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Is he Anal or am I in the wrong

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IsHeAnal · 11/05/2020 21:06

Can someone just please tell me if I’m be unreasonable when I tell my partner that he is playing mind games with my girls. This is written in a rush after yet another incident so I’m a bit peed off right now. It’s long and sorry for all mistakes and grammar.

We’ve been together since end 2016. Moved in together end 2018. He moved to my area and we moved into a new place.
He is brilliant with the girls. He never had any children himself. I don’t drive so all after school activities etc that’s not within walking distance he takes and drops them. He treat them. Surprised them this Xmas with one of their favourite music artists (might be cancelled) but just to give you an idea that he does a lot for them.

Now my biggest biggest issue is what I personally call “anal” behaviour. The girls are 12 and 9. From all my friends near and friends who I know who doesn’t live near us my girls go to bed early. Always has either screen time on their iPads or on DD1s phone. If behaviour isn’t good I can just say to them “put your phone downstairs until you behave better etc”. They might be annoyed but they don’t question my choices. My 9 year old is a little like me and will ask me if I’m the boss of her etc or why am I on my phone before reluctantly putting hers down.

I’m now going to list what he does that annoy the hell out of me.

  1. He will hide 9 year olds iPad to test if she will come and hug me in the morning because she “loves” me or because she wants the iPad.
  2. He used to go into DD1s room to hide her laptop as DD1 tend to give her laptop for DD2 to play minecraft. So when he is at work and DD1 needs to do work on laptop we can’t find it. I lost my shit about that so that is the only thing that stopped. And similar he hides DD1s iPad for same reason. But still always come and moan at me that she’s on it when he walks past there bedroom.
  3. He will come and tell me every single time if DD2 is on her iPad or on her sisters gadgets. Every single time. I’ve got screen time on from 9am to 6pm and sometimes extend it depending on if she’s been doing other stuff all day and not been on her iPad. But even though it’s available to use all day she’s limited to 2hrs app time. So if she’s been 2hrs non stop on there she cannot continue on it unless she asks me.
  4. Brushing of teeth: every single night after I’ve kissed them whether they’ve come downstairs or I’ve gone up and told them get ready for bed i.e. pjs on and teeth. He will shout up brush your teeth. He will then pretend to go to the toilet to go and feel if their toothbrushes are wet. And go on and on if one of the girls happened to not have done it.
  5. He now also during lockdown go in every morning and put their toothbrushes in a particular position to see if they’ve moved it. If it hasn’t moved it proofs that they haven’t yet again brush their teeth. And use it against them for something. Every bloody time. Most of the time the girls are currently especially during lockdown in their onesies. So yes tend to forget stuff like brushing their teeth as they tend to have breakfast after JoeWicks and then start school work at 10.
  6. He is constantly onto DD1 about showering. It’s lockdown. Most of the time she finds excuses right now. My thinking is she will struggle and she’ll stink if she doesn’t shower so she’s old enough to know better. He is constantly making note of when she had a shower. So I flipped last week and said what if she starts her period (she hasn’t yet) will you also be on and aware of it all the time. I would have hated that if I was her age.
  7. DD2 is working downstairs as she’s only 9 and DD1 in her own room. Every now and then he will come downstairs and if DD2 is doing anything remotely that doesn’t look school work related he will make comments and reference to it or “questioning” if we are actually doing school work.
  8. Bed time: for years my girls slept 7pm to 7am. Until I started to feel sorry for them as I know their friends sleep later. 2 years ago that was extended to 8pm. Now I personally don’t mind if it’s 8:30 to 9 during term time for DD2 and 9-10 for DD1. Its lockdown so I honestly would not have been all that bothered. But whether it’s normal school days or weekends or holidays he is constantly moaning about bed time. Saying he needs his alone time and chill out time. He goes to bed at 9:15. So most evenings I’m there on my own. I have always been the type of parent who had a 7-7 bedtime routine but flexible with my girls as youngsters so if we were heading to a playgroup or meeting a friend and they fell asleep on their way I’d still go as they’ll sleep in pushchair or they’d fall asleep on their way home but I could always lift them out of pushchair and put them asleep into their cot with no make ups. Their dad was a massive asshole but my girls were very good babies/children.
  9. He hates it when the girls come in for cuddles in the morning as he doesn’t believe kids belong in their parents bedroom let alone if he isn’t there. But will quite happily like a photo of my friend who has 3 kids and her partner who has 2 kids and her having all 5 on her bed.
Please tell me that I have every reason to lose my shit. My biggest worry is my eldest is almost a teenager and she’s going to have friends in and out of our house or want to stay up even later. The girls love him and id hate for them to be older and resent him when he does such a lot for them. But they’d end up resenting him as he behaves like a snitch. Every single time when they are doing stuff that’s very small he runs to me. Every every time. So AIBU to tell him to just bloody stop it and enjoy this age and stage the girls are at as they really are not difficult kids. Please help!
OP posts:
NoShameInNameChanging6262626 · 11/05/2020 21:12

If he was doing this to a partner he would be deemed controlling

Do your children like him?

NoShameInNameChanging6262626 · 11/05/2020 21:13

Sorry just read that you said your girls love him

What do they say about his behaviour? I couldnt be with someone who was behaving like that with my children, it's not normal behaviour is it

Sparklesocks · 11/05/2020 21:15

He sounds really controlling, does it not put the girls on edge having every aspect of their behaviour monitored?

