To feel sorry for woman who believe their lip fillers make them more attractive??

[Starcup]

It’s not really AIBU as it’s my opinion but anyway...

I was at work yesterday and a young woman came in and clear as day had lip fillers. I was looking thinking , I can not understand why people pay to have this done. It looks awful.

You can tell straight away that they’ve had fillers

I assume slightly enhancing them can be a positive in some cases, but some just go too far until they look like comedy lips and over do it.

I was just looking thinking, I bet that woman looked more appealing and attractive to the average person with her own, natural lips!

I felt sorry for her that she was thinking that would make her more attractive....

I dread my DD growing up seeing these imagines and finding them beautiful.

It's just a look. Like the 80s. Appalling and makes you look terrible but you'll probably only see that in retrospect.
The botox/fillers that aim to reduce age related changes are different to the look op is talking about I think? That's a look that wants you to notice the fillers. Some of my friends have had great botox/fillers. Others got a bit carried away. They look weird rather than young. But noone says anything. What can you say?

@Bertucci

I think you only notice the horrific ones - when they end up with a turned up ridge.

Some people have fab lip fillers. Look at Kate Lawler. She had no top lip and hers look great now and natural.

Just googled - no she does not look natural in the least! I think she looked a lot nicer before.

@LyingWitchInTheWardrobe

I get that it doesn't make sense to you, Starcup, why would it? I mean, you're the one who started quite a mean-spirited thread, doing a volte face about half-way through to put a different slant on it.

Look at the posters who have called this work 'looks shit' 'fake' , 'tarty' (and that was at a child, ffs). That's what these threads always achieve. It wasn't laudable, calling-out the pressure that women are under to meet certain 'standards'; there are a few posters on the thread though who have said that, they always do and good on them. The rest are doing exactly what I believe the intention was.

I'll leave you to it now. As you say, you have the right to blurt out whatever opinion you have. So do I, I've said what I think and I've nothing else to add. I loath threads like this.

@LyingWitchInTheWardrobe is right as usual.

Christ, women are awful to each other.

I know someone who has had them done and they look great. You'd never know she has fillers. They will always be swollen at first and noticeable but once they settle down they can look very natural if done well.

HotSince, filled or not, they look lovely. I think some people are just loving to find the fault with anything they don't agree.

People always say you can tell. I've posted mine before and would say it was 50/50 on whether people were right or not

When we say 'it's up to them' or even 'why are these women doing this?' We're supposing complete and real choice in the matter. The reality is that these choices are not made in a vacuum: women are still mostly valued for their appearance over anything else.
We all succumb to this pressure a bit, don't we? I know I do. The problem here is how important women's looks are over everything else. I can't blame or be nasty to young women feeling they need to look this way, or older women anxious they've 'lost it' when everywhere the message is that our looks are so important.

I think they look rediculous.

@QueenCT

People always say you can tell. I've posted mine before and would say it was 50/50 on whether people were right or not

They definitely have the outer line around the lips that makes it look like they have been filled. It's possible you have that look naturally but if so you have natural lips that look filled

@Fluffycloudland77

Yes, it looks awful and everyone who has it done comes out with the same shite “you wouldn’t know”.

It’s like colouring your hair blonde, you can kid yourself it looks natural but don’t try and convince everyone else.

I blame Facebook and Instagram. Peoples friends telling them what they want to hear. There’s nothing else you can do though.

Hmm disagree with the blonde thing only because my mum dyed her hair from basically black to blonde years ago, she's now been blonde for about 15 years and everyone is always gobsmacked when they see a picture of her with her natural hair. They can't believe she isn't a natural blonde. She just suits being blonde.

There are lots of people you can tell with though I agree.

@HotSince82

Ok I really don't think mine look like filler.

Hit me vipers

Yes they do.

@Starcup

Would you say these lips have been filled? Late 30’s female

100% been filled.

Filler that appears OK in a photo is glaring when you talk and eat.

@HotSince82 Very they are noticeable.
My niece looked awful like a duck for 6 months, she went from thin lip to massive fillers now they've gone down still big compared to her old lips they're perfect now. She prefers them huge.

