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To think about her all the time

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hotstepper4 · 02/06/2020 12:02

Okay, so a bit of background: I've been married to my husband for two years, we've been together for seven years. I have a son who is nine, he has three children: a daughter who is 11, a son who is 10, and a son who is seven. I've been in the children's lives for six years.

For the most part it's been good. I've always had a good relationship with my stepchildren, and it was so nice for my son to feel that he had siblings.

In particular I was close to my stepdaughter. We always got on so well. I must admit my friends and family have always found her to be rather rude and aloof, and it's true that she definitely could be. She would ignore my friends if we went out or be rude to my mum. I made excuses for her, tell them that she was tired or shy. To be honest I don't think this was the reason. I'm not putting her down, just giving you background that she has always been hard work however we had a bond and I felt that it was mutual.

She started secondary school in September 2019. I was scheduled to collect her from
school thar first day, I remember being really excited about it, to hear about her first day at school.

As soon as she saw me, she ran. I chased after her and caught her arm. Asked her what she was doing. She said she was getting the school bus and going back to her mums. She said now that she was in secondary school she was old enough to decide what she wanted to do with her life. I said no, you're not, it's your weekend with your dad and you are coming with me. Perhaps I should have just let her go but I was so shocked. She came with me but the whole way she was moaning and crying. Eventually after a while I relented, said I'd take her to her mums. Which I did. I didn't understand but Dh spoke to her mum that night and she said she'd bring dsd round the following morning.

The next morning she came back. We tried to talk to her about what happened the day before, but she just clammed up and started crying. Then later she texted her mum and told her to come and get her, which she did. After that, my stepdaughter started sending my husband horrible text messages. Asking him why was he her dad, she hated him, even called him a bastard. Some people said that this had to be her mother speaking, however knowing my stepdaughter as I do, I am sure that it was her.

Since this we have seen her twice. The first time, was in December. She showed up with her brothers unexpectedly, but then became very annoyed that she did not have any Christmas gifts as we were not expecting her, and ran back to her mothers. The second time my husband showed up to collect her from her drama group. She was awful from the outset. She ran up to our bedroom. I went up to ask her what was going on, and she just kept telling me you know you know. I said I don't know I have no idea, and she said you know about how Dad hits me. My husband has never laid a hand on her, and I am 100% confident about this. She then ran out of the house again, back to her mothers. My husband was really worried about her accusations, he was worried about what would happen to his access to his sons if her accusations were taken seriously. So he wrote a letter to her, saying that he will always love her and be there for her, but that he will give her what she wants, and leave her alone.

Since then we have heard nothing at all from her. It has been about five months now. She hides from my husband when he dropped the boys off, and on more than one occasion, he has heard her mother laughing at her hiding herself. He's had no support from my stepdaughter's mother she just says that she doesn't want my stepdaughter to hate her too.

My stepdaughter is turning 12 in August. I think about her every day. I think we should send her a card and maybe a gift. But my husband thinks a card is more than enough. He has been hurt beyond belief by this. He doesn't understand and she's never given any reason or explanation for her behaviour. I don't know how to proceed with it. If you text her she doesn't answer. I think I will send a card and sign it from myself her dad and her stepbrother.

It feels like we will never get her back, and it haunts me. I'll be interested to know what other people would do in this position.

Sorry this is long I dictated it because it's so long but I wanted to be clear about the situation and not drip feed.

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StatementKnickers · 02/06/2020 12:31

DSD is too young to make this decision. Have you taken legal advice?

ineedto · 02/06/2020 12:31

What do you normally spend on the children for birthdays?

Quartz2208 · 02/06/2020 12:32

The actions the shaking do indicate that something has happened.

I am going to be incredibly blunt but the chances that this has all happened from something in her head are incredibly unlikely - she may well be transferring from someone else yes onto him but the kind of behaviours you are talking about dont just suddenly spring from nowhere

hotstepper4 · 02/06/2020 12:32

@StatementKnickers we certainly have and we were advised that due to the fact that she was over the age of 10, her feelings will be taken into account, and she would not be forced into a situation she was not comfortable with.

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Incrediblytired · 02/06/2020 12:32

Family therapy?

lyralalala · 02/06/2020 12:32

Your DSD’s reaction to her father and your DH’s quickness to giving up on her are a very worrying combination

And I know you’ll re-iterate nothing happened but, to be blunt, no one can ever say that with 100% certainty

If your husband has never harmed her why is he not concerned that someone else has? Why has he just given up and walked away?

Has he spoken to her school? Has he got counselling and professional advice on how to handle it?

hotstepper4 · 02/06/2020 12:33

@ineedto About £50. Do you think we should just give this?

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 02/06/2020 12:34

she did not have any Christmas gifts as we were not expecting her Shock

mamaoffourdc · 02/06/2020 12:34

I would arrange family therapy

lyralalala · 02/06/2020 12:34

[quote hotstepper4]@ineedto About £50. Do you think we should just give this?[/quote]
Why would you not?

