To be absolutely fucking livid

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I'm just feeling so pissed off with the British public right now. Seeing the news stories of people crammed onto beaches, stuck in traffic jams, stupid bloody tombstoners, people queuing for 3 hours plus to get into Ikea, nobody wearing masks, tourists crapping in hedges and leaving all their rubbish behind in my beautiful village - what is wrong with people?!

I realise that Coronavirus may not be as dangerous as it first appeared but it is still here, it's still killing 100's of people a day, it's still bad news for anyone overwight, over 50 or with underlying health conditions.

All these people behaving as if it's "gone away". It hasn't!

I'm livid that the government acted too little too late. We didn't close our borders, we haven't got a proper track and trace in place. We look like idiots. Now they are saying oh it's fine to have BBQ's but bring your own ketchup - for goodness sake!

I do think lockdown should be tentatively eased - as a self employed person I've been happy to start to go back to work but I'm being so so careful with hygiene and social distancing. Baby steps. I also do think people should be able to go out for a walk or see relatives so long as social distancing. But there seems to be a general mood of oh it's fine we can all just go back to normal - in fact worse than normal, let's all crowd together and have a big old party!

I'm afraid there will be a second wave due to all this irresponsible behaviour and that we will need to go back to full lockdown, putting businesses and people's health in jeopardy. I'm worried that my daughter won't be able to start uni in September. I'm worried that my neices who are doctors will have to deal with the fall out from all this. I'm worried my husband will be unable to get another job. I'm scared and depressed.

And all these fuckers ignoring social distancing are just taking risks with their own lives and everybody elses - when they visit a beach resort or other tourist place they use the toilets, use the cashpoints, visit the supermarkets or corner shop - all prime places to spread the virus far and wide.

I just don't think the message to be careful has been hammered home hard enough.

"Absolutely livid". Christ.

Why is following the money so wrong?

It isn't wrong, not wrong at all.

As for the people queuing for Ikea, what in the name of God is that desirable from Ikea that anyone would want to queue for five miles to be able to buy it?

Not to mention the one way system that now exists within ikea which has always been a hideous place to get round anyway shudder>.

I'm with you, OP, I quite agree.
Yes, we should be easing but baby steps, slowly. Otherwise everything we have done will go to waste. And I am another one who is sure the thousands on the beaches must be the same ones who are arguing over going back to work or who are not sending children to school "because of the risk".

Nor an I understand the UK's reluctance to wear a mask. It's not compulsory, but it does help. In the local supermarket, all the staff are in masks and gloves but I am the only customer in the same, it is most odd. Do these people think they are invincible? Don't they care about anyone's else's safety?

I find it very odd indeed.

* Nor do I...*

*Newjez

Natural selection in action. *

My thoughts exactly. It's just a shame their actions will have an impact on the rest of us.

@WinWinnieTheWay

I wonder what the socioeconomic breakdown of offenders would look like? Would be interesting to see what groups are behaving like this and why.

BoJo, Dominic, Professor Pantsdown, SMP, MP...

They’re the ones whose behaviour has shown this situation for the load of BS that it is.

We’re being lied to. Over 99.9% of people are NOT at serious risk of this.

Mind your own risk.

Aren't there enough of these bloody threads yet?

I’m inclined to agree, around here it’s like the world is basically back to normal. Supermarkets not enforcing queueing any more and the roads as busy as ever.

Yet, despite the dampening down of infection levels, it hasn’t gone away? I do think we will see numbers surge again within the next couple of weeks.

I live in a popular tourist area in N Wales, beaches, mountains, forests. There those who have always:-

Pooped in the bushes. sand dunes
used disposable bbqs and started fires
Left litter all over cherished beauty spots
Left gates open all over farm land

We are just more aware of the disgusting habits of many.

bylinetimes.com/2020/06/01/the-lost-march-how-the-uk-governments-covid-19-strategy-fell-apart/

*I’m inclined to agree, around here it’s like the world is basically back to normal. Supermarkets not enforcing queueing any more and the roads as busy as ever.

Yet, despite the dampening down of infection levels, it hasn’t gone away? I do think we will see numbers surge again within the next couple of weeks.*

London is an actual ghost town, very few people on the roads, trains or buses!

Agree op. Add in the anti social arseholes playing crap music at volume in their gardens 10 hours a day. I think the pandemic has shown a large chunk of the population are greedy, self centred, selfish, arrogant twats. God help us in the future.

I was once at a large scale sporting event which subsequently attracted quite a large amount of media attention.

The thing is the reality of what happened at the event just did not match the media story. Furthermore, the photos are capturing moment of time at one location amongst many in the UK.

You shouldn't look at the photos and come to the conclusion that everyone is pooing in public and leaving litter around. The reality is very few people are doing this. Most people are behaving in a more cautious way then the government recommends. But "Family takes a socially distanced walk in quiet local woods" does not make a good news story.

I think these sorts of stories also shifts the blame for the huge UK death rate from government decisions to public acting irresponsibly.

BY delaying the lockdown and not protecting care home residents, the government has increased the death rate more than people congregating on a beach ever could.

The country needs to get back to some kind of normality.

Catching Covid-19 and being seriously affected by it was never a huge risk unless you were elderly and/or had underlying respiratory conditions. That is a fact. The Government propaganda 'the virus does not discriminate' etc was totally incorrect. Of course it discriminates - look at the demographics!!!!!!!!!!!

