-binary, gender-variant, crossdresser, genderless, agender, nongender, third gender, bi-gender, trans man, trans woman,trans masculine, trans feminine and neutrois.

I am also trans according to this as I fit the "agender" definition. As are most of my middle aged female friends. But if there's one group that's not allowed to be trans, it's middle aged women, especially mothers!

But I'm to busy living my life than collecting badges. Got enough of them at brownies as a kid.

But what of the cross dresser in question doesn’t consider themselves as trans? Because I know a cross dresser who is vocally adamant he isn’t trans and I think he’s best placed to know.

Bluemoooon · 13/06/2020 07:32

I had a lecturer about 25 years ago. It made me realise that men and women walk and sit down in a chair differently. This was early days in his treatment to become female and although he dressed in skirts and had long flowing hair he clearly wasn't, being a lecturer I had plenty of time to study him.
Nice person and good lecturer, presumably living happily as a woman now.

Home42 · 13/06/2020 07:33

Not that I know of.

I too can’t see the hate here...

whiteroseredrose · 13/06/2020 07:35

Uni friends of DH had a son who started secondary school as a girl. Hormones but no surgery as far as we know. Now at Uni and very happy but no boyfriend on the scene which is not really surprising.

DD's school is a girl's school but have a couple of children who now present as boys. Hence they no longer say 'Good morning girls' in assembly. One of the teachers is MTF which I suspect is the real reason that the school suddenly became so 'woke'.

vanillandhoney · 13/06/2020 07:37

When I was in middle school we had a trans member of staff. Left one summer as Peter and returned in September as Paula. She actually got a lot of support from the the vast majority of the school.

TryingToBeBold · 13/06/2020 07:38

A friend of mine at work transitioned F-M
Before he was a very tomboy lesbian so the decision to transition hasn't made much of a difference. He still looks the same to a point? Has only shortened his name too. So hadn't really been a drastic change (to others.. not him obviously).

firstmentat · 13/06/2020 07:39

I was asked more than once whether I am a mtf trans. I am just not "pretty" and have quite a heavy jaw.

HelmutShmacker · 13/06/2020 07:39

Maybe you do but they just haven't said anything to you. Trans people don't have to disclose the fact they are trans to anyone. I know a man who used to be female, and if you met him for the first time you would literally never know.

ACNH · 13/06/2020 07:40

Not that I’m aware of.

I also see no hate here.

lilgreen · 13/06/2020 07:41

I don’t know any and I work in schools and have two teens, one at uni and they don’t know any either.

MarshaBradyo · 13/06/2020 07:41

Those tweets below are so awful,

No I don’t think I know anyone.

SerenDippitty · 13/06/2020 07:41

I know three adult m to f all of whom have transitioned fully. One of them it was over 30 years ago. They are just quietly getting on with their lives.