To be absolutely fucking livid

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I'm just feeling so pissed off with the British public right now. Seeing the news stories of people crammed onto beaches, stuck in traffic jams, stupid bloody tombstoners, people queuing for 3 hours plus to get into Ikea, nobody wearing masks, tourists crapping in hedges and leaving all their rubbish behind in my beautiful village - what is wrong with people?!

I realise that Coronavirus may not be as dangerous as it first appeared but it is still here, it's still killing 100's of people a day, it's still bad news for anyone overwight, over 50 or with underlying health conditions.

All these people behaving as if it's "gone away". It hasn't!

I'm livid that the government acted too little too late. We didn't close our borders, we haven't got a proper track and trace in place. We look like idiots. Now they are saying oh it's fine to have BBQ's but bring your own ketchup - for goodness sake!

I do think lockdown should be tentatively eased - as a self employed person I've been happy to start to go back to work but I'm being so so careful with hygiene and social distancing. Baby steps. I also do think people should be able to go out for a walk or see relatives so long as social distancing. But there seems to be a general mood of oh it's fine we can all just go back to normal - in fact worse than normal, let's all crowd together and have a big old party!

I'm afraid there will be a second wave due to all this irresponsible behaviour and that we will need to go back to full lockdown, putting businesses and people's health in jeopardy. I'm worried that my daughter won't be able to start uni in September. I'm worried that my neices who are doctors will have to deal with the fall out from all this. I'm worried my husband will be unable to get another job. I'm scared and depressed.

And all these fuckers ignoring social distancing are just taking risks with their own lives and everybody elses - when they visit a beach resort or other tourist place they use the toilets, use the cashpoints, visit the supermarkets or corner shop - all prime places to spread the virus far and wide.

I just don't think the message to be careful has been hammered home hard enough.

The economy being the priority is fine.

The problem is they've made a mess from the beginning regarding public health rather than showing competence and coherent leadership.

I feel you, I live in a popular tourist area in sw Scotland and at the moment we have been over run with an influx of holidaymakers. It drives me nuts most of the locals are now hiding out at home as the streets here are now so busy

AIBU being so angry, my neighbours, young couple with 2 babies, have disappeared for the past 3 days and nights, where the fuck have they gone? She also has had her mother stay overnight, twice since lockdown. What is the point in any of us adhering to the rules when we have so many imboceles doing whatever they want?

How can the people be responsible for what is still happening in nursing homes? That callous order was made knowing what would happen. That wasn’t some random idiot, that came from government.

They apply laws when they feel like it to the detriment of others. They have criminalised couples who don’t live together ffs. All because what one of their own got fucking caught with his pants down.

Perhaps they were struggling and needed some extra support. They aren’t bothering you so why do you care where they have fucked off for 3 days. For all you know one of them might be in hospital.

AIBU being so angry, my neighbours, young couple with 2 babies, have disappeared for the past 3 days and nights, where the fuck have they gone?

Maybe they both have the virus so have driven to stay on a property in their parents estate in case they need shopping done for them. Ahem.

I have various family members who have gone to stay with family, staying in a separate annex of the building etc and socialising outside. I don't think it's against the rules.

I've been to stay with my parents. My father is shielding too. Because it was either that or be sectioned or kill myself. And that is no good for my dc or me either. Have a little empathy for other humans.

Sorry Susanwendy, another moron here- why are you so bothered about your neighbour's activities? I can't seem to find the explanation you say you gave?

@understandmenow

I'm just feeling so pissed off with the British public right now. Seeing the news stories of people crammed onto beaches, stuck in traffic jams, stupid bloody tombstoners, people queuing for 3 hours plus to get into Ikea, nobody wearing masks, tourists crapping in hedges and leaving all their rubbish behind in my beautiful village - what is wrong with people?!

Don't go to the beach then, don't travel and you won't get into jams, don't tombstone or go to Ikea. As for in "my" village, it's not yours, you live there and apart from your property to own no more of it than I do.

Totally agree and would like to suggest you do get out of "your beautiful village" more and see how many people are living in less fortunate circumstances, e.g. no garden, cramped living conditions etc. It's hard to socially distance in a crowd, and depressing to try to keep the boundaries all the time. That said, there are always people behaving antisocially, lockdown or not. What to do?

You need to read better papers. Blame the government, not the feckless people.

Maybe they both have the virus so have driven to stay on a property in their parents estate in case they need shopping done for them. Ahem

”02/06/2020 12:34 WhatWouldDominicDo

There comes a point when Boris has to prioritise the money though. The government can't pay all our salaries for ever. Nor benefits to everyone who might be made redundant if businesses don't open soon. And for businesses to resume, kids have to go back to school.“

It’s a fair point, and money doesn’t grow on trees... except they had enough money to bail out the reckless banks, enough money to bail out polluting industries, enough money to pay for a climate wrecking third runway and high speed rail line. I don’t know the details and figures but there will be mumsnet tees that do.

They could tax the rich properly and there would be plenty to go round.

But it’s about priorities and we voted in a government whose aim is to protect social inequality because they benefit the most.

sure everyone has a choice, we hope that , on the whole, people will behave in a unselfish , and caring way, not everyone is doing this, i am so sad to hear and see all the people just carrying on as normal, its a case of,,,,, im all right jack, , its sad that this pandemic is bringing out the worst in so many ,,,, my hubby and i have been isolating for 12 weeks and its a bit of a slap in the face to see how others are behaving

sure everyone has a choice, we hope that , on the whole, people will behave in a unselfish , and caring way, not everyone is doing this, i am so sad to hear and see all the people just carrying on as normal, its a case of,,,,, im all right jack, , its sad that this pandemic is bringing out the worst in so many ,,,, my hubby and i have been isolating for 12 weeks and its a bit of a slap in the face to see how others are behaving

I presume that this is aimed at people actually breaking the rules? Not at people that are not breaking the rules, like going to McDonalds or IKEA?