These people claiming to be too scared to go out / go back to work etc must have a very strange attitude to risk. Do they drive their cars at more than 20mph; do they ever walk near the edge of a pavement; do they have a minimum re-order level of 50 for toilet rolls?

Time to be realistic.

As for the people queuing for Ikea, what in the name of God is that desirable from Ikea that anyone would want to queue for five miles to be able to buy it?

Probably an extra desk and chair to work more comfortably from home? Or a proper bed instead of a cot because the kid grew in three months? Or baby furniture because people are expecting?

@molifly14

I understand your point, unfortunately the governments actions and mixed messages have made people come to the conclusion that normal life is to resume.

I agree with this. I think too many MPs/official 'advisors' have been caught treating the rules they they are optional. They set a low bar on standards of behaviour.

The rules themselves are now something I have lost total track of. 6 people? 8 people? In a garden? Using the toilet? 2 households? In public spaces? 2m apart 1.5m? 1m? Shops open? Or not yet? Schools open but not mandatory? Or mandatory for some but not others? Illegal to stay overnight? Or ok if you stay in the garden? Or ok if you stay till midnight, sleep at a hotel and then go back again at first light? Or hotels not yet open? But I think you can buy a car? But not share a car with someone not from your household? Unless they are a car salesperson? Ok to drive? Or only drive 10 miles? Unless you are test driving a car? Or only for exercise? or only to test your eyesight if you have stayed away from home but not in the same house as another household? Or is this bit only allowed if you are sick? Or if you own the home? Or if your parents do? Or if you think you might be sick and have small children?

The government has lost respect and control imo.

@ChickenNuggetsChipsAndBeans

Spot on.

The brutal bottom line is that for the overwhelming majority of the population Covid isn't harmful. It's only harmful for the very elderly or those who are physically vulnerable. The government simply cannot allow the economy to tank any further and it simply cannot afford to endlessly pay out for everyone's wages or benefits.

If the price for getting the country back on its feet is the death of some very elderly people, who would most likely have died of natural aging in the next few years anyway, then that is the brutal price the government are more than prepared to pay.

It's obvious that initially the government thought Covid was going to affect and kill huge swathes of the population. That's why they moved Heaven and Earth to build the Nightingale hospitals. But they soon realised that actually Covid was only dangerous to the very elderly or those already ill with chronic conditions. They soon realised that our Intensive Care units were not going to be overwhelmed and actually weren't even close to being overwhelmed and the vast majority of patients in the ICUs were very old and frail anyway. Yet, lockdown was jepordising the future health and well-being of hundreds of thousands of people whose treatment was suspended, people who would go on to live long and productive lives if the received timely treatment. And lockdown was tanking the economy and on its way to ruining it irreparably and damaging and ruining the lives of millions, if not billions of people for whom Covid simply is not a threat and never will be. This is the brutal truth

I agree op. I'm actually embarrassed for us as a nation. It seems that as soon as someone says you 'shouldn't' do something, we go and do it! Roads are back to normal, beaches, tourist places are busier than normal, bbqs, fires, litter it's disgraceful. I know people blame the gov and the mixed messages, but it's down to people and using common sense. Surely you don't need the gov to tell you to take your litter home, don't start fires, stay away from crowded places.

The whole sex announcement is a typical example. The guidelines are that you keep at least 6 feet away from people outside your household, not inside other people houses etc and they have to go so far as saying you can't have sex with someone outside your household. Ffs surely that's common sense, I'm fairly sure you need to be closer than 6 foot to have sex.

@Noextremes2017

No you have it all wrong.

Don't you remember that fat blonde haired turd standing there telling us all that the reason we were not closing borders / schools etc was that it was 'important to take these measures at the right time' and that we were 'following the science'.

Well we should all have known that Johnson is a fucking idiot - just a shame the SAGE group Government Paid Lackeys were and continue to be fucking useless as well.

My tribe!

@SharkasticRhymes

A lot of people had no respect for Johnson and his cronies even before all this.

Yes your point about rules is right. This daily drip feeding of changes is crazy. It is all about having something to say at the 5 O'clock show which is now really obsolete and should be discontinued.

My bet is that the Government/BBC have come to a shady agreement. You let us spout our propaganda for a few more weeks and we'll see that you are ok with the licence fee.

Wait there, people are shitting in bushes?? Because that is disgusting!

It's all gone a bit crazy this last week or so, I think in the slight change easing lots of people have been given an inch and taken a mile, and as they're being asked to use their own common sense the ball is in their court.

I do however believe that the looking country as a whole, I think a larger percentage of people are following the rules and doing things correctly there are just a relatively small minority doing whatever they please, there are also a considerable amount of people still being excessively cautious so I'm hoping one balances out the other 🤞 All we can do is make sure we're following the rules to the letter and leave other people to it and hope for the best, I have been frustrated too but the only person this affects is me because this people don't really care

The messaging from the government has been jumbled IMO. That, coupled with the Cummings fiasco has caused millions of people to do exactly what the fuck they want.

@peaceanddove

Unfortunately the economy is already very badly damaged.

Government handouts are just delaying redundancies. They will stop and then we'll all see the real effect of this terrible mis-judgement. But of course the Government will never admit error. They will say they were following advice from the scientists and blame them.

Watch it all play out.......