To be absolutely fucking livid

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I'm just feeling so pissed off with the British public right now. Seeing the news stories of people crammed onto beaches, stuck in traffic jams, stupid bloody tombstoners, people queuing for 3 hours plus to get into Ikea, nobody wearing masks, tourists crapping in hedges and leaving all their rubbish behind in my beautiful village - what is wrong with people?!

I realise that Coronavirus may not be as dangerous as it first appeared but it is still here, it's still killing 100's of people a day, it's still bad news for anyone overwight, over 50 or with underlying health conditions.

All these people behaving as if it's "gone away". It hasn't!

I'm livid that the government acted too little too late. We didn't close our borders, we haven't got a proper track and trace in place. We look like idiots. Now they are saying oh it's fine to have BBQ's but bring your own ketchup - for goodness sake!

I do think lockdown should be tentatively eased - as a self employed person I've been happy to start to go back to work but I'm being so so careful with hygiene and social distancing. Baby steps. I also do think people should be able to go out for a walk or see relatives so long as social distancing. But there seems to be a general mood of oh it's fine we can all just go back to normal - in fact worse than normal, let's all crowd together and have a big old party!

I'm afraid there will be a second wave due to all this irresponsible behaviour and that we will need to go back to full lockdown, putting businesses and people's health in jeopardy. I'm worried that my daughter won't be able to start uni in September. I'm worried that my neices who are doctors will have to deal with the fall out from all this. I'm worried my husband will be unable to get another job. I'm scared and depressed.

And all these fuckers ignoring social distancing are just taking risks with their own lives and everybody elses - when they visit a beach resort or other tourist place they use the toilets, use the cashpoints, visit the supermarkets or corner shop - all prime places to spread the virus far and wide.

I just don't think the message to be careful has been hammered home hard enough.

@Dilovescake21 what's wrong with queuing for McDonald's? Is it safer than shopping surely? Just why does it make your blood boil?

I massively resent the 'they'll take their children to the beach but they won't send them back to school comment'!!
As soon as the beaches opened, we went. However, we left home by 7am at the latest (thank goodness for 5am-waking-children eh) and got to the beach, had a few hours and left before it was busy or anyone needed the toilet. Or we have chosen beaches where parking is controlled and limited.
And no, we won't be sending our children back yet?
Want to know why?
My 5 year old is displaying signs of depression. The beach, the sea air and the space helps him immensely. He is so much more like his old self. And we won't be sending him back yet because he is a tactile child who misses hugging his friends, he is sensitive and used to get hugs from his teacher when he was teary. None of those things can happen if he went back now so my reason for not sending him back (not that our school have opened themselves up to R,Y1 and Y6 yet anyway) is for the sake of his mental health which we are supporting in other ways.

Do not tar everyone with the same brush.

Darkrainbowsquid
That’s what you get with an idiot who is PM.

Such an idiot he read Classics at Oxford.

I feel this soo much OP!

I've cried a lot over the past few weeks. My mum, 2 sisters and I suffer from chronic asthma. I havent seen any of them for 4+ months (DH, I and our children live 50 miles away from family and visit monthly). We are staying away, strictly following all the guidance and not taking the children out at all. It's been horrible; as it has for many other families doing the same. So seeing posts on social media about people meeting at beaches and parks, having bbq's; has literally broken my heart. We wouldnt dare make the trip tho. Not for a long while. It's just not worth the risk.
Does feel very much like we and every other decent family in this country are making the nessacary sacrifices for every idot in this country to fuck about, doing what they like regardless. I just dont understand.
There's a very popular beach where we're from and news reports say people drove from up north on the bank holiday for a day on the sand. With their children in tow. Why would you?! The mind really does boggle!

I agree x people are total morans

Your GVT want you dead. We went from a 4 - virus not contained to a 1 - shielded people go party! Lets get the sports in in a weekend. When the 5 conditions have not been met amd deaths are not falling. People want to believe its ok. Cant help but thinking this is Cummings revenge.

Totally agree with OP. This weekend, our local park has been piled high with crap. Barbecues, half eaten burgers and burnt sausages, curries, trays of chips, beer bottles and shitty nappies chucked into the bushes. It’s been a fucking nightmare.

Then, one cheeky fucker, seeing one of my dogs squatting to poo shouted ‘don’t you know kids play in here?’ I ALWAYS clean up after my dogs but I’m half tempted to bloody leave it, hoping these dirty bastards might tread in it!

I’m sick of people, I really am. The amount of rubbish being left is off the scale. Thank god it’s raining now. It might keep them away from the park. Selfish, senseless idiots.

