To be absolutely fucking livid

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I'm just feeling so pissed off with the British public right now. Seeing the news stories of people crammed onto beaches, stuck in traffic jams, stupid bloody tombstoners, people queuing for 3 hours plus to get into Ikea, nobody wearing masks, tourists crapping in hedges and leaving all their rubbish behind in my beautiful village - what is wrong with people?!

I realise that Coronavirus may not be as dangerous as it first appeared but it is still here, it's still killing 100's of people a day, it's still bad news for anyone overwight, over 50 or with underlying health conditions.

All these people behaving as if it's "gone away". It hasn't!

I'm livid that the government acted too little too late. We didn't close our borders, we haven't got a proper track and trace in place. We look like idiots. Now they are saying oh it's fine to have BBQ's but bring your own ketchup - for goodness sake!

I do think lockdown should be tentatively eased - as a self employed person I've been happy to start to go back to work but I'm being so so careful with hygiene and social distancing. Baby steps. I also do think people should be able to go out for a walk or see relatives so long as social distancing. But there seems to be a general mood of oh it's fine we can all just go back to normal - in fact worse than normal, let's all crowd together and have a big old party!

I'm afraid there will be a second wave due to all this irresponsible behaviour and that we will need to go back to full lockdown, putting businesses and people's health in jeopardy. I'm worried that my daughter won't be able to start uni in September. I'm worried that my neices who are doctors will have to deal with the fall out from all this. I'm worried my husband will be unable to get another job. I'm scared and depressed.

And all these fuckers ignoring social distancing are just taking risks with their own lives and everybody elses - when they visit a beach resort or other tourist place they use the toilets, use the cashpoints, visit the supermarkets or corner shop - all prime places to spread the virus far and wide.

I just don't think the message to be careful has been hammered home hard enough.

@TerrapinStation Under 400k died and over 6million who have had the virus. I did correct myself on page two of this thread. Do keep up.

I’m most angry about the litter. The health stuff is awful of course but hopefully they’ll all wipe each other out.

I can’t understand how people can live in the world now and not act on plastic pollution & climate change (because recycling usually uses less energy than producing from scratch).

It’s getting to the stage where I’m wishing all these DUMB FUCKS will be annihilated somehow.

@WinWinnieTheWay yes it would, but I suspect it will be all of them and the characteristic linking the offenders will be that they are all selfish, entitled pricks. The government needs to prioritise environmental protection in all places, so a clean environment is the norm for people and not littering becomes second nature. It’s enforcing it that becomes tricky. Spot fines? How do you ID someone in order to follow up?

People are not idiots. Do you think you know best?

Unfortunately a lot of them are idiots.

The SAGE scientists have said that this is all happening too soon and too quickly and they are not being listened to. Maybe they think they know better than Cummings and Johnson, having greater knowledge of the subject and all, but maybe they don't and DC and BJ were right all along with their herd immunity ideas.

Although, Johnson got very ill though, when he insisted on shaking hands with Codvid19 patients, so maybe he actually doesn't know best.

Yes, we need to get the economy up and running again and we can't all stay in our homes forever, but this needs to taken very slowly and test and trace needs to be properly set up and able to work efficiently, which at the moment it isn't.

People crowding onto beaches, and other tourist spots, when the pandemic is far from over and infection rates and deaths are still higher than they should be for the measures the government have now put in place, is hardly the behaviour of sensible people.

And can anyone honestly say that the people jumping off groynes are not idiots?

Hopefully, there won't be another spike, and the doctor in Italy who claims that the Virus is losing strength is right, I do hope so.

People are now obsessed with staying at home and not going out. I've been to the beach twice this week with my household. Both times we were at least 50m from the nearest person, we'd have been more at risk in our own garden. We didn't need to use the toilet as only went for a couple of hours. We parked in a car park which had plenty of spaces. All perfectly allowed yet a few facebook 'friends' are screaming we shouldn't go to the beach.

People are being very irresponsible using the "we need to get back to normal" as an excuse to basically go around licking other people's faces.

Ok I'm exaggerating but just because the dickhead in number 10 says you can go out yo Play, does not mean you HAVE to. People need to take a long and hard look at themselves and ask if the can say 100% hand on heart their actions are necessary and as safe as possible.
You want a beach day with the family? Have a Plan B C and D up your sleeve. Just because you want to go to Durdke Door or Weymouth beach, use your own common sense. If its rammed ask yourself if you may be better going somewhere else, even a park nearby if all beaches are too busy.