@Starcup nope. Don’t think they’ve been filled.
The problem is when the edge has too much filler, it curls up unnaturally and gives a weird bulky pout.

Haven’t read the full 13 pages.
Mind your own business and let people do what they are doing as long as it doesn’t affect you.
Again, mind your own business

Wow, people are really touchy about this. Saying you don't like lip fillers is nowhere near the same as bullying someone for having thin lips. You don't have to wear fillers, anyone who does chose too.

Surely it's a compliment to say people look better natural

Anyway, fillers really don't look right a lot of the time. Naturally fully lips just sit differently on your face, the side profile looks different etc

Some are well done, I'm sure, but many aren't. Sorry.

My friend had lip fillers but didn't tell anyone as I guess she was hoping it looked natural.
I'm hearing impaired so rely a lot on lip reading and noticed instantly.
They didn't look bad or anything but I had learned to read her lips they way they were before and lip fillers change the way the words look (if that makes sense?) so it was really obvious to me.
But I guess I do study mouths a lot more intently than the average person so I would notice any changes.

I'll tell you how I realised its got out of hand- I saw a photo of leslie ash after she had that bad surgery and it didnt look so crazy anymore

We'll all be wearing masks soon so it will have been a waste of money anyway.

@EmperorCovidula

YABU. I don’t like the over filled look myself but it’s better than thin lips or lips that have gone empty with age. I fully intend to get mine filled when the time comes.

I disagree. What's wrong with thinner or older lips? Why are they worse than over filled ones? And why do women feel under such intense pressure to look a certain way? That's the tragedy at the centre of this.

@ToDoListAddict

My friend had lip fillers but didn't tell anyone as I guess she was hoping it looked natural. I'm hearing impaired so rely a lot on lip reading and noticed instantly. They didn't look bad or anything but I had learned to read her lips they way they were before and lip fillers change the way the words look (if that makes sense?) so it was really obvious to me. But I guess I do study mouths a lot more intently than the average person so I would notice any changes.

I would certainly expect a lip reader to notice!

I don't really know about lip fillers, not something I've ever had an interest in. Unless it was very badly done, I doubt I'd notice if anyone I knew did it. These games where you show people pictures of mouths and ask if they're done aren't really fair because now people are primed to look for it. If you just passed me or had a conversation with me and I wasn't thinking about it, I doubt I'd notice it.

It's all beside the point of this being a really spiteful and mean-spirited OP, though.

Filler that appears OK in a photo is glaring when you talk and eat.

Exactly this! Often I have seen photos of celebrities and haven't given it a thought but then I see them on a chat show and know that they've had fillers. Not because I knew what they looked like before but that their mouth doesn't move normally.

For the record I have huge lips. Was teased & called fish lips at school. So I don’t know what it’s like to have small lips. But I do think this looks terrible & like your lips are going to burst.

I find with cosmetic procedures becoming so mainstream and many young girls getting procedures that I struggle to tell how old young women are & some of these women will say they are in early 20s and am shocked because I would think they were a decade older.

But this usually speaks to an overall look/style which to me personally looks unattractive.

As your amazing makeup artist Robert Welsh has taught us is that we have unique beauty in our faces. We all seem to want to look like a Kardashian family member. Beauty is about your uniqueness to me & playing up your features, not trying to turn yourself into somebody else.

To anyone saying I am gloating about my big lips the ones on my undercarriage also oversized & Well within the realms of requiring corrective surgery to reduce.

So maybe there is a correlation all you thin lipped ladies don’t get chafed & pinched down there !

Not read all the thread.
I was looking at an old school photo on facebook the other day. Early 80s and we were probably 13/14. It was noticeable how different we looked. All shapes and sizes, hairstyles long and short, curly and straight. Quite a few obvious home perms too . All looked their ages.
Fast forward 20 odd years looking at ds1's class photo and there's a certain look on all the girls, no funky short hair styles, quirkiness, just long hair, glamorous, perfect looking. Most looked a couple of years older. Just thought it was quite sad really.