Am I the only person who doesn't know any trans people?

[LaureBerthaud]

Non goady question.

I don't know any, work with any or come across any trans people. Now it could be that they've done such a good job of transitioning that I don't notice, but where are they?

I don't know any that I'm aware of.

My 3 year old (male) likes sparkly clothes and sometimes chooses shoes that are marketed towards girls. That's because he's 3 and imho gender is an adult/social construct.

The reality is that given any kid can wear/do/love whatever they want whether male or female, I dont really see why theres a need for gender distinction at all in modern western society.

~Dons big girl pants and hard hat to prepare for inevitable battering from the woke crowd~

Well according to stonewall, I am trans as I am gender free / a gender. Because I don’t have a gender, only a sex. And I don’t identify as a woman, I just am one.

Much like many other posters on these boards.

I know a number of teenagers who identity as trans, they attend my children’s school. They are all girls - some are ‘alternative’ and One would have been seen as a butch lesbian 10 years ago. But of course now she’s now a trans Boy and fancies girls.

The school deal with this extremely well and haven’t insisted that these girls are allowed to shower and change with boys. Funnily enough.

And I also know two 20 something kids of friends . Both are XY people who believe they are XX. One is autistic and has recently decided he’s not trans, just a GNC man who is bi.

The other appears to have AGP - they Are very violent and angry and have tried to get lesbians thrown out of university where they study . They're filled with hatred towards all women, especially those who won’t have sex with them.

BTW they come from a perfectly normal functional family with two siblings who hold down good jobs and have happy lives. However the others are scared of their sibling and now have little to do with them. Their teenage years were destroyed By their siblings issues , they are very attention seeking.

I know another trans woman who is very angry and agressive . In fact this is what tipped me off that they were an XY person, as They very nearly pass. In a context where most of the women were troubled, this person stood out because of their anger and huge sense of entitlement.

I know two trans women In a business context, they are XY people in their 50s who do not remotely pass. I mention passing as the Op asked about - I am not suggesting that passing or otherwise is relevant to how the person feels or their own identity .

@NoIDontWatchLoveIsland 100% agree with you on that

I know of two trans boys/men.

One is a distant relative, I've not seen them in years.
The other is the child of an old school friend. I've not met the child or seen the friend in years.

We have a couple at school (teens) and you honestly wouldn't know.

I don’t.

But then I don’t actually know anyone, sadly so not a great example.

I know a few teenagers. Apart from that my only experience of trans people was being (verbally) attacked by one in a mixed changing room which was actually quite scary but I never bring it up usually as I know I would be told I was making it up or deserved it.

When I was younger I identified as a lesbian and 2 of the girls I had long term relationships with have in the past 5 years come out as transgender

There is one trans woman in our small town (there may be others who go about there lives and I haven't noticed) unfortunately they are the epitome of all the things that cause trans hate.

They had their children taken away and forcably adopted when they were a man so horrible rumours were already going around about the reasons for that and then after screaming all over the place about how social services "stole his children for profit" and getting no sympathy he decided he wanted be called by a woman's name and started flouncing about the town in Disney Princess dresses.

There was a massive hoo-ha because people in the town kicked off about them using ladies toilets but the local family orientated pub said they couldn't stop them.

They got a load of local primary school girls into their flat playing Ouija board one afternoon. There have also been parents raging on Facebook that they have been sending teenage girls weird messages on Facebook and trying to add them as friends.

They sometimes still present as a man and look very much like a man but report people to the police for hate crimes if they use the wrong pronoun. They posted a letter from the police absolutely livid because the police had said they wouldn't be perusing it.

Made themselves a YouTube channel reading perverted grown up bedtime stories.

Constantly post on local pages and their public Facebook/Instagram accounts about their painful periods and how they can't wait to give birth and topless squidging their chest together saying do you think my breasts have grown? Then shouting "TERF" "HATE CRIME" "TRANSPHOBIC" at anyone who says that giving birth is not possible or disagreeing in any way.

