To feel sorry for woman who believe their lip fillers make them more attractive??

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It’s not really AIBU as it’s my opinion but anyway...

I was at work yesterday and a young woman came in and clear as day had lip fillers. I was looking thinking , I can not understand why people pay to have this done. It looks awful.

You can tell straight away that they’ve had fillers

I assume slightly enhancing them can be a positive in some cases, but some just go too far until they look like comedy lips and over do it.

I was just looking thinking, I bet that woman looked more appealing and attractive to the average person with her own, natural lips!

I felt sorry for her that she was thinking that would make her more attractive....

I dread my DD growing up seeing these imagines and finding them beautiful.

**To those who are saying whatever makes them happy, they might find it beautiful etc., our notions of what constitutes beauty are heavily influenced by what we see around us. Influencers promote a particular 'look' as an idealised form of the human face, emphasising full lips and a tapered nose. It's sad that many young women spend thousands to achieve this look, simply because they have been fed a notion that this is what it is to be beautiful and they don't feel they conform to this notion.

This article outlines the issue of wanting to achieve the 'look' well**

www.newyorker.com/culture/decade-in-review/the-age-of-instagram-face

@Disregard

What disregard says....

Have you seen Madonna's face? Yuck , fillers in her lips, cheeks, everywhere, she'd look 10 times better with a few natural lines

It might be more worthwhile to hope that the need for women to put down other women based on the looks phase is over before your daughter grows up. You are in a dwindling minority group and might find the right level of conversation on the MRA forums.

I'm always reminded of that awful 1990s kids TV programme the Riddlers when I see women with obvious and excessive lip fillers.

The skin around the mouth almost always looks different somehow if the lips have been done. I can't describe it but that's always the tell tale sign for me, unless it's obvious.

That and the side profile and moustache shadow as someone else mentioned!

[quote Disregard]To those who are saying whatever makes them happy, they might find it beautiful etc., our notions of what constitutes beauty are heavily influenced by what we see around us. Influencers promote a particular 'look' as an idealised form of the human face, emphasising full lips and a tapered nose. It's sad that many young women spend thousands to achieve this look, simply because they have been fed a notion that this is what it is to be beautiful and they don't feel they conform to this notion.

This article outlines the issue of wanting to achieve the 'look' well:

www.newyorker.com/culture/decade-in-review/the-age-of-instagram-face[/quote]
Yes, the cost is another issue. It costs a frigging fortune to be a young woman now. So much more than when I was one in the 90s, and you were high maintenance if you had anything more than the occasional wax.

@CrazyToast The poster who put up a picture of two sets of lips admitted that she thought hers looked natural and probably wasn't expecting everyone to be able to tell the filled lips. There is a 'look' that filler gives. ( They are not awful looking lips by any means, I don't want the poster to think I'm having a go, I'm just using that post as an example)

As with most ridiculous fads, these women will look at their pictures in a few decades time and cringe, along with others.

CourtneyLurve StarScream22 AnnieCartwright and others who insist that filled lips/botox is always obvious - you only notice the obvious ones. Clearly, unless someone tell you, you would never know if the person in the room with you/next to you/in the queue behind you/serving you in the shop has had work done if it is not obvious. Countless people no doubt have had work done but you wouldn't know as it has been done subtly. You would just assume they had natural lips But then you see the obvious ones and decide ALL work is obvious

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Pic 1 defo fillers as they have that sort swollen reaction thing.

Pic 2 would say 99% no but sometimes you need to see them in motion.

I have fairly full lips & they are similar sizes too & bottom with no real cupid's bow so can look fake in a photo however they change in motion if that makes sense & look different depending on my expression if that makes sense.

Yep you can spot them at 100 paces. Most don’t look ‘prettier’ they just look like they’ve ‘had their lips done.’ It can look good in photos but in real life it can make faces look a bit distorted.

Bj lips.

On the upside though if there’s a shortage of clowns they could apply for the job and wouldn’t need much make up.

It might be more worthwhile to hope that the need for women to put down other women based on the looks phase is over before your daughter grows up. You are in a dwindling minority group and might find the right level of conversation on the MRA forums.

Ohh Lemon....

Being worried about the way women are ‘trained’ to idealise a certain look, in order to be perceived as more attractive, is not criticising women!!

it’s highlighting the sad way in which women are constantly under pressure to conform to a ‘norm’

I can be worried about the impact of my child and other young women enticed to fill they’d lips with chemicals to get the ideal look of ‘beautiful’.

I can also say that I think it looks awful. I can also say that I think they would look much nicer without following that trend!

Its sad that people dislike their looks to the extent that they feel the need to go to those lengths but that isn't for me to decide. As women we need to support each other. Not bitch about changes we've made to our looks to get the confidence we need in ourselves.

I think it very tricky balance tbh. People die & get into debt for cosmetic surgery & I'm not always sure that the change yourself for more confidence is the best mantra.

They do look ridiculous but I wonder why they do it, it makes them stand out and more people are likely to judge? Maybe part of it is a "fuck you" to society?

It’s not about critical to women it’s about being worried about why they feel the need to do this!

Picture 2 - without. There is no pout thing, either.

I didn’t cheat.

I don't like the look, also I find it weird that all the glamour models have it done and many celebs, but not fashion models. I just feel like it makes them all look generic and samey.. I work in fashion and have never seen anyone with lip fillers in my industry..

of course there may be many that have had it done but in a natural and unnoticeable way, we'd never know, would we?

There are some that are incredibly subtle. But obviously the most visible ones aren't going to look good.

I think you only notice the horrific ones - when they end up with a turned up ridge.

Some people have fab lip fillers. Look at Kate Lawler. She had no top lip and hers look great now and natural.

*I watched a documentary about cosmetic surgery and more than one person mentioned that the visible appearance of having work done was also slightly important as it meant people knew that they had the means to spent money on expensive luxuries.

Bit like the facial equivalent of an very expensive handbag emblazoned with logos*

But surely work you can tell is 'work' is a job poorly done? So it's a bit like making sure your handbag is an Aldi carrier bag, so people know you can afford the cheapest product available?

Women have always had trends that do nothing for them.
I don’t think it’s about looking good but about looking a certain way that is fashionable.

However the pulling other women’s looks apart thing is the other side of the same coin. Women wouldn’t comment if they didn’t rate appearance as of having some importance.

Also what makes them noticeable to me is that filled up lips lose any creases, they look stretched, natural lips have more creases

Yy to the shadow moustache, it's a dead giveaway.

I also wonder about the lips when people stop, is all the skin stretched out and baggy without filler?

See now OP, if you were talking about tattoos you'd have your arse handed to you.

But, as it's lip-fillers, fair game eh?

I don't have them, no tattoos either but why do you and others feel the need to comment so spitefully on what other women do? Dressing it up as 'opinion' doesn't cut it really either.