To think that Emma Watson is no feminist

[HermioneWeasley]

So after JKR published her incredibly powerful essay and disclosed being a survivor of domestic abuse and sexual violence, Emma decides to tweet that trans women are women. Emma doesn’t condemn the misogynist abuse and threats of sexual violence that JKR has received, nor is she concerned about the facts JKR has shared of an over 4000% increase in girls being referred to gender clinics, or how autistic girls are disproportionately represented.

What is Emma’s “feminism” for exactly?

Emma Watson is actually a great feminist. I'd suggest people look at the speech she gave at the United Nations 2014 HeForShe campaign. Its 5 years old but I think the message is still relevant.

Sadly, I expect I will shortly be flamed for this.

What kind of feminist wades in on a discussion like this, but makes no comment on the sexually aggressive threats and bullying responses to Rowling's account of her abuse?

Previously I was very much in favour of Emma Watson but she’s just proved herself to be pandering to the patriarchy as much as a mra.

Male bodied people demand access to all women’s spaces, to erase the word woman and take over the meaning of what it means to be a woman to suit them, and scream rape threats at any woman who dares to suggest there are things which need discussion.

That’s just the patriarchy in a dress.

There's a hashtag trending "we are not confused", with young people with autism speaking out against JKR. As an example, a young woman showing photos of herself with and without makeup saying "Whether I’m feeling masc or femme, it doesn’t change my gender. As much as JKR wants to think I’ve been coerced or preyed upon, she’s wrong, transphobic and ableist."
The whole hashtag seems to highlight that they have been confused by the dogma that your presentation defines your sex. I think I'd be confused to if I'd been through the same indoctrination.

Another young woman saying that it took to her twenties to realise that she wasn't broken because her parents wanted her to be a girl "which I'm not" - picture of lovely young woman with short hair. There truly seems to be actual confusion that short hair equals "not a woman/girl"

@ShebaShimmyShake

What kind of feminist wades in on a discussion like this, but makes no comment on the sexually aggressive threats and bullying responses to Rowling's account of her abuse?

I agree with this.

She's a maninist. "Women can do and say whatever they want so long as no males disapprove". How very radical

She would have told the suffragettes to 'just ask nicely' too. Lots of women at the time did.

What HappyMeal said: Her feminism is the brand that centres men.
I could cry. I am also so angry to see young male actors distance themselves from her. Take a fucking seat. Listen.

@ShebaShimmyShake

What kind of feminist wades in on a discussion like this, but makes no comment on the sexually aggressive threats and bullying responses to Rowling's account of her abuse?

What kind of person does that never mind whether she's a feminist or not.

She would have told the suffragettes to 'just ask nicely' too. Lots of women at the time did

Wonder how they pay was fir her films compared to male co stars....

Wonder what she will say when shes declared too old to play a 65 year old leading man girlfriend and gets little bit the odd playing a grandma role when she hits 40.

Course she wont fall foul of the same.Hollywood sexism cos shes being nice to the men now

I think Emma believes herself to a feminist.

However she is advocating for the dilution and removal of women's rights. She backs a movement that centres males and is anti scientific. She raises up a charity that is steeped in harmful, sexist stereotypes.

No, she may be a nice young woman but she ain't no feminist.

You don't own the label feminism or get to dictate as to who is and isn't a feminist. Hth.

You don't own the label feminism or get to dictate as to who is and isn't a feminist. Hth.

No, the definition of feminism - 'the belief that women should be allowed the same rights, power, and opportunities as men' - defines who is or isn't a feminist. You can't be a feminist whilst advocating for women's rights to be ceded to male-bodied people.

Hth.

"...distance themselves from JKR ", that should say.

You don't own the label feminism or get to dictate as to who is and isn't a feminist. Hth.

Do I get to own a dictionary and dictate the literal meaning of the word?

Her feminism is typical woke virtue signalling that is sadly endemic in the under 30s.

It’s so sad and our foremothers would turn in their grave.

Do I get to own a dictionary and dictate the literal meaning of the word?

Nope. No books for women. It'll give them ideas...

In the same vein, Emma, what about women, who are being told that they are not women but are being instead asked to stand aside for men to purport womanhood. I refuse to be told to refer to myself as cisgender. I am a woman. I was born with female gametes and female chromosomes

I loved this response to her on Twitter.

I'm shocked that people who actually know jk Rowling are taking the time to post about trans rights, instead of offering support for her domestic and sexual assault. Or at least providing support whilst still showing they believe twaw. At least Redmayne and radcliffes posts were prior to jk rowlings main post. Emma Watson is definitely not a feminist, but also not a very nice person.

Emma Watson and Bonnie Wright, Daniel Radcliffe too, they make me absolutely cringe. All extremely mediocre actors who got very, very, very lucky. None of them would be a famous actor today, probably not even a lesser-known actor, if it hadn't been for one JK Rowling. Completely deluded, all 3 of them. Emma Watson is like an annoying head girl who inexplicably has been given a world stage. All thanks to JK Rowling. She reeks of emotional immaturity.

Still waiting to hear what makes Emma a feminist.

Her feminism is typical woke virtue signalling that is sadly endemic in the under 30s.

Don't generalise the under 30s just because you disagree with some of their opinions. It doesn't help anyone and incredibly judgmental.

Emma Watson is actually a great feminist. I'd suggest people look at the speech she gave at the United Nations 2014 HeForShe campaign. Its 5 years old but I think the message is still relevant.

I heard it at the time and thought back then that it was extremely shallow. I can recognise a branding exercise and self-serving career move when I see them. I really dislike celebrity “feminism” and find it actively harmful. Women like Watson cynically and for their own self-benefit take up political space that is desperately needed by and for countless women who don’t have the myriad privileges that they do. Why would I want to hear from a woman who lives in a Hollywood bubble when I could hear from someone who has a professional background in, say, overseas aid and women’s empowerment, or a woman who has direct experience of living in a refugee camp, or whatever? And I suspect those who would rather listen to Watson than the latter are not interested in such issues, and are not likely to become so. I’m afraid that society is coming to the end of its collective tether with the privileged celebrity class, and these people risk causing a backlash against the very groups that they claim to speak for.

Some please tell us exactly what JKR said that was shit and/or wrong?And perhaps someone can tell me what other groups of people feminism should be inclusive of if we're adding TW to the list. Hey, we should add, like, every body then we can be super inclusive

If your feminism doesn't centre the rights and liberty of biological women, even those whose opinions you disagree with, it's absolutely not feminism.

As a side observation there are a few familiar posters popping up on this thread predictably telling us all off and not one has seems to have even attempted to discuss and empathise with concerns about women's rights which have been raised for their consideration on other thread in the last few days. Some of you really don't give a shit about actual women's rights.

Emma is a total hypocrite. She went off on a feminist rant just before Beauty and the Beast was released. I watched it expecting it to have been modernised to reflect 20th Century females but alas no. It was the same saccharin beautiful girl meets prince and lives happily ever after in a big castle. What a joke.