A lot of people are acting like idiots. The message from the government has not been clear or strong enough though. I would think that the way forward is contact tracing and social distancing but if infection rates go up they are usually in a specific area and we will have localised Lockdowns rather than nationwide. Until we get a treatment of vaccine life won't go back to normal 100% . You are right though that the thoughtless selfish actions of the people crowding on beaches etc and driving hundreds of miles to crowd on beauty spots will mean that the virus will spread more easily and everyone will suffer from localised Lockdowns when infection rates rise.

@RainMustFall ‘Such an idiot he read Classics at Oxford.’ My son has a first in law from Oxford. He’s a highly intelligent barrister now but common sense? Sorry, I love him dearly but he has none. Academia doesn’t necessarily lead to dealing with real life.

As an Infectious Diseases nurse, I completely agree with you. I have seen more suffering and death in the last 3 months, than I have seen in the rest of my 20 years service as an NHS nurse, and I just despair. I appreciate that we have to move forward, that some people have to increase their exposure, but if it isn't absolutely necessary then I am pleading with people not to do it. We have to move slowly, and tentatively. I personally don't think I could cope with another round of what I have just experienced, and I know a lot of my colleagues in all areas feel the same, although the truth is, we would, because that is what we do. We need to deal with what we have just witnessed and experienced, if we can ever do that. I just pray that luck is on our side, because luck is all we seem to have left. I have never felt so desperate and hopeless in all my life. We can move forward, but we have to be cautious, we have a long road ahead of us, and so many people will pay the highest price if we do not get it right.

@RainMustFall I don't care if he read classics at Oxford or the Beano in the Park, he is still an idiot.

To think educated people are able to be idiots is ridiculous!

I expect Domiprick Shortcummings is highly educated and no one can deny he's a fucking idiot?

I absolutely agree with you except that the virus is every bit as dangerous as we were first told. 50,000 dead and that is not going to be the end of it. I fit into all the categories you mentioned in your third paragraph, so I'm dieting and we will be isolating for a long time. Yesterday however, I decided to make a quick trip to Asda. I wore gloves and a mask, went to the self checkout and mentioned, to be friendly, to the assistant, that it was my first trip out. She replied 'Oh it's all a load of rubbish. There's loads of people on the beach. I think people wearing masks and all that are just silly'. I assume she looked at me as she said it. But with people like that around I think it will be a long time before this virus abates. I might add, I live in a very popular tourist area and am convinced we will experience a second wave once the crowds arrive in July and August.

It’s just a shame that it doesn’t effect only those who don’t care. I’ve stayed home alone .My grandchildren’s education has been disrupted. I’ve not been able to cuddle them. My son in law has lost his income. These are all sacrifices that we’ve made to save our own and OTHERS lives. And that’s nothing to what the NHS and key workers have done to keep us all safe. Yet these people think having a bit of fun is more important than saving lives. Like I said it’s a shame it’s not only their lives they’re risking. Nearly 40,000 dead in this country alone !

I absolutely agree with the OP. The guidelines and messages have been undermined by high profile people ignoring them (eg Calderwood, Cummings) and weakened by there being different rules in different parts of the UK. I hate how political games have been played, confusing the public message even more! I've lost track of what the current rules are.

I just can't get my head round people gathering in large groups, having parties, attending protests (even though very worthy for the latter) etc. What is going on in their heads? I wonder if these people are as selfish and thoughtless in their regular daily lives.

Totally agree Bignanny

Not necessary to gather in large groups

@Lunar567 my oh is a virologist and has been studying covid-19. Due to irresponsible public behaviour the second wave is expected in 6-8 weeks, and is expected to kill more people than the first. It is naive attitudes that will allow covid to continue, just like the Spanish flu did, which as a nation our government should be learning from. This is of course about money, but at what cost to people's lives? We can recover from a recession, but we cannot bring back human life.

YANBU but I'm many will say you are.

It's a shit show but that's our government for you. What they're doing now is little different to what they originally proposed but at the beginning everyone was up in arms so they clamped down at a later date but at least everyone saw the value in the imposed measures, now everyone is bored, fed up and want to go on holiday so despite the fact 500 people died last week the public and government are ignoring it and pressing in regardless.

It's a damn disgrace and proves literally no one can be trusted to do the right thing.

I'm doing what I think is right and my lifestyle will remain the same as it has for the last 10-12 weeks: social distancing, no school and food shop once a week.

