To be hopeful that the pandemic is easing?

[understandmenow]

Today stats

2405 confirmed cases (with more testing)

118 deaths

Two weeks ago (so a Sunday when figures are lower)

3534 cases

268 deaths

Things are improving? Even two weeks after an expected peak (due to VE Day).

We are getting there?

I get more and more hopeful that it won't hit as each day goes by.

Please spare a thought for the people who have a lot invested in the idea of a second spike.

Some of them are looking at an end to their "new normal" of being paid to do nothing.

WHO is currently speculating that the virus may just burn itself out. Hopeful times! That’s completely opposite to what I read on BBC yesterday when it said that WHO is telling people to be aware there might not only be second waves, but second peaks in the first wave.

That being said, the figures are definitely moving in the right direction and I think that we need to look at the here and now because no-one actually knows what the future holds anyway.

I live in hope that the virus burns itself out and that in a couple of years time we say “remember that COVID outbreak? When we went into complete lockdown?” Or even wen people don’t remember what it was like, a bit like swine flu when there were talks of stockpiling and people wearing masks but it didn’t get that far.

But I had swine flu and my then DH had to work from home because of the risk of taking it into London.

But few people remember that now.

That’s completely opposite to what I read on BBC yesterday when it said that WHO is telling people to be aware there might not only be second waves, but second peaks in the first wave

I think what people are referring to is one individual doctor who works for the WHO has said that she doesn't think there will be another 'wave'. However, she is speaking on her own behalf, not that of the WHO.

Fact is, nobody, not even the most renowed experts, really knows what is or is not going to happen.

@Nihiloxica

Rolling death rate down from 943 to 256!

Rolling cases down from 5086 to 1887

That's obvious progress.

And we can meet in groups of 6 from Monday!

Can't wait @Waxonwaxoff0

But then the CMO and CSO said the figures around new cases aren't accurate, that numbers of cases are still concerning and that those of us shielding can't be released until numbers of infections drops substantially - how will that happen if people start mixing more and more?

@Hearhoovesthinkzebras but the numbers are dropping substantially! We need to get the economy going again, that's a fact.

IMO the shielded should be supported financially by the economy going back to work and providing financial help to you.

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Very worrying stats from Brazil and India yesterday. The thought of it taking off in a country country as populous is horrendous. I don’t understand why the Government there is lifting its lockdown just as deaths are increasing.

Chillipeanuts I'm guessing because the mass starvation would be far worse. I genuinely don't see how Western style lockdowns can work in countries with large amounts of very poor people who don't est if they don't earn that day.

@Chillipeanuts our rolling seven day figures are still reducing aren't they?

understandmenow

Yes ours are, more of a plateau really (weekends and Mondays have been consistently low throughout because of data collation).
I was expressing concern specifically about India, though (and Brazil) . The idea of it taking hold there is just appalling. Millions of people won’t stand a chance. It’s a horrifying prospect.
I also worry about Syria and Yemen, though both seem to have disappeared from our news 🤷‍♀️

MaxNormal

Indeed. What a terrible, terrible choice.

Do you know what, if the situation is bad in India and Brazil, that's worrying and frightening and horrible. Poor them. It's terrible to think of how those places will be affected.

I just don't understand the need to come and post that on a lovely positive thread that is bringing a lot of people hope. There is lots of room on the rest of the forum to post about that and find space to talk about how horrible the situation is.

And lockdown is expensive. Poorer countries were always going to struggle to afford it weren't they? There are other complex reasons why they might not be able to manage it - overcrowded slums and shanty towns make lockdown unfeasible anyway.

@Chillipeanuts I was talking specifically about the UK.

Yes the figures are always lower at the weekend and week on week they figures are reducing.

It's the lowest figure today since lockdown started, that's got to be a positive?

Despite the outcry of it will go up following VE Day, we are now three weeks plus and no increase. Despite people predicting it.

*@Larkspurandhollyhocks** I'm confident, let's check back in 5 days time? It's been 16 days to be precise.

*@Larkspurandhollyhocks** my prediction appears to be happening! We are now 24 days post VE Day.

I hope you are right though and it continues this way. So nice to see so many positive posts.

If there were to be an increase in deaths after VE it would not be for another couple of weeks at least but I think its unlikely as really the majority of people were having street parties so were not really mixing in big groups, however Iive in a seaside town and this last 2 weeks has been as if lockdown was not happening at all so that worries me

I am staying positive though and hoping that it will continue easing.

I think it is very unlikely we will see a spike from VE Day now. Granted deaths wouldn’t show but we would have seen an according rise in numbers of infections or hospital admissions after 3 weeks.

I really hope so , I'm hoping it just burns out so we can get our life's back to normal and start planning and looming forward to things again

@larkspur it's just over 2 weeks with it being in the Friday so you would think possibly new cases might jump up as roughly 2 weeks incubation or less in most cases so we are past that , but another week would make sure ans hospital admissions ans death rate if still Down would be good sign

I have just caught up with this thread. It seems that people with colours in their names are more negative overall than those without.

And, with regards to an earlier poster, every time I read a post by 'grumpy orange' I wondered why the 'The Donald' was posting on MN

@strugglingwithdeciding it's over three weeks since VE Day, it was the 8th May.