To be absolutely fucking livid

[tinkywinkyshandbag]

I'm just feeling so pissed off with the British public right now. Seeing the news stories of people crammed onto beaches, stuck in traffic jams, stupid bloody tombstoners, people queuing for 3 hours plus to get into Ikea, nobody wearing masks, tourists crapping in hedges and leaving all their rubbish behind in my beautiful village - what is wrong with people?!

I realise that Coronavirus may not be as dangerous as it first appeared but it is still here, it's still killing 100's of people a day, it's still bad news for anyone overwight, over 50 or with underlying health conditions.

All these people behaving as if it's "gone away". It hasn't!

I'm livid that the government acted too little too late. We didn't close our borders, we haven't got a proper track and trace in place. We look like idiots. Now they are saying oh it's fine to have BBQ's but bring your own ketchup - for goodness sake!

I do think lockdown should be tentatively eased - as a self employed person I've been happy to start to go back to work but I'm being so so careful with hygiene and social distancing. Baby steps. I also do think people should be able to go out for a walk or see relatives so long as social distancing. But there seems to be a general mood of oh it's fine we can all just go back to normal - in fact worse than normal, let's all crowd together and have a big old party!

I'm afraid there will be a second wave due to all this irresponsible behaviour and that we will need to go back to full lockdown, putting businesses and people's health in jeopardy. I'm worried that my daughter won't be able to start uni in September. I'm worried that my neices who are doctors will have to deal with the fall out from all this. I'm worried my husband will be unable to get another job. I'm scared and depressed.

And all these fuckers ignoring social distancing are just taking risks with their own lives and everybody elses - when they visit a beach resort or other tourist place they use the toilets, use the cashpoints, visit the supermarkets or corner shop - all prime places to spread the virus far and wide.

I just don't think the message to be careful has been hammered home hard enough.

YABU! So many British people think they have a right to be mollycoddled and allowed to put their feet up at home whilst coronavirus exists. I can’t completely blame them because it’s really the fault of the media scaring people.
Viruses have always been around making people ill, killing people who are elderly or not healthy enough to suppress it...it’s no different now and it won’t be in the future. I don’t think we can all live like hermits until it goes away. We’re living in a much safer place than we ever have before with much better treatments available and far better hygiene, people should feel lucky not depressed.

I think it’s far more important people live their lives, kids go to school, the economy keeps going. Those who are more susceptible should continue to isolate if they want to but why does everyone else have to do the same it just doesn’t make sense. We’ve spent a lot of public money getting extra nhs space to deal with this virus and now we’re ready as people return to normal life which is exactly what we should be doing.

Most people are not seriously affected by the virus including kids. We don’t need to live in fear. Everyone just needs to be sensible, be hygienic and use their common sense. Sure there will always be people who don’t do these things but nothing new there. Don’t mix with those people.

All I'm saying is can folks not step out into the road without looking, I understand they're avoiding people, it's just alarming & I tend to swerve a bit, but not headlong into an oncoming vehicle as yet 😮 thanks x

Letsnotgooverboard

Currently, infection rates are about 8000 per day (acknowledged by Patrick Valance this week)

R is now above 1 in some places and close to 1 in others, having risen this week.

We've abandoned the idea of track and trace, a system very successfully used in other countries to suppress spread, and have resorted to a watered down system of test and trace.

You want everyone to go back to normal, now.

How do you think government should handle the inevitable spread of Covid? What do you want to see happen as regards healthcare, etc? Should we go back into lockdown or do you think next time we should just let it spread?

@susan1961 yy, it's unbelievable how many people do that!!

@Hearhoovesthinkzebras let it spread

Currently, infection rates are about 8000 per day (acknowledged by Patrick Valance this week)

Didn't they say yesterday that it down to around 5000 now?

Currently, infection rates are about 8000 per day (acknowledged by Patrick Valance this week)

It's 5000 🙄

@tinkywinkyshandbag

Lol 😂

People like you are part of the problem

Do you think you could get a little more hysterical?

let it spread

Ok. And not admit people to hospital? What should happen to people who get ill enough to need oxygen or ITU? Should people just stay at home and either die or recover? How should we manage sickness rates within essential workforces?

