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Is he Anal or am I in the wrong

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IsHeAnal · 11/05/2020 21:06

Can someone just please tell me if I’m be unreasonable when I tell my partner that he is playing mind games with my girls. This is written in a rush after yet another incident so I’m a bit peed off right now. It’s long and sorry for all mistakes and grammar.

We’ve been together since end 2016. Moved in together end 2018. He moved to my area and we moved into a new place.
He is brilliant with the girls. He never had any children himself. I don’t drive so all after school activities etc that’s not within walking distance he takes and drops them. He treat them. Surprised them this Xmas with one of their favourite music artists (might be cancelled) but just to give you an idea that he does a lot for them.

Now my biggest biggest issue is what I personally call “anal” behaviour. The girls are 12 and 9. From all my friends near and friends who I know who doesn’t live near us my girls go to bed early. Always has either screen time on their iPads or on DD1s phone. If behaviour isn’t good I can just say to them “put your phone downstairs until you behave better etc”. They might be annoyed but they don’t question my choices. My 9 year old is a little like me and will ask me if I’m the boss of her etc or why am I on my phone before reluctantly putting hers down.

I’m now going to list what he does that annoy the hell out of me.

  1. He will hide 9 year olds iPad to test if she will come and hug me in the morning because she “loves” me or because she wants the iPad.
  2. He used to go into DD1s room to hide her laptop as DD1 tend to give her laptop for DD2 to play minecraft. So when he is at work and DD1 needs to do work on laptop we can’t find it. I lost my shit about that so that is the only thing that stopped. And similar he hides DD1s iPad for same reason. But still always come and moan at me that she’s on it when he walks past there bedroom.
  3. He will come and tell me every single time if DD2 is on her iPad or on her sisters gadgets. Every single time. I’ve got screen time on from 9am to 6pm and sometimes extend it depending on if she’s been doing other stuff all day and not been on her iPad. But even though it’s available to use all day she’s limited to 2hrs app time. So if she’s been 2hrs non stop on there she cannot continue on it unless she asks me.
  4. Brushing of teeth: every single night after I’ve kissed them whether they’ve come downstairs or I’ve gone up and told them get ready for bed i.e. pjs on and teeth. He will shout up brush your teeth. He will then pretend to go to the toilet to go and feel if their toothbrushes are wet. And go on and on if one of the girls happened to not have done it.
  5. He now also during lockdown go in every morning and put their toothbrushes in a particular position to see if they’ve moved it. If it hasn’t moved it proofs that they haven’t yet again brush their teeth. And use it against them for something. Every bloody time. Most of the time the girls are currently especially during lockdown in their onesies. So yes tend to forget stuff like brushing their teeth as they tend to have breakfast after JoeWicks and then start school work at 10.
  6. He is constantly onto DD1 about showering. It’s lockdown. Most of the time she finds excuses right now. My thinking is she will struggle and she’ll stink if she doesn’t shower so she’s old enough to know better. He is constantly making note of when she had a shower. So I flipped last week and said what if she starts her period (she hasn’t yet) will you also be on and aware of it all the time. I would have hated that if I was her age.
  7. DD2 is working downstairs as she’s only 9 and DD1 in her own room. Every now and then he will come downstairs and if DD2 is doing anything remotely that doesn’t look school work related he will make comments and reference to it or “questioning” if we are actually doing school work.
  8. Bed time: for years my girls slept 7pm to 7am. Until I started to feel sorry for them as I know their friends sleep later. 2 years ago that was extended to 8pm. Now I personally don’t mind if it’s 8:30 to 9 during term time for DD2 and 9-10 for DD1. Its lockdown so I honestly would not have been all that bothered. But whether it’s normal school days or weekends or holidays he is constantly moaning about bed time. Saying he needs his alone time and chill out time. He goes to bed at 9:15. So most evenings I’m there on my own. I have always been the type of parent who had a 7-7 bedtime routine but flexible with my girls as youngsters so if we were heading to a playgroup or meeting a friend and they fell asleep on their way I’d still go as they’ll sleep in pushchair or they’d fall asleep on their way home but I could always lift them out of pushchair and put them asleep into their cot with no make ups. Their dad was a massive asshole but my girls were very good babies/children.
  9. He hates it when the girls come in for cuddles in the morning as he doesn’t believe kids belong in their parents bedroom let alone if he isn’t there. But will quite happily like a photo of my friend who has 3 kids and her partner who has 2 kids and her having all 5 on her bed.
Please tell me that I have every reason to lose my shit. My biggest worry is my eldest is almost a teenager and she’s going to have friends in and out of our house or want to stay up even later. The girls love him and id hate for them to be older and resent him when he does such a lot for them. But they’d end up resenting him as he behaves like a snitch. Every single time when they are doing stuff that’s very small he runs to me. Every every time. So AIBU to tell him to just bloody stop it and enjoy this age and stage the girls are at as they really are not difficult kids. Please help!
OP posts:
AcrossthePond55 · 13/05/2020 13:08

