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To be upset over chlorinated chicken and considering leaving the uk

398 replies

Lovesgood · 05/06/2020 09:17

I know a lot of people saw this coming. Its really upsetting how the uk is now beginning to bow down to our new masters. Im seriously considering to leave the country as chlorinated chicken will only be the beginning. They will completely ruin our farmers and foodstandards. And once theyve done that, who knows what else the US will demand, only for the UK to just roll over... Im quite sad over this actually. Any suggestions as to where to go? Whats Ireland like?

Just posted here for traffic.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chlorinated-chicken-british-markets-us-trade-deal-trump-a9548431.html#gsc.tab=0

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QuentinWinters · 05/06/2020 11:24

I don't dislike our country.
One of the things I love about Britain is our strong stance on animal rights and welfare. We truly are a global leader on that.

I'm being patriotic to want to keep that, not hand it over to the Americans.

I didn't vote for brexit, but I don't believe those who did thought they were voting for dancing to the US tune rather than the EU (which isnt a country, and which we were an influential member of) tune.

Crazy, and now we are getting told to accept it like good subjects. Angry

Lovesgood · 05/06/2020 11:25

@recycledteenager24

stop talking about leaving just do it if you dislike our country so much.
I am upset because I do like the UK and dont want it to be under a US dictatorship! Its just so sad. But I doubt there is anything I can do.
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longwayoff · 05/06/2020 11:25

51st state here we come. Who didn't foresee this?

highmarkingsnowbile · 05/06/2020 11:25

I didn't vote for brexit, but I don't believe those who did thought they were voting for dancing to the US tune rather than the EU (which isnt a country, and which we were an influential member of) tune.

What did they think then Grin, that it was going to be Rule Brittainia again?

cyclingmad · 05/06/2020 11:28

Your arguing o er chicken in america being given growth hormones well guess what

Over a million tonnes of GM crops are imported each year to feed the majority of non-organic livestock which produce chicken, eggs, pork, bacon, milk, cheese etc. This practice is banned under organic standards.

So again unless you are eating proper organic meat meaning raised on a farm eating grass that has only been fertilised naturally then sorry to say your already eating meat that contains GMOs.

Literally do not get why your so up in arms over it when your already consuming chemicals and GMOs anyway from what you buy in the supermarket.

KenDodd · 05/06/2020 11:29

Personally I think endangering the peace in Ireland is worse. But, this is what we voted for.

LellyMcKelly · 05/06/2020 11:30

I thought one of the stated ‘benefits’ of leaving the EU was so that we could relax what many saw as their overbearing health and safety standards. Well done, it’s worked. I for one welcome our new chlorine chicken and hormone beef bearing overlords. It’s fun to be Trump’s new plaything.

Lovesgood · 05/06/2020 11:31

I guess organic is the answer then. At least to the food issue. This is only the beginning though, the US will enforce more crap that has nothing to do with food onto us.

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QuentinWinters · 05/06/2020 11:33

Genetically modified is not the same as hormone treated.
Genes are part of the animal or plants structure, they can't move into humans when eaten.

Hormones are chemical messengers that affect the animal that eats them. They affect the cows they are fed to and they affect the humans who eat the cow because the hormone is in the meat

highmarkingsnowbile · 05/06/2020 11:34

This is only the beginning though, the US will enforce more crap that has nothing to do with food onto us.

Hello?! They are not enforcing anything. OUR government is courting this type of trade, negotiating it, condoning it, colluding it. Hmm. Of their own volition, this government that the was voted in by a slight majority is doing this of its own accord.

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 05/06/2020 11:36

Chlorinated food reduces instances of salmonella and E-coli, it's a health safety measure.

That's utter bullshit. Meat that is infected enough to need chlorination shouldn't end up on your plate, period. We use infection controls in slaughterhouses and farms to avoid the meat becoming infected in the first place. The US has five times our population but 60 times the rate of salmonella deaths because their food production standards are so poor.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/06/us-ambassador-dismisses-uk-criticism-over-food-standards

TabbyMumz · 05/06/2020 11:37

On the other hand, they have some seriously good cuts of meat. Much more tender than we get here.