What s the national emergency to need to queue to get in Ikea? Oh hang on, there isn't one. But you know, it's open so I MUST go.

People just need to be a bit more cautious. Think a bit more. Its baby steps not dive right in.

Christ. We will never get back to a normal if people cannot stop acting so self entitled every single day.

I say this as some8one desperate for normality, a beach day and an Ikea trip. I'm not someone happily holed up in my house terrified to come out, which is what people assume when I voice these concerns.

Its like no one has common sense or can think for themselves. Boris says it's ok so it is and I now MUST do this attitude needs to stop.

thepeopleversuswork

Great post. There are a lot of different factors that a government needs to juggle to give proper leadership in this crisis. Unfortunately, watching from afar I don't think the English government has met the challenge.

Living endlessly under lockdown is impossible. Young people are not designed to stay indoors with their parents for months on end, especially when they know that the likelihood of covid-19 harming them is extremely slim. Most of them have made a huge effort but it is understandable that a lot of them are fed up.

Can you blame people for deciding that they may be the best guardians of their own health and ignoring the rules?

I certainly know my health and what I need to do better than those muppets in Downing Street. Certainly not ignoring all the advice, but being very "flexible" with some.

I agree that lots of people are idiots.

I'm personally surprised that people call this 'back to normal'.

My normal involves going to cafes, the pub and the gym. None of those are happening.

My normal involves walking in the park on bank holidays, and wondering why nobody is there having picnics - glorious sunny days, lovely big clean spaces, yet people tend not to picnic there.

Not now, the place is chocka with exercisers, amblers, picnickers etc. Not that I resent it, but places are rammed in part because they can't do lots of normal things, and because people haven't been able to do those things for a long time.

You can’t account for stupid. There will always be people who think the rules don’t apply to them. I had to ask my neighbours to move their guests car at the weekend as they blocked me in and I had to go to work (nurse). How rude for interrupting their bbq!

I'm not surprised, but I'm not livid either.

Hopefully, the people who know they are at risk and should stay at home are doing exactly that.

You could argue that (most of) the people going out/ having friends over will get the virus/ recover from it and begin to build up the herd immunity that was so forcefully rejected as a strategy.
Rejoice! The covidiots are doing it for us, and if some of them die then there will be fewer stupid people about .

I remember all the outrage when the government said one of the reasons they didn't lock down sooner is because people simply won't accept lockdown forever and therefore the timing has to be right. Everyone shouted, "of course we will!"

And yet here we are....

I'm not really livid, but I have been confused. It never really got quiet where I am as I live near industrial estates, but it does feel normal when I go outside.

A month ago when I had to run to the corner shop, they had mask and gloves on, everything was careful. people stepped to either side of the pavement when walking past. Yesterday, I did another run and the exact same guy was standing out front chatting away right next to someone and there was not much care about social distancing or anything at all. I felt really weird with a mask.

I have been annoyed about the litter, especially drive-through food litter. Like, it's already in the car with you, just take it to wherever you're going to throw it away. I have family and friends working at hotels that are either open for NHS and other key workers or are doing maintenance on sites in the process of possibly reopening next month for certain local businesses that are regulars. They spend so much time cleaning up the car parks in the last few weeks. Mostly KFC as it's the closest - who've been great about staff 'returning' the rubbish into their bins as the hotel's own bins have been filled by passersby it seems - but it's really a mix of everything and I just don't get it.

Bit over dramatic isnt it.

I went to the beach at the weekend with my DH and our three DC. We observed social distancing, took all that we would need with us and had a lovely time. On hearing this a relative lost their shit and started screeching we were going to cause a second wave and they hoped we would think our nice day was worth it when people were dying in huge numbers. These sorts of huge overreactions when we haven't actually done anything that increases risks to others and indeed took steps to ensure we would be away from crowds (parked a long way from the car park, took a really inconvenient route to the beach itself to be in a more secluded spot etc) don't achieve anything other than to make people stop listening to you at all.

The Some SAGE scientists have said that this is all happening too soon and too quickly and they are not being listened to.

Fixed that for you.

Aposterhasnoname No you really didn't.