You've done the right thing. Now you can focus on your exams instead of being distracted by his controlling ways.

cellotape · 13/05/2020 13:22

Good luck OP with your exams. You've definitely done the right thing. Your girls will thank you one day having a mum they can look up to. How stressful for you right now.
I wish my mum had had the guts to throw my own biological father out so I speak from experience when I say they will know and they will be grateful.Thanks

BackseatCookers · 13/05/2020 13:36

@clanecy

Worth remembering that your attitude towards people sharing their deeply personal and painful stories is what can unfortunately help predator hide in plain sight as you've basically told OP and other people they should ignore a strong gut feeling that something really isn't right despite her saying clearly that her girls are uncomfortable.

BackseatCookers · 13/05/2020 13:37

Sorry that was meant to say @Clancey

Mammatino · 13/05/2020 13:40

@FizzyGreenWater I think you are misunderstanding me or I have expressed myself badly. Earlier in the thread I had commented to say I found his actions chilling and incredibly worrying, I agreed. I meant that the posts afterwards accusing the OP of being a terrible mother for not responding instantly to a mumsnet thread were from people forgetting that OP was dealing with a break up in real life and two possibly very traumatised children. Why would she drop all that to come and update strangers on the internet? I think her priority would be her children and there were people accusing her of being a bad mother and putting “a cock” before her kids, those people forgot that she was dealing with a real life situation. I certainly didn’t post “aw hun talk to him”.

Changedfor · 13/05/2020 13:50

You’ve done the right thing, I hope that things didn’t get as far as sexual abuse but be prepared that they may have. I personally would discuss with your girls why you asked him to leave. Talk to them about how you felt he was invading their privacy and discuss boundaries with them, show them you don’t think it’s ok for another person to do that.

@B1rdbra1n @BackseatCookers @CaptainAthena @Graphista

Thank you for your supportive words, we are a few years out the other side and we are all doing well. I am more proud of my brave, articulate, determined and resourceful child than I could ever express and her brother who was faced with this awful knowledge of a Father he loved. My lasting memory will always be a conversation where my daughter told her brother it was ok to still love their Father and he didn’t need to choose between them, he said he would always choose her.
We were surrounded by family and friends who told her you have nothing to be ashamed of, you did nothing wrong, don’t hide, be proud that you were brave enough to speak out, you are loved and you are believed.
We had friends and family that took care of everything when we were just trying to make it through the day. I had a wonderful boss that told me to take as much time as I needed off and paid me for it, then changed my work hours completely to suit me because I couldn’t do those hours anymore.

I don’t know what will happen or how the children will be affected in the future but I do know that they will always be surrounded by people that support and love them and that is what makes the biggest difference.

maria860 · 13/05/2020 14:28

I've had this situation and I don't think it's healthy they may like him now but they won't forever

maria860 · 13/05/2020 14:37

Sorry OP I read both your updates people can be harsh I hope your ok

FizzyGreenWater · 13/05/2020 16:06

@Mammatino - apologies! Yes, I probably have quoted you out of context then most definitely. Sorry, I did just take the sentence and used it to illustrate my OWN point which I hope was clear, but I see from your explanation that it certainly didn't lead on well from what you were trying to say. I see where you are coming from, so sorry for misquoting you.