Themostwonderfultimeoftheyear · 11/05/2020 21:15

Sorry but massive red flags here. I think for your girls' sake you need to leave. I don't think I have ever felt the need to say LTB before but this gave me major creeps.

EmeraldShamrock · 11/05/2020 21:16

This would completely turn me off him. He is micro managing in your shadow.
It comes down to acting overly controlling as their Dad, is this what is bugging you? Is their Dad involved. I wouldn't like someone winding up my children.
He is controlling along with some good stuff.

Sparklfairy · 11/05/2020 21:17

He's not 'anal', he's a controlling bully.

Andahelterskelterroundmylittle · 11/05/2020 21:17

Oh God... like having a sneaky big brother/ police officer in the house. It wouldn't work for me. The not letting them come into bed for cuddles would finish me . It's up to you tho as there are obviously good points to counterbalance.

GlummyMcGlummerson · 11/05/2020 21:18

OP, that is very controlling behaviour. Leave him before he does lemme the damage to your girls

Herpesfreesince03 · 11/05/2020 21:20

Why the fuck are you with this man? If he was doing this to you I’d be giving you the number for domestic abuse helplines. Why are you letting him do it to your children??

Mumoftwo1994 · 11/05/2020 21:20

I would ask him to stop this behaviour and they will resent him and act out. I know this because because as a child of parents splitting and then her getting a boyfriend (I was 18, I’m 26 now). Luckily I was never told what to do etc as I was too old but I have 4 younger brothers and my mother lets him get away with that kind of behaviour now and I resent it for them but they hate it too so he needs to change what he’s doing or it will drive a wedge between you and your daughters as they won’t feel protected. My brothers don’t and can’t wait to move out, the youngest is 9 to give you perspective on how bad it can get. (I hope this doesn’t sound judgey, I just want to be honest with you)

DorsetCamping · 11/05/2020 21:20

Hadn't even finished reading Point 1 and alarm bells were screaming in my ears Shock

IsHeAnal · 11/05/2020 21:20

NoShameInNameChanging6262626 2 days ago DD1 said to me that younger DD called him a snitch. And moaned to her about him. She’s the type of child that’s very black and white but mostly ignore everything around her unless it’s genuinely an issue.

They genuinely like him. He has been there before their dad got back in their lives and they are fully aware of how he goes out if his way for things. But I am starting to hear the resentment when I have a go at them mainly because he has annoyed me by yet again moaning about something they did or didn’t do so I then lose my shit to put it mildly.

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EnoughAlready2020 · 11/05/2020 21:21

I think this is beyond damaging. There needs to be a certain level of trust between parent and child and him sneaking around, lurking to catch the kids out is disgusting behaviour. They must feel on edge all the time - and in their home id say that was unacceptable.

JKScot4 · 11/05/2020 21:22

He sounds awful, he’s basically spying on them and trying to control them.
I wouldn’t live with him.

MerryMarigold · 11/05/2020 21:24

If it's constant (several times per day) I'd say controlling.

If he's done each of these things a few times, I'd day it's lockdown getting on each other's nerves. It would annoy me intensely if kids I lived with kept forgetting their teeth or getting dressed. I have 11yos and a 13yo and you sound a bit too lax but he's not their parent at the end of the day. If you disagree fundamentally on parenting then you probably shouldn't have moved in together.

Is tell him he's not their parent and if he has any concerns he should go through you.

BackseatCookers · 11/05/2020 21:24

He isn't being anal, he's being a controlling bully.

Why are you subjecting your girls to someone who is like this?

You say they love him. It doesn't sound like it to be honest, I'm sure they love him when he's being nice but he's being not nice a lot of the time and it's your responsibility as a parent to make the difficult grown up choices that are best long term.

One of those choices sounds like it should be to break up with someone who tramples all over your boundaries, criticises your parenting style, hides the kids stuff from them, constantly tries to catch them out and doesn't listen to your requests re parenting.

He sounds like a dick to be honest.

Nottherealslimshady · 11/05/2020 21:26

He sounds like a bully.

CodenameVillanelle · 11/05/2020 21:26

Do they really love him??? I'd be very surprised

LetsJustGetOnWithIt · 11/05/2020 21:27

This will escalate OP, and at the very least it's not a great example for your girls on how men should be. I'd remove him, he sounds awful.

Washyourhandsyoufilthyanimal · 11/05/2020 21:29

Your girls love him!??? I find that hard to believe. Be careful he will put a wedge between you and your kids. He sounds insufferable at best and a controlling arsehole at worst. I’m leaning towards insufferable controlling arsehole.

JKScot4 · 11/05/2020 21:30

Why does he go to bed at 9.15? That’s his choice yet expects everyone else to suit him.
Your girls are learning men are the boss and they should be obedient and have no right to question anything.

sergeilavrov · 11/05/2020 21:31

YANBU. I think you should tell him exactly what you don’t want happening, and why, and give him an opportunity to respect your wishes. If he doesn’t stop, you find out exactly what he is. If he does, then problem solved.

Is he obsessive about his own personal hygiene? Or yours? Or just your girls? If just them, I’d maybe be a little concerned.

CatBatCat · 11/05/2020 21:32

I only got half way through that but read enough to know he's a controlling bully to your girls. He will get worse.

Windyatthebeach · 11/05/2020 21:32

He isn't trying to catch them out...
Would be considering his motives..

Ricepud20 · 11/05/2020 21:32

It sounds very odd. Ultimately if you’re not comfortable with it (and I wouldn’t be) then tell him that it stops now.

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