To be upset over chlorinated chicken and considering leaving the uk

[Lovesgood]

I know a lot of people saw this coming. Its really upsetting how the uk is now beginning to bow down to our new masters. Im seriously considering to leave the country as chlorinated chicken will only be the beginning. They will completely ruin our farmers and foodstandards. And once theyve done that, who knows what else the US will demand, only for the UK to just roll over... Im quite sad over this actually. Any suggestions as to where to go? Whats Ireland like?

Just posted here for traffic.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chlorinated-chicken-british-markets-us-trade-deal-trump-a9548431.html#gsc.tab=0

We do have chicken breeding farms in the UK you know. And high street butcher shops, farmers markets, garden centres with organic food sections too.
Additionally, there's plenty of plant based alternatives to real meat, including chicken which is not imported from America.
May I suggest that the thought of a mega flounce out of the country over the chicken situation would be better dealt with by signing the National Farmers Union petition (you can find it on their website) which addresses this very issue.

Pallas
maybe farmers should not have campaigned for Brexit then.
ZERO sympathy for most of the largest recipients of EU farming money (including J Dyson and D Cummings)

maybe farmers should not have campaigned for Brexit then.

We're repeatedly told that "farmers didn't vote for Brexit". which may be true. I really can't be bothered to engage. But if farmers didn't vote for Brexit, then the most cursory glance at the regions that did would suggest that is was the people that live in the counties, fields and communities that famers live in. Maybe they all thought they'd get to build holiday homes for the beneficiaries of Brexit ?

Either way, it's an example of the dividing nature of Brexit ...

I've already decided on an organic vegan diet if necessary.

I've already decided on an organic vegan diet if necessary.

Someone else that gets it ! Fuck everyone else as long as I'm OK.

We should get together and form a political party. We could call ourselves "Torias" to show our love for Queen Victoria, the grandmother of Europe.

I've already decided on an organic vegan diet if necessary.
I'd suggest looking at where the ingredients are grown

There is nothing inherently wrong with GM
I disagree with the EU on that one
but organic beans from Kenya v. conventional beans from Kent are clearly worse for the planet.

ZERO sympathy for most of the largest recipients of EU farming money (including J Dyson and D Cummings)

The Cummings family were hardly one of the largest recipients of EU farming subsidies - they appear to have received slightly less than the average amount per year - with most of the subsidies paid between 2000 - 2009.

My problem with GM is contamination.
Please explain.

How is a GM potato that is immune to blight a bad thing?
How is GM yellow rice that gives higher levels of vitamin A a bad thing?
Why is GM wheat that is more salt tolerant a bad thing?

some of what was done in the name of GM was bad
but not all GM is bad
baby and bathwater springs to mind

When a GM onion that is immune to white rot is developed, I'll plant it in my garden.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_use_restriction_technology

Cacao
(a) What GM wheat would be planted in Northern Ireland ?

(b) Northern Ireland is staying in the single market so no GM crops could be planted there

So, could you answer my question about why GM is so bad?

Serendipity
Terminator technology is common in normal F1 seed that you buy at the garden centre
it has nothing to do with GM

Cacao
Not sure what rolling back on promises has to do with it.

• GM wheat is not currently in use anywhere in the world.

-- Northern Ireland is not a wheat growing area --- Terminator genes are not a GM issue

Cacao
Hard Brexit and trade deal with the USA need not be linked
BUT
It has been the explicit plan of Brexiters like Rees Mogg to lower standards in the UK
from the very outset.

I voted remain by the way.

2019 - Twenty-one years of using insect resistant (GM) maize in Spain and Portugal;

www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21645698.2019.1614393

Interesting -

To -
Phil Hogan
Commissioner for Trade
European Commission

Copied to: Commissioners Kyriakides, Wojciechowski
Brussels, 5 May 2020
Re. EU scrutiny of GM food is not negotiable

Dear Commissioner Hogan,

Further to a broad civil society statement on the EU-US trade negotiations,1 we would like to once again underline the need to maintain EU food safety standards.
^According to media reports, the Commission is still in negotiation with the United States, despite the Covid-19 pandemic, and would like to “intensify” the work on regulatory cooperation. 2 As part of these
talks, the Commission may offer to accelerate authorisations of genetically modified organisms (GMOs)^ ...

Respectfully yours,
Jagoda Munic, director Friends of the Earth Europe

www.foeeurope.org/sites/default/files/gmos/2020/ngo_letter_eu_us_trade_gmo.pdf