Have you needed to isolate for 12 weeks due to health issues?

Parents would often send their children into school or around supermarkets with:
chickenpox during the infection stage
Same with hand, foot and mouth
Stomach bugs - Oh but little Sally has been ok for the past 12 hours. 20 minutes later, spewing up
Send their kids covered in lice
High temp, coughing and sneezing all over the place - in school with some Calpol.

Where was the concern for those around them? The adults, the children with immune problems or whatever serious health conditions.

Where was the concern for nut-free schools?

Where was the concern when parents were dictating birthday invites and excluding kids because they was a bit different despite the child would like their mate to attend?

That's why I'm livid. That it took a global pandemic for a lot of people to open their eyes and start giving a shit.

Where were all the complaints about the utterly poor excuse of the benefits systems? Even when it was reported in the national press that people were dying as a result. Nothing. You don't even have to search the net, use the search function on this place.

People can do their own risk assessment.. Their behaviour doesn’t just affect themselves.

@fassbendersmistress

There is going to be a second wave. Of course there is. But not because people are shopping in supermarkets or tombstoning. It will happen because that was ALWAYS going to be the case.

Lockdown was not intended to bring COVID 19 to its knees. It was to give the nhs a chance to cope. And it has coped. And it will be ready to cope again. It’s no picnic for nhs workers of course, but we are stuck with the system we’ve got and the amazing workers will once again do their but.

The vast majority of people who get the virus will bear it well and will recover.

I couldn’t get angry about shoppers or day-trippers or bbq-ers, but I can get angry about the kids trapped at home with their abusers, the families going hungry, the people whose metal health problems are escalating untreated, the already broken economy....Ie. real human problems!!

Absolutely best post thank you. I've found the self centred misinformed position people are generally taking so alarming. I think the amount of fear a lot of "non vulnerable bracketed people" is a result of having lived their life without ever peeking over the parapet. (Or leaving their villages).

@Noextremes2017

There are a lot of people taking the piss on the furlough scheme. They won't look so smart in a few months when it is revealed to be the Redundancy Waiting Room.

What a nasty comment. I know several people anxious about being furloughed, including my daughter who had just got her first proper job. They are all worried it might eventually mean redundancy. You must live amongst particularly scummy sorts of people if this is your impression. Check out your information before posting ignorant comments, oh and maybe change your reading matter

It's like reading something out of a dystopian novel here. One lady wearing a mask whilst pregnant and being angry that others aren't , yet scientifically masks can cause bacteria and also oxygen to not flow directly causing loss of consciusness. Another angry that her neighbours have gone somewhere for 3 days?! Others angry that people are going to beach to enjoy themselves and get vitamin for D much needed immune boosters for when Autumn comes and loads of viruses are around.

Chris Witty telling people that it's not as dangerous and even majority high risk groups will not die. Cancer parents missing out on viral treatment, suicide rates up, small business owners in despair, children living with their fearful parents making them paranoid and anxious. Yes you are being very unreasonable. And don't even get me started on how smart this virus is that you can say 5 year old can't go on a slide but thousands can protests, no matter how important the protests are you can not have one rule for one and another. Media slient on that one. This is a draconian road we are leading ourselves into.

Sockm, well said. We need to apply the law fairly to all. We could also help with much needed state funds if we fined everyone in a big protest group say £500 per person. That would help the NHS a lot.

One lady wearing a mask whilst pregnant and being angry that others aren't , yet scientifically masks can cause bacteria and also oxygen to not flow directly causing loss of consciusness

And yet from Monday they will be compulsory on public transport and are compulsory for everyone going into my local hospital.

Chris Witty telling people that it's not as dangerous and even majority high risk groups will not die.

Think you're being a but selective there. Your chances are dying vary greatly depending on whereabouts in the high risk group you fall.

And as is repeatedly said, dying is not the only thing to worry about. Long term effects aren't yet known, recovery rates for some are many weeks, even months.

I love how you seem to be far more of an expert than the hospital consultants looking after me. They are much more cautious and much more uncertain about more chances than you are. Maybe you could hire out your skills to the NHS or PHE?

Firstly a mask won't protect you from getting it they stop you from spreading it! Secondly life has got to resume at some point we cant sit and fester for years to come. We can't put our lives on hold forever. People are allowed to meet in small groups. Stop getting upset over other what other people are doing, let them make their own judgements and risks. If you want to hibernate go ahead.

No, me wearing a mask won't stop me from getting it, but me wearing a mask will help stop others from catching it if I've got it. Therefore, if everyone wears a mask it makes it much safer for all.

In every country that has managed to control spread, mask wearing is accepted by everyone and is commonplace.

No one is suggesting that we stay locked down forever. Why the hyperbole? Why aren't we doing what government insisted we were doing back in March - following the science?

Science said five conditions to be met before lockdown eased and science had suggested extending it by just another two weeks before gradually easing it.

As for me hibernating - well, I'm shielding, so I'm stuck here until the 12th of Never at this rate.

And frankly people don't have the right to assess their own risks and make their own judgement. Government have passed laws stating what we can and can't do.