I probably sound like I made that up because it's so stereotypical of how some people see trans women but I promise I'm not. I think it's a shame that they have turned the town against them.
If they had just gone about their lives quietly most people wouldn't have batted an eyelid but flouncing about in an adult Elsa dress going on about their periods and trying to be friends with teenagers has really not helped them or the trans community.

However there is the issue of safe female only spaces.

I worked with a trans woman 20 years ago when I was a nurse . I could tell as soon as I saw her but none of the other staff noticed in the 2 years she worked with us . She didn't seem to know how to act as a woman though. She used to stand admiring herself in the patients bathroom, pushing her boobs up with her hands and pouting at herself . I love me who do you love ? 😂
The only person I told my thoughts to was my daughter , who also worked in the hospital , and when this woman admitted being trans it was to my daughter .
She then told our wash manager and I was the only one not surprised.
She had also told us that she left her husband because he beat her up but it turned out that she hadn't told him that she was trans when they got married. He beat her up when he found out !

I knew a TW ten years ago through a hobby group. Very gentle, not aggressive about pronouns or invading spaces, just wanted to live her life, same as everyone else. She also had SEVERE mental health issues, though and was clearly conflicted about her choice, always going off and on various treatments.

I always felt like she was really a shy gay man who couldn't come to terms with it.

I had a trans woman as my art teacher a last year. Excellent artist, was around my age so early fifties. Dressed and I will get lambasted for using this term but mutton dressed as lamb in clothes a teen would wear.

There was also a couple in my ballroom dancing class who were both women and but one self ID as a man and was introduced as my boyfriend. Looked like a lesbian couple to me, just made me fret about the erasure of lesbianism.

@RightOnTheEdge sadly I can well believe it.

No, I don't...some gay & lesbians friends but not trans or genderfluid or non identifying/binary. Thanks for all info posted...I feel quite uneducated on this topic & sometimes find generally that trying to become better educated & asking q's in that context can be perceived as ignorance & intolerance.

Three personally, all children (well, one is now over 18).
One boy aged 8 is concealing his sex and that's a paedophile's dream, a child with a secret.

*I am quite judgemental but then the one I know doesn't appear to be all that genuine because firstly they decided they were trans, then they decided it was too much hassle and so decided to ignore it, then they told their wife they weren't going to have treatment until they had had children and now they have told their wife they are pressing ahead with treatment no matter what their wife feels.

I feel fairly justified in judging them.*

I'm sorry but no you aren't justified in judging an entire group of people based on ONE bad example. That's ridiculous, imagine if someone said the same thing about black people? Or gay people? Or any other group that are often descriminated against. You don't like trans people, which is your choice to make but don't try and claim you are justified because of the one trans person you know

I don't know any, I've seen a couple around but a good 10 years or more ago.

I'm sorry but no you aren't justified in judging an entire group of people based on ONE bad example.

She said the ONE she knows! FFS when will people learn to read or do you just want an arguenemt and to attack people whether it's warranted or not?

I feel fairly justified in judging them.
Surely it's them to avoid saying him or her - not the whole of the transgender community. Or that's how I read it.

Urgh the bold isn't working. Anyways, I agree with others that there is hate on here. No it isn't an obvious in your face way, it's the general undertone of posts that you can sense it. It's hard to prove which the posters know. I wonder in what faith the OP created this thread....

I know 6. All teens.

@Bluemoooon considering that poster said they "unfortunately knows one" I suspect they are judging the community but as she has now been called out I'm sure she will backtrack and claim she was only judging the one person she knew...

@Cam2020

I'm sorry but no you aren't justified in judging an entire group of people based on ONE bad example.

She said the ONE she knows! FFS when will people learn to read or do you just want an arguenemt and to attack people whether it's warranted or not?

Except its her response to people being judgmental of the community. I'm not out for an argument, I responded based on how her reply read.