To be absolutely fucking livid

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I'm just feeling so pissed off with the British public right now. Seeing the news stories of people crammed onto beaches, stuck in traffic jams, stupid bloody tombstoners, people queuing for 3 hours plus to get into Ikea, nobody wearing masks, tourists crapping in hedges and leaving all their rubbish behind in my beautiful village - what is wrong with people?!

I realise that Coronavirus may not be as dangerous as it first appeared but it is still here, it's still killing 100's of people a day, it's still bad news for anyone overwight, over 50 or with underlying health conditions.

All these people behaving as if it's "gone away". It hasn't!

I'm livid that the government acted too little too late. We didn't close our borders, we haven't got a proper track and trace in place. We look like idiots. Now they are saying oh it's fine to have BBQ's but bring your own ketchup - for goodness sake!

I do think lockdown should be tentatively eased - as a self employed person I've been happy to start to go back to work but I'm being so so careful with hygiene and social distancing. Baby steps. I also do think people should be able to go out for a walk or see relatives so long as social distancing. But there seems to be a general mood of oh it's fine we can all just go back to normal - in fact worse than normal, let's all crowd together and have a big old party!

I'm afraid there will be a second wave due to all this irresponsible behaviour and that we will need to go back to full lockdown, putting businesses and people's health in jeopardy. I'm worried that my daughter won't be able to start uni in September. I'm worried that my neices who are doctors will have to deal with the fall out from all this. I'm worried my husband will be unable to get another job. I'm scared and depressed.

And all these fuckers ignoring social distancing are just taking risks with their own lives and everybody elses - when they visit a beach resort or other tourist place they use the toilets, use the cashpoints, visit the supermarkets or corner shop - all prime places to spread the virus far and wide.

I just don't think the message to be careful has been hammered home hard enough.

Don't worry OP, the weather's turned crap now so the tabloids won't be able to print endless photos (taken with telephoto lenses to make people look closer together) of people 'flocking' to the beaches.

Have you not listened to the scientists? The virus is much much less likely to be passed on outdoors. Beaches are irrelevant. Much more worrying is people having private indoor parties with their families and mates. But you don't see those in the papers.

@Hearhoovesthinkzebras you have been watching too much telly, all that advertising doctors and nurses in all that gear working 12 hour shifts without a break or drink, well I work In my local large regional hospital and I can tell you it’s quiet, us nurses have never had such a slow time as this, even my colleagues on the so called «covid wards, they have busy shifts but not unusual to the usual busy, and my ITU friends where all the get up - visors etc, but they regularly break, work usual hours. And the twats you talk of - are they people getting on with their lives?

Please stop blaming the government for people’s stupidity.

There’s a large portion of the population who actually listen to what is being said and following guidelines, really socially distancing etc.

Then you have the covidiots.

Sadly, there’s lots and lots of covidiots.

By all means get on with your life but try to socially distance and don't drop litter.

I think people need to realise that the government isn't really bothered how many people die. I don't mean to sound flippant but they really don't. The government is more interested in getting the economy kick started. The scientists are telling them that easing the lockdown measures this early will lead to thousands more deaths, and they know this but they are ignoring it. They want more people to go out, they know people are going to break the rules but ultimately they want people to catch it so more people can, potentially, build up anti bodies. They know this will also mean an increase in deaths. I have quite a few colleagues who work for Public Health England and they have said that the government is only interested in the numbers being at a manageable level for the NHS to cope. The people that die are, in their opinion, collateral damage. I'll continue to stay at home for now. Stay safe everyone

@Tessabelle1

I genuinely believe the government is hoping to force the second wave before winter

They are, and they know it's going to happen.

Strong language but, also, very very true.
I just wonder how many of you out there who "lent their votes to the Tories" are feeling a bit embarassed right now. I can almost see the guilty ones blushing! Next time do the decent thing and get this set of incompetent hypocrites out of office.

Sadly a pandemic has never EVER been cured because the economy needs it to be....

The sooner people understand this the better

Of course the govt doesn't care how many people die !

When are people going to wake up and understand that the majority of people dying are elderly, and those elderly have pensions from our government .iIf they die 10 years before their time all of this is a big winner... and will offset the cost of furlough...

[quote Marzipancake]@Hearhoovesthinkzebras you have been watching too much telly, all that advertising doctors and nurses in all that gear working 12 hour shifts without a break or drink, well I work In my local large regional hospital and I can tell you it’s quiet, us nurses have never had such a slow time as this, even my colleagues on the so called «covid wards, they have busy shifts but not unusual to the usual busy, and my ITU friends where all the get up - visors etc, but they regularly break, work usual hours. And the twats you talk of - are they people getting on with their lives?[/quote]
What the twats crowding onto beaches and tomb stoning, breaking their backs? I don't know, maybe that is how they get on with their lives. Perhaps you can ask them.when they come into hospital in the near future?

Maybe I am watching too much TV. Not much else to do when I can't leave home because I'm shielding.

What you said @lljkk...

The emotional triumphs over the rational on this, even though the emotional are very likely to blame the Government for not listening to the scientists, even when the Government clearly HAS been listening to the scientists. The scientific data says it’s extremely difficult to catch the virus outdoors - there are close to zero known cases caught outdoors in countries where they have done the tracing. Hence why lockdown easing measures have centred around outdoor activities - with a lot of extra caution like being 2m apart, (even though it would be mega difficult to catch this outdoors even if you were closer than 2m). However the emotional do not want to hear this. They will always find a reason to believe what they want to believe.