She is still his daughter so why would you treat her differently?

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 02/06/2020 12:34

she said you know about how Dad hits me. My husband has never laid a hand on her, and I am 100% confident about this

Disgusting.

hotstepper4 · 02/06/2020 12:35

I reiterate, I am 100% certain that my husband has not hurt my stepdaughter. We spent every other weekend together as a family. Sometimes I would take her out, but he would not take her out alone without me. Sometimes he would go out with her and her brothers without me. But it would just be to places like the cinema and again there is no way he would've hurt my stepdaughter without my stepsons telling me about it.

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 02/06/2020 12:36

She has told an adult that her dad hits her. She shakes in his presence. She refuses to see him.

Fucking listen to her.

hotstepper4 · 02/06/2020 12:37

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz Why is it disgusting? Random thing to say. I am 100% sure he hasn't hurt her. Trust me my husband could not say boo to a goose.

And as for the Christmas present thing I urge you to read the full thread as you clearly haven't

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C152H · 02/06/2020 12:37

OP, this sounds like a very sad and stressful situation for all involved. I haven't read any of your other threads, so forgive me if this has already been discussed but, an accusation of abuse is serious. Has your DH talked with your step-daughter's mum about whether there is a possibility someone has hurt her? A bully or a teacher at school? A friend of the family? Perhaps your DH and his ex could find a therapist to help support your step daughter?

hotstepper4 · 02/06/2020 12:37

I'm not saying that something has happened to her. I'm saying that my husband hasn't done anything to her. It could've been someone else and she is projecting onto my husband, I have not ruled this out. However it's very difficult to discuss it when she won't see us.

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hotstepper4 · 02/06/2020 12:39

@C152H Thank you for the reply. Her mother is very unhelpful. She says to my husband that she doesn't want my stepdaughter do you hate her too so she will not ask her to do anything she does not want to do. She she says my stepdaughter becomes distressed when she tries to discuss it so she will not discuss it with her any further.

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lyralalala · 02/06/2020 12:39

Has your husband spoken to her school? Has he spoken to counsellors and taken advice on how to handle the situation?

GabriellaMontez · 02/06/2020 12:40

"I chased after her and caught her arm"
Has become
"I put my hand on her shoulder and asked her to come with me"

So you see I dont want to put words in your mouth but I have a confused image of what actually happened outside school.

hotstepper4 · 02/06/2020 12:40

Yes she was given 10 counselling sessions by the school. They wrote to us to advise that she was having them. However we haven't been told whether she has had them or what the outcome is as I assume it's confidential.

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SuperMedium · 02/06/2020 12:43

Something happened at school that first day of secondary (or something was said) which triggered a memory or slid puzzle pieces into place.

How else did her behaviour and attitude to her father change so completely on one single day?

It isn't her mother or it would have been gradual not a complete abrupt change on that milestone day.

Perhaps someone told her something which made her see her father in a different light.

Are there likely to be children at the school who know or know of her father even though she didn't previously know them?

Also as children grow up they reconsider things they've always accepted and realise that they're not ok with whatever it is after all.

Your DH sounds completely selfish and a dreadful father anyway - making this all about his feelings when he should be incredibly worried about his daughter and reflecting on everything to find the trigger, and trying to get help.

hotstepper4 · 02/06/2020 12:43

@GabriellaMontez I apologise for my choice of words I see where that may have been taken out of context however I never used any kind of force with my stepdaughter, I was just really shocked at her behaviour, I just wasn't expecting it.

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SomeoneElseEntirelyNow · 02/06/2020 12:44

I think you need to reevaluate your opinion of your husband here OP - there is obviously something going on here that you're not aware of.

hotstepper4 · 02/06/2020 12:48

@SuperMedium Thank you for your thoughts. I don't think it was anything to do with what had happened that day. My stepdaughter said herself she had been planning for a while, that when she started high school, she would do what she wanted. I think that's why she was angry to see me that day, as she thought that it would be the first day that she could do as she wanted. She has since said that she had planned it which is what made it more hurtful as we did everything we could to make her happy.

I know my husband doesn't sound like father of the year but he has tried hard, he's sent many text messages telling her that he misses her and that he wants to see her she ignores everyone of them and it is soul destroying for him. I have said before in this thread that I don't approve the fact that he has given up, However he says if she can make up that he hit her how much further could she go. I think he's scared of her.

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Mumoblue · 02/06/2020 12:51

Honestly at this point I'd be calling social services.
This girl is clearly distressed and acting out and all the adults in her life seem to think dealing with it is too much of a fuss.

Not blaming just you and your H, if her mum doesn't want to deal with it either you all clearly need outside help. This girl is obviously in some kind of pain.

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