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You're white you cannot experience racism 3

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PatricksRum · 06/06/2020 12:28

And it continues. Thank you for those black people who took the time to share their stories once again.

@Whataloadofshite @BeforeIPutOnMyMakeup @CandyLeBonBon @WokeUpSmeltTheCoffee
Thank you all.

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PatricksRum · 06/06/2020 14:39

Some very patronising stuff about the OP getting some rest and sure she will feel better about racism afterwards. Also the occasional gentle reminder that it is whites who hold the power and if they don't like what she's saying, nothing will change.

I find it hard to disagree with this.
It's true. But it shows how ingrained it is that my first response is to thank. Or maybe I'm just tired

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PatricksRum · 06/06/2020 14:40

I don't need your sympathies OP...but thank you anyway
Oh, you do.
The only thing worse than being oppressed and racially abused is having white supremecy and using it to ridicule the oppressed.

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MadgeMak · 06/06/2020 14:41

It's not complicated, and it doesn't need three threads to prosecute.

It wouldn't still be going over three threads if there weren't certain individuals determined to prove the OP wrong.

PatricksRum · 06/06/2020 14:41

Bollocks. White people Get ridiculed too.
It ain't about what tiny grievances white people face.
Three threads on ffs

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PatricksRum · 06/06/2020 14:43

I don’t think people care about their lives or the lives of their families if they are willing to gather in crowds.

I'll repost
in a capitalist society obsessed with materialism looting is one of the most powerful forms of protest

Please don't act like white people haven't been breaking rules for weeks.

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PatricksRum · 06/06/2020 14:43

Obama isn’t white.
Swear down?

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WorraLiberty · 06/06/2020 14:44

You can take it how you want OP but when you posted...

I know I know I know Sad
I have a chronic illness which is made worse by the heat. I'm currently laid in bed shivering with the fan on whilst trying not to vomit.
It's partly my sleeping pattern and partly my enthusiasm. I'm somehow managing to entertain my toddler whilst fighting. No idea honestly. I do need to rest

And I replied...

In that case I'd honestly stop, especially if you have a toddler to look after.

You might feel better when you get some proper rest Thanks

I meant it genuinely. Now someone has stirred the shit by pretending I was saying you'll feel better about racism, you seem to have taken my reply a different way.

Your prerogative of course.

PatricksRum · 06/06/2020 14:44

@PanicOnTheStreets85 No, there is. I don't want to attack the wrong person and shy them away when they're helping.

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LoseLooseLucy · 06/06/2020 14:45

Perfectly clear Worra.

WorraLiberty · 06/06/2020 14:46

Thank you LoseLooseLucy

PatricksRum · 06/06/2020 14:52

PatricksRum the problem with these threads are you cannot actually debate very well
The irony is I can. That's what I do.
This is different however. I'm not debating a topic. I'm trying to convince people to stop racially abusing me.
I agree I haven't always articulated myself well, and that isn't the norm. The reason for this is I'm tired of repeating myself.

so though although you has some really valid points to make you seem to frequently either misunderstand or alternatively choose to misinterpret what others are saying.
That's not true at all.

Add to that the fact that you think that by starting a thread you somehow retain ownerrship of the content or that you are in charge of what people can and cannot post and a bunfight is inevitable. Never said that. I've stated that it belongs to the Internet. I'm not an idiot. I posted on a public forum. This could be reposted anywhere on the Internet. I don't control that.
It doesn't stop it being my thread.
It doesn't stop me politely asking people to refrain from interacting with certain posters who are preventing the point from coming across deliberately.

It's a public forum you cannot tell people that they are using the 'wrong' definition of racism or that x or y is irrelevant.
Yes I can. Public forum or not. You've contradicted yourself.

All anyone is doing is posting their views from their perspective and in some cases using facts and data to back that up or dispute the views of others.
Not true. Posting whataboutery isn't disputing views, it's making it about them.

You make massive generalisations and expect them to go unchallenged but then respond angrily if other posters do the same.
No. White people made massive generalisations when they abused us based on our skin colour. It's not incorrect for me to use the tools white people have given me.