Mammatino · 13/05/2020 16:25

Thank you. I really appreciate it. I do see your point and I’m so glad OP has had some really good strong advice here too and some Have been able to share very distressing stories to help highlight it. The poor family, I hope they are all ok and it’s helped shine a light on things for others. People still don’t realise how prevalent CSA still is, they are skilled manipulators, they sneak into your life with one objective and they destroy everything for their own gratification.

Graphista · 13/05/2020 16:49

@Changedfor so glad you've all had that support.

Feelings for an abuser can be deeply complex, not only for the abused but the rest of the family. Because nobody is all bad.

But each person and family while not allowing an abusive situation to continue must decide for themselves how they handle that

Schoenes · 13/05/2020 17:29

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DonttouchthatLarry · 13/05/2020 17:37

Well done OP - a brave decision. I hope your exams go well and good luck for the future for you and your daughters.

To all those who've shared their personal stories on here - my heart goes out to you. 'My Dad the Paedophile' happened to be on tv last night after I'd been reading this thread and the 3 women on there had similar tales to tell.

MrsPotatoHeadsSheeWee · 13/05/2020 17:44

Well done OP. Well done.

Please don't allow him to try to talk you out of this when you do discuss with him why you ended the relationship.

He may be using this time to perfect his excuses and explanations. Don't allow him to talk you out of ending things.

Newschapter · 13/05/2020 18:01

I'm also a victim of csa (my father) and I recognised the act of going into the bedrooms for innocent things, this normalises it so when they're entering it later it won't be alien or draw attention Sad

You're an amazing woman, a brilliant mother, I hope your exams go great and that you're OK.

scrambledtofu · 13/05/2020 18:02

Well done op

agonyauntie2020 · 14/05/2020 02:42

Bravo OP. You did it. Hats off.

Lynda07 · 14/05/2020 04:07

You've done well! So quickly too, didn't expect that. I'm impressed, you go girl. Better things are ahead for you and your children. I hope you do really well in your exams.
Flowers

EverdeRose · 14/05/2020 11:09

@IsHeAnal you are amazing, a warrior, a magnificent giant of a woman and a fabulous mother to two very lucky girls.

You've saved those girls and yourself from what could have been a tragic situation all while taking your exams.
I know from dealing with a controlling parent how much happier and calmer your house will be and how laughter will start to return now he's gone.

I'll warn you he's going to try and come back by sweet talking and putting on an act, so be prepared. Once that fails he'll turn nasty so be prepared for that too. Make sure your girls know not to let him in.

I hope this is the start of you're amazing new life with your two girls. Good Luck!!

Herpesfreesince03 · 14/05/2020 12:16

Thank god you’ve got that freak away from your children! This has been on my mind for days.

ChandlerIsTheBestFriend · 14/05/2020 12:22

you are amazing, a warrior, a magnificent giant of a woman and a fabulous mother to two very lucky girls.

Ok, op has acted appropriately to safeguard her DC, that’s it. Let’s not get carried away. It’s quite patronising.

Inkpaperstars · 14/05/2020 14:33

I have no idea why my comment upthread was deleted. I don't mind at all but if anyone reported it could you explain what I did wrong just for future reference.

FloggingMoll · 14/05/2020 15:01

@Inkpaperstars Did it reference a previously deleted thread? I've had ones deleted for directing swearing at someone (now I just throw it around indiscriminately).

Inkpaperstars · 14/05/2020 15:12

MNHQ have kindly explained to me that my post was seen by some as victim blaming. I did not intend to do that at all but I fully understand and if there was any sense of that then it is best it was deleted.

ArthurandJessie · 15/05/2020 02:02

OP I'm sorry you feel some people were treating this as a soap opera I was genuinely worried about your girls and couldn't stop thinking about them after reading this thread ! Well done for acting now I hope you pass your exams and have a successful and happy future as a family

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