As for all the grumbles about litter and parking - this has got nothing to do with the virus, and it’s got everything to do with rude, antisocial people on one hand (and councils who won’t open loos), and NIMBY locals who think that the beaches and parks belong exclusively to them on the other.
I’ve heard people in certain parts of the country say and write incredibly aggressive things about visitors - keep out, go away, you’re not welcome etc - yet will expect those visitors to come trotting forgivingly back to spend their money once the locals finally decide they’ve had enough of having the beaches and dales all to themselves because their economy is about to go under...

Well said.

'Millions died.' No, that would be the 1968 Hong Kong flu epidemic, when the world shut down and they canceled Woodstock.. oh, hang on...

You vote Tory, therefore you get the Tory twats (not saying you did op btw). No use complaining now when socialism has been well and truly crapped upon.
They don't give a shit that it's killing off those with health conditions. More coffers saved as far as they are concerned.
Aside from covid, the world is becoming a very dangerous place.

Well, the protestors in London have put an end to social distancing. I suppose it may depend where you live. A few people are wearing mask and face coverings where I live, and keep their distance if I am wearing a mask too as I tend to glare at them if they get too close! . Maybe all these others acting like it's all over will help to build up a herd immunity that DC advocated. Those of us who really want to be more cautious can look on in our own bubbles and hope that the virus will work its way through them into oblivion! Don't worry about other people, you know what is best for you. You can keep safe, even if others don't seem bothered.

When this is the mind set, how do you change it? Watched three people walk along a pavement on a country road, carrying shopping and drinking cans of something. Then saw one person finish their can and just chuck it into the hedgerow! As if that was quite normal, and they lived nearby too. How do you change this behaviour, start early, in schools and parenting classes! Lack of respect for our environment has got us into this mess. We have destroyed animal habitats releasing zoonotic viruses into the human chain. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

People are ALLOWED to go to Ikea. People are ALLOWED to go to the park. People are ALLOWED to go to the beach. You might not like that but it's the truth.

This! Have seen so many people moaning about stupid people ignoring the lockdown guidelines... these are the guidelines. I’ve been staying local and avoiding these places as queuing traffic in the heat for hours and not being able to distance on a beach is not my idea of a good time but no one is ignoring any guidelines.

OP it is beyond frustrating that people are congregating in large numbers in public parks and on Beaches. I would take the advice of another post and just worry about yourself and your Family. There is very little, sadly that you can do about other people. They will suffer the consequences either by getting arrested for flouting the rules or getting the virus. I am Keeping to myself, walking early in the morning or later in the afternoon when it's quiet . That is all I can do to minimise risk to others and myself.

It's not 'emotional' to think the government guidelines are vague and chaotic and that it's no wonder people are now confused and/or doing what they like, especially when senior ministers didn't bother to follow them at the most important time. I also don't agree that they are listening to scientists, they are listening to what they want to hear to re-open the economy. On the whole the UK complied fine with the guidelines when they were clear - now they are far from that.

I agree with Keir Starmer. It's an exit without a strategy. E.g. suddenly letting the shielded go out, with no consultation, (shortly after damning headlines..). The shambles of MPs lining up to vote two days ago. Anyone who says don't blame the government is kidding themselves that Saint Boris has a handle on things. I agree with a pp, they just want the collateral damage to be manageable to the NHS and have given up caring about the totals.

As has been said many times people just don't give a shit and are self absorbed. There is no spirit of community in this country anyway, it's a country of self, Thatcher's Britain.

I have quite a few colleagues who work for Public Health England and they have said that the government is only interested in the numbers being at a manageable level for the NHS to cope.

Well that was the point of lockdown.

It's not the government's job to stop people getting a virus, they can advise people how to protect themselves better i.e. socially distance outdoors and don't socialise indoors.

It is the government's job to have a functioning economy. They need to get people back to work but in a way that won't overwhelm the NHS. If thousands of people decide they want to descend on Hyde Park or Dorset beaches then that makes the task more difficult all round.

It's not the government's job to stop people getting a virus, they can advise people how to protect themselves better i.e. socially distance outdoors and don't socialise indoors

Like teachers, you mean?

Also I disagree, it is the government's responsibility to prevent more large outbreaks of this virus, that's why Public Health England exists. Their vague advice will help that masses.

@Emmapeeler1

Also I disagree, it is the government's responsibility to prevent more large outbreaks of this virus, that's why Public Health England exists. Their vague advice will help that masses.

to prevent more large outbreaks of this virus.

To the point where the NHS are overwhelmed, yes. But there's only so long you can shut down the economy.

I agree @madamemarie but my point was it's not the government's sole function to have a functioning economy. They are also absolutely responsible for public health. People are concerned that the vague advice leading to the behaviour people are complaining about on this thread will lead to more large outbreaks, a second wave. Possibly in care homes where it can be devastating. Or am I missing the point? It's not wrong to be concerned that the economy is the government's clear priority while recognising it is important. The test and trace system isn't even in place yet. The threat level is still high. The daily numbers are still not reassuring. Other governments are now coming out of this having handled it a lot better. I don't know how people can blame 'the public' over the government's really quite shambolic handling of this crisis. Though that's obviously what Boris wants.