Why is following the money so wrong? Now, after ten weeks, the country is almost crippled financially. How are we going to pay for the NHS, education, childcare, carehomes etc if we do not have a thriving economy. Lockdown has got to end and end soon if we have any chance at all of an economic recovery.

Why do you think track and trace is inadequate? It’s a good system but apparently when people are being phoned up, they’re slamming the phone down on them. I know someone working on it.

For the 1000000th time. We did not go into lockdown to wait for coronavirus to dissapear, wait on a vaccine or make it go away, we went into lockdown to slow down the people who were going to die from it so the NHS wasnt overwhelmed. They weren't overwhelmed, we will now have to begin to get back to normal. Coronavirus will be making it's way through society for years and years to come, you may catch it and die, you might not. If you are predisposed to dying from it, you may do so in 2 weeks time, or in 2 years, or 20. You cant stay at home forever. If you are in the at risk category, you may need to stay home and distance until a vaccine is found. The only way to facilitate this comfortably is if the economy gets back on its feet and can support those in need.

people crammed onto beaches, stuck in traffic jams, stupid bloody tombstoners, people queuing for 3 hours plus to get into Ikea, nobody wearing masks, tourists crapping in hedges and leaving all their rubbish behind in my beautiful village - what is wrong with people?!

The only thing against the guidelines/ law here is the littering (and shitting) so I don't think you can blame the people.

Blame the govt. Get angry at the govt. They're the ones relaxing the rules too soon and ignoring scientific advice.

Obviously people who leave poo and tampons on the beach or whatever are scum. That was the case long before any of this happened and it will remain the case when covid-19 has disappeared.
It's grim but there have always been twats like this in society and this is a bit of a red herring.

It doesn't happen anywhere near to this extent normally. The problem is covidiots flocking to busy areas where facilities are not open or if there are facilitates not wanting to use them.

If you go somewhere and it is that busy you turn around and go somewhere else.

The lack of common sense astounds me actually. As others have said, you just need to use a little bit of brainpower to think how to avoid doing what everyone else is doing.

I run every Sunday with a friend. We start at 8.30 from a National Trust car park. Before coronavirus the car would be busy, but you could still get a space. Since lockdown it has been absolutely rammed full, with people parking on verges/ grass/ disabled spaces.

About 200 yards into our run route there is a short footpath leading to another (free, public) area of parking. It's completely empty!
People are like lemmings - blindly following one another!

Lots of people are cross in various ways. i hve been against lockdown since the start so am cross in a different way.

I unite with this poster on litter however. Our private road on which we very very kindly let people walk 9on a private estate which is not gated) is very busy indeed which I can endure I suppose for a bit of time although I have fantasies of erecting massive iron gates and looking at their faces when they realise they will have to walk on a road they pay council tax for (we have to pay £30k just to pave each road here, never mind for drains and gardening and all sorts which we then let others use....).

I was out today again with my trowel picking up all the turds just on the grass verge outside my house - built up a huge amount yet again. I wish I could shoot their dogs as they go - I hate dogs but I never seem to catch them at it.

Tbh . I have worked throughout but just leaving everyone else to do what they want - I will be safe in my bubble I created.

I find worrying about what everyone else does is not good for me , I can’t control it so won’t stress

Yet millions have died around the world. no. Millions have not died from COVID. In fact IIRC the numbers are less than the number who die of TB every year, a number which has increased this year due to lockdown in many countries meaning people aren’t being tested for TB who previously would have been.

IIRC it’s about 300K of a world population of eight billion.

You can’t control others, so you have to do what is right for you. No, I’m not ready to go out (vulnerable and shielding) but I do think the hysteria over this is way OTT.

I also think the government are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. If they’d stayed in lockdown then the risk to the livelihoods and mental health of people would overtake the risks from COVID.

And the reality is that there was always going to come a point when people reached lockdown fatigue and refused to comply any more anyway.

There has to come a point when the economy needs to be considered, because when this is over (and it will be over, likely sooner rather than later,) we still have a population who need to eat, pay bills, live generally and the furlow and benefits scheme is not sustainable in the longer term.

It’s easy to blame this government but regardless of which government had been in charge there would have been criticisms. And I didn’t vote for either of them.

I think the government advice is quite clear (although they have failed on multiple other points) that things are only relaxed with social distancing in place. I think it's really depressing people need to be forcibly stopped from doing things and can't be trusted.