Didn't they say yesterday that it down to around 5000 now?

Sorry, didn't see briefing yesterday.

So, infection rate at 5000 new cases a day.

That's right @Hearhoovesthinkzebras it's a reduction of 37.5% which is definitely going in the right direction.

It might go up now due to more mass gatherings in breach of the law but if we are all going to get it anyway now we have the Nightingales we can probably cope with a greater number of people on ventilators now that at the start so spreading it at mass gatherings might just get more of it over and done with and have done us all a favour.

now we have the Nightingales we can probably cope with a greater number of people on ventilators now that at the start so spreading it at mass gatherings might just get more of it over and done with and have done us all a favour.

The Nightingales have been mothballed and didn't have enough people to staff them. When you say, 'over and done with' are you talking about deaths?

The Nightingales have been mothballed and didn't have enough people to staff them. When you say, 'over and done with' are you talking about deaths?

They were mothballed because they didn't have enough patients.

They were mothballed because they didn't have enough patients.

It wasn't as straightforward as that. Patient numbers were down by the time the Nightingales were operative but there was also a shortage of ventilators and critical care staff.

@Xenia

It might go up now due to more mass gatherings in breach of the law but if we are all going to get it anyway now we have the Nightingales we can probably cope with a greater number of people on ventilators now that at the start so spreading it at mass gatherings might just get more of it over and done with and have done us all a favour.

We don't have the staff for the Nightingales, which was the problem from the get go and why they weren't really used. Hospitals wanting to transfer a patient there had to supply staff. They couldn't spare the staff so didn't transfer the patients.

We don't have staff for Nightingale because they have all been redeployed back, sent home etc.

There was some confusion with patients own nurses and some assumed they were general staff. Those are transfered with the patient. in a lot of cases (ime).

They were really used in the beginning to help take the pressure. They were set up quickly, and all staff given extensive training into infection control.

Should the need arise again, they will be operational a hell of a lot quicker than last time. Maybe we should have let the Army take control of the NHS, they seem to do a better job than the government muppets.

And when these muppets were sitting around planning lock down and their bent deals with their mates, you would think exit strategies would have been discussed then.

Instead lets look into planning exit strategies and hasten opening the nhs to all. These well educated people never thought about what happens when access to care is denied.

It will be interesting to see future legal cases from those that have been massively fucked over trying to save them.

I was a Nurse until recently. I signed up to the emergency covid register, was told someone would contact me but never was contacted so I assumed they had enough staff to staff the Nightingale hospitals. I don't have critical care experience but could have helped free up others who did.

Speaking to friends who are still nurses it seems almost that those in charge didn't realise how specialised ITU nurses are and that you could just give someone a crash course on ventilator settings and they would be good to go.

Im sure they thought just buying a ton of ventilators would solve capacity issues.

The way some of the specialised trained are treated I don't blame them from moving away from nhs which would have helped to explain any shortages, along with lack of foresight in the trust, and of course those off sick.

It wasn't just the serious cases that were sent to Nightingale either.

@canigooutyet

The way some of the specialised trained are treated I don't blame them from moving away from nhs which would have helped to explain any shortages, along with lack of foresight in the trust, and of course those off sick.

It wasn't just the serious cases that were sent to Nightingale either.

Completely agree with you.

As always government seem to think that they can treat people appallingly for years and they'll keep coming back for more. I think maybe they've had an idea now about how woefully under funded, under staffed and under resources the NHS is and the consequences of it. Doubt they'll do anything about it though - maybe they think they can change a nurse's name badge and it will make them suitably qualified, you know, like how they stuck new stickers over the expiry dates on the PPE.

I know that was shocking.
So happy to hear direct or indirect more are saying fuck our contracts I’m talking about this.

Had the wait until 6 months started getting talked about, nhs would have been blamed. Not like muppets in charge have really admitted to anything yet.