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To think erasing monuments and blackface doesn't help solve the race issue at all?

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GinDaddyRedux · 11/06/2020 05:42

I will try and keep this brief but I am getting increasingly furious (not overstatement) at the typical kneejerk, self-serving, virtue signalling nonsense I am seeing around race in the UK, in response to the protests following the death of George Floyd in the United States.

For context, I am a mixed race (black Afro-Caribbean/white) male who grew up in London around great people, knowing and looking up to a lot of the chaps whose fathers came off the Windrush or came in the 60s and 70s to work in London on transport etc. I feel a real connection to the islands as a heritage, but have always been fervently British as it's the only home I've known since birth.

Here's the thing that I find ridiculous. Why, just why are we now spending so much time and effort going through every public monument and reference to colonialism or slavery, and every instance of blackface or other comedy on TV, and erasing them from view as some sort of panacea that will solve the race issue? When there are vital social issues that need addressing that will help black people far quicker and more fundamentally then dealing with blackface?!

I thought Little Britain was hilarious. I think every character was a fantastic send-up of modern British sterotypes. And for modern British stereotypes to actually work, you need black people funnily enough. So I have no problems with the premise. Going further - to indicate a black person on screen, there's only a few ways to go about it, and considering how Lucas and Walliams are the authors of all their characters, it was going to be necessary for them to do something.

Who on earth then considers it helpful to the race relations debate in this country, to remove something from public viewing, that is perfectly within the licence of art and comedy, and which I doubt has been named in the list of influential factors around race that lead to black men's deaths in police custody?

Similarly, we seem to now be forensically combing our civic institutions, universities, libraries, consecrated places, and checking whether any of the statues, bequests, named buildings are connected to slavery.

It's the sort of handwringing, worthy effort that I expected, because it makes people feel they are doing something. It makes for nice headlines and distracts from the real issues that actually need addressing.

Namely, if governments want to help black people, start with the environment some of us (not all!) grow up in. Look at the structural things in terms of poverty, lack of access to resources, deprived areas, parental structures, health services, and see where this tends to lead to.

Then look at the number of convictions for police who have been brought to trial for the wrongful death of a black person in custody. You'll be looking for a long time.

The reactions to the protests are typical of British leaders who look for low-hanging fruit and public headlines over anything more fundamental. We are a more inclusive country than we are given credit; when writing this I was reminded of how South Asian friends of mine were laughing at the character of Taaj from "Come Fly With Me", stating Lucas' accent and slang was eerily spot on for a Midlands Asian chap. There's a great British tradition that if folk are openly and happily taking the piss out of you, it means you're a mate. That sketch was definitely in that spirit.

I just feel that yes, little things and perceptions around race matter. But to cleanse our streets of statues won't change the fundamental destinations and outcomes for black men and women in the UK. It will just make (largely white) councillors, politicians and leaders feel better. And that's what this is always about in the end.

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midgebabe · 13/06/2020 11:42

If society was more equal then perhaps desirable and attainable would be more closely aligned

Mittens030869 · 13/06/2020 11:42

*I would much rather recognise poor history and do something more proactive to deal with the still very serious issue of trafficking we have in the U.K.

I know we recognise now how abhorrent it is and that's why it's illegal.

But it's still far to prevelant.*

That's my concern, too. I'm involved with a charity that raises awareness about women and girls who are trafficked and then forced into prostitution. And trafficked into hard labour, many of them in this country.

Focusing on the historical slavery of black people and the evils of colonialism is very important, obviously. But we really must keep in mind that it's still happening today, and to many black people as well.

It's illegal but it's still happening.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 13/06/2020 11:45

@midgebabe

If society was more equal then perhaps desirable and attainable would be more closely aligned
Exactly. But that involves tackling much more than racism.
RosesandAnts · 13/06/2020 11:51

@hamstersarse I apologise, I misread your comment. I read it as people losing empathy causing people to move to the far right, hence my comment. I see nothing wrong with moving to the right infact it’s all personal perception of what is right. Perhaps losing empathy is a rather misguided word. Very grounded in feelings of supremacists. White people losing their empathy for black people who have endured and sustained racism and oppression caused by them. That’s the height of white priviledge.

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