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Is he Anal or am I in the wrong

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IsHeAnal · 11/05/2020 21:06

Can someone just please tell me if I’m be unreasonable when I tell my partner that he is playing mind games with my girls. This is written in a rush after yet another incident so I’m a bit peed off right now. It’s long and sorry for all mistakes and grammar.

We’ve been together since end 2016. Moved in together end 2018. He moved to my area and we moved into a new place.
He is brilliant with the girls. He never had any children himself. I don’t drive so all after school activities etc that’s not within walking distance he takes and drops them. He treat them. Surprised them this Xmas with one of their favourite music artists (might be cancelled) but just to give you an idea that he does a lot for them.

Now my biggest biggest issue is what I personally call “anal” behaviour. The girls are 12 and 9. From all my friends near and friends who I know who doesn’t live near us my girls go to bed early. Always has either screen time on their iPads or on DD1s phone. If behaviour isn’t good I can just say to them “put your phone downstairs until you behave better etc”. They might be annoyed but they don’t question my choices. My 9 year old is a little like me and will ask me if I’m the boss of her etc or why am I on my phone before reluctantly putting hers down.

I’m now going to list what he does that annoy the hell out of me.

  1. He will hide 9 year olds iPad to test if she will come and hug me in the morning because she “loves” me or because she wants the iPad.
  2. He used to go into DD1s room to hide her laptop as DD1 tend to give her laptop for DD2 to play minecraft. So when he is at work and DD1 needs to do work on laptop we can’t find it. I lost my shit about that so that is the only thing that stopped. And similar he hides DD1s iPad for same reason. But still always come and moan at me that she’s on it when he walks past there bedroom.
  3. He will come and tell me every single time if DD2 is on her iPad or on her sisters gadgets. Every single time. I’ve got screen time on from 9am to 6pm and sometimes extend it depending on if she’s been doing other stuff all day and not been on her iPad. But even though it’s available to use all day she’s limited to 2hrs app time. So if she’s been 2hrs non stop on there she cannot continue on it unless she asks me.
  4. Brushing of teeth: every single night after I’ve kissed them whether they’ve come downstairs or I’ve gone up and told them get ready for bed i.e. pjs on and teeth. He will shout up brush your teeth. He will then pretend to go to the toilet to go and feel if their toothbrushes are wet. And go on and on if one of the girls happened to not have done it.
  5. He now also during lockdown go in every morning and put their toothbrushes in a particular position to see if they’ve moved it. If it hasn’t moved it proofs that they haven’t yet again brush their teeth. And use it against them for something. Every bloody time. Most of the time the girls are currently especially during lockdown in their onesies. So yes tend to forget stuff like brushing their teeth as they tend to have breakfast after JoeWicks and then start school work at 10.
  6. He is constantly onto DD1 about showering. It’s lockdown. Most of the time she finds excuses right now. My thinking is she will struggle and she’ll stink if she doesn’t shower so she’s old enough to know better. He is constantly making note of when she had a shower. So I flipped last week and said what if she starts her period (she hasn’t yet) will you also be on and aware of it all the time. I would have hated that if I was her age.
  7. DD2 is working downstairs as she’s only 9 and DD1 in her own room. Every now and then he will come downstairs and if DD2 is doing anything remotely that doesn’t look school work related he will make comments and reference to it or “questioning” if we are actually doing school work.
  8. Bed time: for years my girls slept 7pm to 7am. Until I started to feel sorry for them as I know their friends sleep later. 2 years ago that was extended to 8pm. Now I personally don’t mind if it’s 8:30 to 9 during term time for DD2 and 9-10 for DD1. Its lockdown so I honestly would not have been all that bothered. But whether it’s normal school days or weekends or holidays he is constantly moaning about bed time. Saying he needs his alone time and chill out time. He goes to bed at 9:15. So most evenings I’m there on my own. I have always been the type of parent who had a 7-7 bedtime routine but flexible with my girls as youngsters so if we were heading to a playgroup or meeting a friend and they fell asleep on their way I’d still go as they’ll sleep in pushchair or they’d fall asleep on their way home but I could always lift them out of pushchair and put them asleep into their cot with no make ups. Their dad was a massive asshole but my girls were very good babies/children.
  9. He hates it when the girls come in for cuddles in the morning as he doesn’t believe kids belong in their parents bedroom let alone if he isn’t there. But will quite happily like a photo of my friend who has 3 kids and her partner who has 2 kids and her having all 5 on her bed.
Please tell me that I have every reason to lose my shit. My biggest worry is my eldest is almost a teenager and she’s going to have friends in and out of our house or want to stay up even later. The girls love him and id hate for them to be older and resent him when he does such a lot for them. But they’d end up resenting him as he behaves like a snitch. Every single time when they are doing stuff that’s very small he runs to me. Every every time. So AIBU to tell him to just bloody stop it and enjoy this age and stage the girls are at as they really are not difficult kids. Please help!
OP posts:
thethoughtfox · 11/05/2020 21:33

Get your poor children away from this.

Aquamarine1029 · 11/05/2020 21:34

I can't even imagine how bad he's going to be when the girls are teenagers. Your partner is controlling and just fucking creepy. It's like he's stalking them in their own home.

amusedbush · 11/05/2020 21:36

He sounds awful, to be honest. I'd tell him to either pack it in or get out.

Megan2018 · 11/05/2020 21:36

Jesus Christ. I can’t believe you are allowing this!!
Protect your children, run.

lyralalala · 11/05/2020 21:37

They may very well love him; abused people often still love their partners, abused children love their parents. Love isn't a good indicator that someone is a good person.

Would you be happy if he was monitoring you in the way he does them?

Are you happy with the constant suggestion that you are a shit parent and need him to check up on the girls?

