To be upset over chlorinated chicken and considering leaving the uk

[Lovesgood]

I know a lot of people saw this coming. Its really upsetting how the uk is now beginning to bow down to our new masters. Im seriously considering to leave the country as chlorinated chicken will only be the beginning. They will completely ruin our farmers and foodstandards. And once theyve done that, who knows what else the US will demand, only for the UK to just roll over... Im quite sad over this actually. Any suggestions as to where to go? Whats Ireland like?

Just posted here for traffic.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chlorinated-chicken-british-markets-us-trade-deal-trump-a9548431.html#gsc.tab=0

YANBU. The thought of leaving breaks my heart, but we're researching our escape plan in case this is the thin end of the wedge. In the meantime the plan is to only buy organic and eat less meat to compensate. Labeling legislation also likely to be effected, so it might not be as simple as reading a label.
Another thread on this:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3921354-AIBU-to-be-angry-about-the-lowering-of-our-food-standards

Chlorinated food reduces instances of salmonella and E-coli, it's a health safety measure.

thankful i'm veggie, my choice as is yours to eat meat. feel free to leave the uk though.

Just buy foods in the supermarket that are from the UK? I intend to continue to buy British-reared meat and poultry to support our farmers.

As consumers we just need to buy fresh food from accredited farms. We may also have to pay more to ensure standards. We spend less on food than people in many other countries and value quality less. If you care about what you buy and how you cook food you probably don’t need protection from bugs.

It’s long been touted the USA will have strings attached to trade agreements. But people preferred this course of action. Yes there will be food from the Eu but presumably with tariffs. So buy better quality food from the uk but eat less.

Why the hysteria? Because as some pp have pointed out. This is not just about meat. Americans eat crap food, full of chemicals, GMO etc. And they are already acting in their usual "boss of the world" kinda way by trying to enforce a bunch of shitty trading rules on the UK! That is only the start as our politicians do not seem to want to stick up for the UK as all they care about is MONEY!
We will be RULED by the USA. The NHS will be their next target.

Chlorinated food reduces instances of salmonella and E-coli, it's a health safety measure.

Chlorination is necessary in the US because their very poor food hygiene standards mean that without it there are far more instances food borne pathogens making people sick.

We have far fewer per capita cases of food poisoning in the EU/UK than in the USA without having to resort to chlorinating our food because the same level of infection isn’t there in the first place because of higher standards.

Leaving the country does seem a bit of an over reaction. I'm not even sure you'd be able to now we've left the EU? Do Ireland allow non EU people to move there?

Becoming vegetarian would probably be easier.

No one forces you to buy it. I always buy British or Irish meat, free range if possible. It doesn't have to be expensive, I cut my cloth accordingly.

Our farmers deserve our loyalty, meat shouldn't be cheap.

Just buy foods in the supermarket that are from the UK? I intend to continue to buy British-reared meat and poultry to support our farmers

Part of the deal is that it won't be labelled as such.

It amazes me how gullible people are when it comes to listening to the media

@JacobReesMogadishu

Leaving the country does seem a bit of an over reaction. I'm not even sure you'd be able to now we've left the EU? Do Ireland allow non EU people to move there?

Becoming vegetarian would probably be easier.

Seriously? Do you think we are all trapped here because we left the EU?

Wow.

Just buy foods in the supermarket that are from the UK? I intend to continue to buy British-reared meat and poultry to support our farmers

Well good luck with that. The USA tends to demand an end to country of origin labelling when negotiating trade deals.

@Laundrywoman

Chlorinated food reduces instances of salmonella and E-coli, it's a health safety measure.

US levels of food poisoning are much much higher than ours. They don't wash with chlorine because they are my hygienic, they do it because their animal welfare and farming practices are far inferior and so their produce are more diseased. We have much higher welfare standards so our animals are much healthier and don't need to be chlorine washed.

Food labelling changes will stop consumers knowing where their meat is from - US Agribusiness aren't stupid, they know consumers won't buy it unless they have no choice, so they'll have to trick us in to it.

We've got a good local farm shop but how long can we afford it, and how long can the farmers afford to stay in business?

There's a reason affluent Americans are a bit more obsessed with GMOs and organic produce than we are - the rest of their food is grim when you look in to it.

I am not excited by this development, but just want to point out that it is perfectly possible to buy non-chlorinated chicken in the US, and generally have a good diet there (and my perception is that it would be cheaper than in the UK, although my first-hand experience is quite out of date).

I would personally give up meat before leaving the U.K., but I don’t blame you for being so sad about this. It’s just one of the many, many shit things that will come as a result of brexit

If I had a pound for every time someone says they are leaving the country because of chicken, Brexit, tories I'd be a billionaire living on this island on my own.

Becoming vegetarian would probably be easier.

If you like GM crops.

Again, labelling won't allow you to discriminate.

surprised there's so much fuss when 52% of the population want this.

I have a feeling we will see British produced chicken not following American production values. Why would they? It’s a great chance to produce wholesome British food. Farmers would be mad to throw that opportunity away.

Hahahaha you're clearly clueless about farming economics!
I assume that optimistic ignorance of reality means you voted for this shit...

So who else here moaning about chicken having a chlorine rinse also eats non organic fruit, veg and bagged salad and drinks tap water?

Because guess what all of that has also had a chlorine rinse and then our tap water includes it to.

So unless your eating purely organic food and drinking bottled water I really don't understand your problem with chicken rinsed in chlorine.

Now if you have a problem with chicken from America because of the way they are treated then that's a different issue.

Oh and also if you drink coke and eat processed food then your more than happy to fill your body with other bad chemicals it you would leave a country just because chicken has been rinsed in chlorine.

I just don't get it

I don't give a damn about a bit of chlorine. I do give a damn about lower welfare standards and not being able to identify British meat due to labelling rules changing.

I don't give a damn about a bit of chlorine. I do give a damn about lower welfare standards and not being able to identify British meat due to labelling rules changing.

Well, it's the will of the people, don't forget.

Yes I think it's the lower animal welfare standards which necessitate the chlorine rather than the actual chlorine which is the issue.

@cyclingmad So, unless you eat all organic (read: expensive) food then you have should just suck down whatever the Tories decide is technically edible? I dont think so.

You dont have to be perfect to not want to eat chlorinated chicken for fucks sake.

@SerendipityJane

Becoming vegetarian would probably be easier.

If you like GM crops.

Again, labelling won't allow you to discriminate.

surprised there's so much fuss when 52% of the population want this.

It isn't 52% of the population. It's 52% of those who voted.