You have spent 2 threads talking about how it isn't your job to help or educate people but at the same time you start this thread by doing exactly that, it is hard to understand what you are trying to communicate if you contradict yourself.
It's really not. It isn't my duty to educate white people, that still remains. The fact I've chosen to do so time and time again is something I should be thanked for.
Picking up other people's litter isn't my duty but doing it isn't contradicting that point.

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PatricksRum · 06/06/2020 14:53

@MarshaBradyo
Thank you.

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PatricksRum · 06/06/2020 14:54

@WorraLiberty if it's genuine then thank you for your concern.
DC is still awake switching the fan on island mode 🙄so awake I remain

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lemonsandlimes123 · 06/06/2020 14:55

Thank you for illustrating my point perfectly.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 06/06/2020 14:55

A traveller could alter their attire and they wouldn't face prejudice. (I'm not saying they should have to)

This just simply isn't true. People from the Traveller community will be turned away, and frequently are. Whole towns and cities in the UK have orders that prohibit Travellers from pitching up. When they do they usually have only a couple of days before court orders are obtained and the police and bailiffs turn up to evict them - now say they aren't victims of racism op? Black people are not routinely evicted within 48 hours in the UK are they?

A traveller could walk into a restaurant without being turned away because of their skin colour.

Well, they could very well be turned away if the restaurant decides they don't want to accommodate members of the traveller community. Is it based on skin colour, no, but it's based on race. Which makes it racist.

Equally, your statement says that
a traveller could walk into a restaurant without being turned away because of their skin colour - well yes and so can black people, and that's absolutely how it should be.

Missushbb · 06/06/2020 14:56

What about Irish and Scottish people?

Moondust001 · 06/06/2020 14:57

Lecture people long enough and it is irrelevant what you say, or whether you are right or wrong. It isn't heard. There is only so much "it's all your fault" that people can take before they tune out. This is not changing anything for black people or white people or any other colour of people. The thread is pointless.

MadgeMak · 06/06/2020 14:58

You may think it's pointless. I think it's been very interesting and enlightening. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

PatricksRum · 06/06/2020 14:59

I spoke to soon. Dc is passed out by the fan. So cute.
Back to the ridiculous replies now

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66redballons · 06/06/2020 15:00

Pointless statement in the title, white people can and do face racism.

PatricksRum · 06/06/2020 15:01

This just simply isn't true. People from the Traveller community will be turned away, and frequently are. Whole towns and cities in the UK have orders that prohibit Travellers from pitching up. When they do they usually have only a couple of days before court orders are obtained and the police and bailiffs turn up to evict them - now say they aren't victims of racism op? Black people are not routinely evicted within 48 hours in the UK are they?
Because they are travellers. Not because they are white.
I'm not condoning it but it isn't racism.
You cannot spot a traveller by skin colour alone.

That's the last time I will engage with you as like pp I doubt your intentions.

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PatricksRum · 06/06/2020 15:02

What about Irish and Scottish people?
What about
What about
THIS IS ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE.
THIS IS OUR MOMENT.
THIS IS OUR TIME.

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66redballons · 06/06/2020 15:02

Absolutely not true Patrick’s

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 06/06/2020 15:03

@PatricksRum

This just simply isn't true. People from the Traveller community will be turned away, and frequently are. Whole towns and cities in the UK have orders that prohibit Travellers from pitching up. When they do they usually have only a couple of days before court orders are obtained and the police and bailiffs turn up to evict them - now say they aren't victims of racism op? Black people are not routinely evicted within 48 hours in the UK are they? Because they are travellers. Not because they are white. I'm not condoning it but it isn't racism. You cannot spot a traveller by skin colour alone.

That's the last time I will engage with you as like pp I doubt your intentions.

You are wrong. As much as you would like to you don't get to define race

Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are legally recognised as ethnic groups, and protected from discrimination by the Race Relations Act (1976, amended 2000) and the Human Rights Act (1998).23 Oct 2017

66redballons · 06/06/2020 15:03

Change your title if you want... it’s not only black people that suffer racism. It’s naive to think so.

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