I wouldn't be putting up with any of that. No chance would I want my daughters (or sons, but especially daughters) to think that that level of micromanagement from a man is a good thing.

tara66 · 11/05/2020 21:38

It seems odd behaviour - rather obsessive. Does he have nothing else to occupy his time?

madcatladyforever · 11/05/2020 21:38

If someone did that to my kids they would be dumped, he is trying to control every aspect of their lives and is jealous of the time you have with them. It's all kinds of wrong.

Nestofvipers · 11/05/2020 21:39

He’s a horrible bully and he is damaging your daughters.

this gave me major creeps. me too. I can’t pinpoint exactly why it gave me the creeps, but it has done and I sense there is more to this which you aren’t aware of.

ImDillDandin · 11/05/2020 21:41

Get your daughters away from that man.

JKScot4 · 11/05/2020 21:43

@Nestofvipers
Me too, made me shudder.
The girls are entitled to their privacy, I’ve always knocked my DC doors from about age 10, whereas this creep is constantly checking on them, I doubt they get any privacy.

Cattermole · 11/05/2020 21:43

Ahhhh bollix to it, I'm going to say the thing that I think other posters might be wondering also - is there do you a think a sexual interest to his control? It just seems really excessively... intimate?

JudyCoolibar · 11/05/2020 21:45

I really doubt that your daughters love him. They may say so to you because they think it's what you want to hear.

lunar1 · 11/05/2020 21:47

He sounds like an absolute creep, get rid of him. This behaviour is appalling, even more as they become teenagers. There would be no second chances form me.

ChandlerIsTheBestFriend · 11/05/2020 21:48

I got as far as him mentioning the periods and stopped.

He’s a creep. Get him gone.

Bluntness100 · 11/05/2020 21:48

He’s not brilliant with them, he’s horrible. He’s a controlling bully and picking them up or buying them shit doesn’t make him brilliant when they have to live like this every single day.

Would you like it? To live like you’re forcing your children to?

If he can’t control his nasty little ways then end it, your children will grow up and resent you for it if you don’t.

Waveysnail · 11/05/2020 21:48

So what does he say when you talk to him? Hiding electronics- not ok. Does he have an issue with how much screen time they have?

My husband is much more routine orientated during lockdown so insists on getting dressed and showered where I'd leave them in pjs. I check tooth brushes and place them to make sure the kids have brushed their teeth as to me that's important and yes I will take them back upstairs and make them brush if tooth brushes are dry. Does he think you are not parenting enough? You need to have a serious chat with him.

Windyatthebeach · 11/05/2020 21:49

At one point I bet Fred West's dd loved him...

MattBerrysHair · 11/05/2020 21:49

I find his behaviour incredibly unsettling. His obsession with catching your dd's out is really fucked up, bordering on creepy, and will probably lead to resentment and alienation as they get older.

He doesn't respect your parenting capabilities at all, otherwise he wouldn't feel the need to take control of the situation himself, massive red flag. He also doesn't respect your dd's autonomy and thinks it's fine to micromanage their every action, another huge red flag. If my dp did any of these things to my dc's I'd throw him out. If that is not something you are prepared to do yet then you need to define and assert your dd's boundaries, give him and ultimatum and stick to it.

audweb · 11/05/2020 21:50

I honestly couldn’t let a man treat my daughter like that. Does he know you are the actual parent? His behaviour sounds awful.

Khione · 11/05/2020 21:51

He's a bully, he really is.

ChandlerIsTheBestFriend · 11/05/2020 21:51

Sorry, I’ve misread. You mentioned the period.

Even so, he’s still a creep keeping a note of how often a 12 year old girl showers! Hmm

Seriously get him out. His behaviour is so far beyond the realms of appropriate.

You need to do some work on boundaries OP. Your daughters will need to be re educated on what is appropriate to keep themselves safe in future. Currently you aren’t teaching them appropriate boundaries. Get him out and get yourself some re education.

Colom · 11/05/2020 21:51

Honestly OP, I have two girls also and the thought of some random dude moving in and behaving this way with them gives me the rage to even think about!

As I read through your list I have to admit I also became angry at YOU. YABU to allow this man to control your DC. I would never, ever allow this to happen. That list is crazy long and you have already "lost your shit" with him. He's not going to change! This is the misery you're inviting into your children's lives for the rest of their childhood. What's it going to be like when they're teens? Hell I imagine. Giving them lifts and the occasional treats does not counterbalance this. Get rid of him.

Willow2017 · 11/05/2020 21:51

He isnt anal he is a bully and controlling. Hiding things, telling tales for absolutely no reason, resenting them? He sounds like a spiteful child. They have no privacy or a chance to be kids without him checking up on them
Put your girls first tell him to get to fuck.

Ciunasbotharcailinbainne · 11/05/2020 21:51

Some of the comments here are really extreme.. I’m trying not to belittle his behaviour and I know this is how abuse starts in some situations but sounds to me like he’s struggling to find his place in your family to be honest. He’s not sure how/if he can discipline your daughters and also struggling with how to engage them in activities that don’t involve screens.

Is he not working right now which means he can see what’s happening with homework and stuff? He’s probably quite stressed if he’s not working and wondering what value he adds to the family. You say he brings the girls to activities which I’m guessing have stopped right now too so he’s likely feeling pretty redundant.

I think you need to have an honest conversation about parenting together. You’ve only lived together for 2 years which is quite short. If you want it to continue successfully, you need to set your expectations.

Bluntness100 · 11/05/2020 21:53

I can’t pinpoint exactly why it gave me the creeps

It’s the creeping about and hiding their stuff and checking their toothbrushes. It’s weird as fuck and creepy with it.