I'm not livid about ordinary people doing what they are allowed to do within the rules set by our government, as why shouldn't they? Particularly when Doninic Cummings has set everyone such a good example.

I am livid with our government changing the rules to ease lockdown contrary to both the advice of the scientists and the government's own 5 tests which make it clear that we should not be easing lockdown until the threat level is down to 1, ie hardly any new cases and a well-oiled track and trace system to ensure any new cases are quickly identified and quarantined.

Instead, we have eased lockdown, opened up schools and are about to open up shops, told people it's ok to travel long distances and even told the shielded it's ok for them to go out.

This will inevitably lead to a huge second wave of unnecessary deaths, and threads like this are just feeding the lie that this is the fault of ordinary people following the rules set by the government to go to beaches, go shopping etc.

No. The fault lies with the government making the rules that put us at risk, not with the ordinary people following those rules because they naively imagine the government has a fucking clue what it is doing or cares about their lives.

The government had to release things a bit, the country just can’t got on supporting everybody that is furloughed etc, they have to get the economy going again, if not the the consequences would be far worse than covid 19. However I am surprised at the attitude of people, I personally dont want covid 19 and I am going to protect people I care about as much as possible. I would give my back teeth to go to a beach but I won’t, I would love to wander around the shops when they open but I won’t. Personally nothing has changed for my family apart from working which i can’t control. We have to do what we are comfortable with and it’s just surprised me the amount of people that don’t seem to really care. But people need to live the way they want and live with the consequences that they may bring. I can say that if I am unfortunate enough to catch covid 19; i would have done everything in my power to avoid it and would have just been very unlucky, many other people won’t be able to say that and I guess they are ok with that.

my oh is a virologist and has been studying covid-19. Due to irresponsible public behaviour the second wave is expected in 6-8 weeks, and is expected to kill more people than the first. It is naive attitudes that will allow covid to continue, just like the Spanish flu did, which as a nation our government should be learning from. This is of course about money, but at what cost to people's lives? We can recover from a recession, but we cannot bring back human life.

@Feedmecaffeine

If your OH is a virologist and he knows about "the second wave" being more devastating than the first then he may want a better forum than MN to advise people!

This reads like the shut Facebook fake posts and only leads to anxiety and worry for people.

I've reported it FYI!

[quote Feedmecaffeine]@Lunar567 my oh is a virologist and has been studying covid-19. Due to irresponsible public behaviour the second wave is expected in 6-8 weeks, and is expected to kill more people than the first. It is naive attitudes that will allow covid to continue, just like the Spanish flu did, which as a nation our government should be learning from. This is of course about money, but at what cost to people's lives? We can recover from a recession, but we cannot bring back human life.[/quote]
You can't expect the public to identify what is and isn't responsible. You can expect them to follow rules.

The problem is not that the public are 'irresponsibly' ignoring the rules, it's that the government is ignoring the science so its rules are dangerous and guaranteed to lead to a second wave.

Stop blaming the public for what are government failures.

If the government introduces a rule saying it's ok for members of the public to take food from shops without paying, don't then blame the public for stealing if they do exactly that.

Why is the government ignoring the science? Why has it eased lockdown contrary to scientific advice and its own 5 tests?

I am not aware that wearing masks are compulsory? Hardly anyone wears a mask from what I’ve seen and the majority of folks don’t act like the way you describe OP.

I think people are getting a bit ridiculous now and I’ve seen many on here that have posted questions such as “should I phone the police on my neighbours as they are having a BarBQ” (or maybe just a good time and folks don’t like it) and it’s pathetic, people really must get a life.

I have seen many other websites where people are personally messaging celebs and giving them a ‘row’ for doing certain things, I mean for fucksake get a life again!

Covid isn’t a high risk as it once was and do you know how many people’s mental health has been affected due to having to stay in, I was just reading today that a 15 year old girl committed suicide due to this lockdown, it isn’t possible to keep going on with staying in.

In order to achieve herd immunity, at least 60% of the population needs to contract the virus. We are way way below that figure. There will be a second wave because of this. In my opinion, people most at risk, i.e. over 70s, those with underlying health conditions etc should be the ones shielding. The rest need to get back out there, practice social distancing and good hand hygiene.

People are not all doing this - please calm down and look for the good, the volunteers, the 2m spacing in most places.

I had a hospital appointment this week. 2 receptionists in the dept, no screen and neither wearing masks. Was seen by 2 clinicians, again neither wore masks.

Saw at least another 5 members of staff, all of whom had no mask on, including the top consultant.

The department in question was the diabetes clinic.