to think Dominic Cummings should go/thread 4

[SophieB100]

New thread to discuss the cummings and goings of the PM's chief adviser.

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3919707-to-think-Dominic-Cummings-should-go-thread-3

Keir Stamer has gone quiet and segregated himself somewhat from the others calling for resignation etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's quietly lawyering out the back somewhere with a fine tooth comb?

Saw today that his talk during the press conference of warning about coronavirus last year was all lies too! Apparently he edited his blog recently to add it in. The man is despicable. Lies lies and more lies

Yep. Lies lies lies is all they know.

Keir Stamer has gone quiet and segregated himself somewhat from the others calling for resignation etc.

Letting Michael Gove be his spokesperson

😉 sorry couldn't help myself. Made me laugh yesterday.

I am hoping for some good questions for boris later but wont hold my breath.

this will bring the torys down if Boris doesn’t get rid, if a advisor ( puppet master ) can’t follow the rules set out by the government how the hell do they expect everyone else to. I feel for those family’s that have made huge personal sacrifices to follow the rules, it’s like a kick in the teeth

Ah found the Petition,almost up to 800,000 supporters now,keep signing people and share the hell out of it.

On Change.org.

Kier Starmer has gone quiet because a few labour MPs also broke rules and his choosing his words very carefully.
It's more on Twitter than here , but people are keen to bring this up. Mumsnet tends to be more left leaning so it's generally ignored.
The MPs didn't do things as DC did , but they still did things outside the rules during early lockdown days.
I'm furious about all this and think that DC should have resigned , but I'm also convinced that Keir is being careful for a reason as well.
As I said before, it's ripples on a pond!

Someone at Number Ten has been briefing papers with messages which contradicted the PM's message. Who is the Number Ten 'source' who's been issuing misleading and confusing information?

Boris needs to get a grip and root out whoever is undermining him. At the same time, he needs to sack Cummings. This might even kill two birds with one stone. Cummings boasted publicly that 'we' had done all they could to undermine Number Ten when they were at the DfE. He's not to be trusted.

I think Starmer is keeping quiet partly because watching the Tory party do this to themselves does more damage to public trust in the Government than if Labour bayed for blood (particularly if any Labour MPs have followed suit which is likely).

Keir Starmer is biding his time. At the moment the story has momentum. I think if the momentum starts to die down he will have a plan to resurrect it and keep the pressure applied - for now he can sit pretty and watch them tie themselves in knots.

I rather hope Kier Starmer is focusing his energy on checking up on the promises made about Test, Track and Trace systems - I thought they were supposed to be in place before the schools reopened (did I get that wrong?)

DC is a less immediate or worrying issue as I think this will run regardless of his interference.

"when your opponents are destroying themselves, don't interrupt them."

Labour is playing the long game, they can sit back and watch for now and keep focussing on the number of deaths, NHS, care sector etc.
They already got the goverment doing a u turn on the charge for foreign NHS workers.

Thanks for the new thread.

I'm signed up to the emails. All day I've been getting sent emails with the science information from the beginning. It's beginning to feel like propaganda. Like "here's all the science about how not everyone needed to comply to work".

Except all I keep seeing is the important parts that say they must give a clear message and gain trust for it to work

I didn't think Keir was in charge when Kinnock did that?
And the difference is he actually held his hands up and said it was pushing the boundaries (eg the medicine didn't actually have to come from him) and apologised.

when your opponents are destroying themselves, don't interrupt them.

I like that

I rather hope Kier Starmer is focusing his energy on checking up on the promises made about Test, Track and Trace systems - I thought they were supposed to be in place before the schools reopened (did I get that wrong?)

Agree. At the moment I'd rather he asked questions about that.

I will keep asking my Conservative MP about Cummings.

I posted this elsewhere.
50 Tory MPs have broken ranks and 8 Cabinet Ministers (who are remaining anonymous)
Here they are

Indeed, PigletJohn.

Liaison Committee on live at 4pm, BBC Parliament channel, apparently.

Michael Fabricant is finally on a list I approve of. With Peter Boooooown.

Is that list definitely bona fide? Fabricant??

this needs to be on this thread too for more leisurely viewing. Credit on the last thread to @24hoursfromtulsa

Is the parliament committee going to be on bbc one now? Just noticed this was scheduled and update later.

www.theguardian.com/media/2020/may/27/daily-star-dominic-cummings-mask-coronavirus-boris-johnson-adviser

When you're watching Paddy's clip above, please make sure you're wearing your mask