MilkTrayLimeBarrel · 05/06/2020 11:38

Just buy from your local farm shop where the chickens are reared locally. What is so wrong with chlorinated chicken anyway?

I made a mistake and bought some breadcrumbed chicken breasts from one of the catering companies who provide food for restaurants and pubs but are now selling directly to the public. I was horrified to see the chicken came from Thailand - straight in the bin. It made me realise that the food you are served in pubs and restaurants is probably not the high quality you might expect.

Thinkingabout1t · 05/06/2020 11:38

our farmers will likely be very pressured to adapt to the new lower american standards to survive.

Certainly true. It will become impossible to enforce UK standards of food safety, let alone animal welfare. This abolishes the range of choices we currently have — we’ll have the choice of low or lower quality.

oohnicevase · 05/06/2020 11:39

Just turn veggie .. our meat industry is a disgrace!!

Hingeandbracket · 05/06/2020 11:40

If I had a pound for every time someone says they are leaving the country because of chicken, Brexit, tories I'd be a billionaire living on this island on my own
And me :)

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 05/06/2020 11:45

I'm particularly impressed by the clauses being drafted that allow the US further vetos on UK legislation if they don't like it.

51st state here we come. Who didn't foresee this?

I believe Orwell described our little archepeligo as "Air Strip One".

Blimeyoreilly2020 · 05/06/2020 11:46

The irony is that a huge number of farmers where I live voted out and are now the ones banging their fists most loudly on social media at the idea of a trade deal with the us and lowering of standards🙄....they sadly will be forced to follow suit to survive if if happens....rather than leave the country however I’ll just start buying European origin products...feels a bit insane as I currently buy British....it’s a weird world we inhabit..

user163163741 · 05/06/2020 11:48

@QuentinWinters

I don't dislike our country. One of the things I love about Britain is our strong stance on animal rights and welfare. We truly are a global leader on that.

I'm being patriotic to want to keep that, not hand it over to the Americans.

I didn't vote for brexit, but I don't believe those who did thought they were voting for dancing to the US tune rather than the EU (which isnt a country, and which we were an influential member of) tune.

Crazy, and now we are getting told to accept it like good subjects. Angry

I don't think they voted for that either. They voted to Take Back Control, which we aren't.

It's such a shame our standards will be falling. I feel sad for the direction our country is taking. Do you really want the Americans to have more say? Especially with Trump in charge? Their government is completely batshit at the moment. As is ours but that is another matter! What I would give to have another prime minister right now? (Not a Conservative voter but would prefer John Major, even Theresa May acted like she cared at least a bit, I do realise she was not particularly effective!).

We've thought about emigrating for various reasons as we have the possibility of doing so for work as OH works for multinational, I think it would be a better life for our children. I don't know if it's the answer. It's swings and roundabouts, a better life but away from home, and family and friends. Some things will be better in another country, some things will be worse.

Megatron · 05/06/2020 11:48

This was always going to happen when we left the EU. It's a fucking disgrace.

CodenameVillanelle · 05/06/2020 11:51

You could always stop buying chicken
YANBU about the whole shitshow though but chlorination is hardly the most upsetting thing about farmed chicken

Thinkingabout1t · 05/06/2020 11:51

Chlorinated food reduces instances of salmonella and E-coli, it's a health safety measure

That’s almost true — if the food has been produced in filthy conditions! It only reduces the risk, though. The USA has far more food poisoning cases every year than Britain.

Still, great idea. No need to clean your house, do laundry or bathe your children. Just douse the kids in disinfectant now and then!

glueandstick · 05/06/2020 11:53

You know you eat a lot of chlorinated stuff anyhow? Fruit. Veg. All washed in chlorine or the equivalent.

Not saying it’s any better or worse. Just making aware.

totallyyesno · 05/06/2020 11:57

The irony is that we are being told that the EU imposed these high food standards on us whereas of course the truth is, as part of the EU, we were instrumental in raising animal welfare standards and ensuring our citizens had better quality food. Funny how people are now willing to accept lower standards in the name of patriotism, isn't it?

Noconceptofnormal · 05/06/2020 11:58

As long as its clearly labelled then what's the problem. If no one buys it then supermarkets will stop stocking it.