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Is he Anal or am I in the wrong

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IsHeAnal · 11/05/2020 21:06

Can someone just please tell me if I’m be unreasonable when I tell my partner that he is playing mind games with my girls. This is written in a rush after yet another incident so I’m a bit peed off right now. It’s long and sorry for all mistakes and grammar.

We’ve been together since end 2016. Moved in together end 2018. He moved to my area and we moved into a new place.
He is brilliant with the girls. He never had any children himself. I don’t drive so all after school activities etc that’s not within walking distance he takes and drops them. He treat them. Surprised them this Xmas with one of their favourite music artists (might be cancelled) but just to give you an idea that he does a lot for them.

Now my biggest biggest issue is what I personally call “anal” behaviour. The girls are 12 and 9. From all my friends near and friends who I know who doesn’t live near us my girls go to bed early. Always has either screen time on their iPads or on DD1s phone. If behaviour isn’t good I can just say to them “put your phone downstairs until you behave better etc”. They might be annoyed but they don’t question my choices. My 9 year old is a little like me and will ask me if I’m the boss of her etc or why am I on my phone before reluctantly putting hers down.

I’m now going to list what he does that annoy the hell out of me.

  1. He will hide 9 year olds iPad to test if she will come and hug me in the morning because she “loves” me or because she wants the iPad.
  2. He used to go into DD1s room to hide her laptop as DD1 tend to give her laptop for DD2 to play minecraft. So when he is at work and DD1 needs to do work on laptop we can’t find it. I lost my shit about that so that is the only thing that stopped. And similar he hides DD1s iPad for same reason. But still always come and moan at me that she’s on it when he walks past there bedroom.
  3. He will come and tell me every single time if DD2 is on her iPad or on her sisters gadgets. Every single time. I’ve got screen time on from 9am to 6pm and sometimes extend it depending on if she’s been doing other stuff all day and not been on her iPad. But even though it’s available to use all day she’s limited to 2hrs app time. So if she’s been 2hrs non stop on there she cannot continue on it unless she asks me.
  4. Brushing of teeth: every single night after I’ve kissed them whether they’ve come downstairs or I’ve gone up and told them get ready for bed i.e. pjs on and teeth. He will shout up brush your teeth. He will then pretend to go to the toilet to go and feel if their toothbrushes are wet. And go on and on if one of the girls happened to not have done it.
  5. He now also during lockdown go in every morning and put their toothbrushes in a particular position to see if they’ve moved it. If it hasn’t moved it proofs that they haven’t yet again brush their teeth. And use it against them for something. Every bloody time. Most of the time the girls are currently especially during lockdown in their onesies. So yes tend to forget stuff like brushing their teeth as they tend to have breakfast after JoeWicks and then start school work at 10.
  6. He is constantly onto DD1 about showering. It’s lockdown. Most of the time she finds excuses right now. My thinking is she will struggle and she’ll stink if she doesn’t shower so she’s old enough to know better. He is constantly making note of when she had a shower. So I flipped last week and said what if she starts her period (she hasn’t yet) will you also be on and aware of it all the time. I would have hated that if I was her age.
  7. DD2 is working downstairs as she’s only 9 and DD1 in her own room. Every now and then he will come downstairs and if DD2 is doing anything remotely that doesn’t look school work related he will make comments and reference to it or “questioning” if we are actually doing school work.
  8. Bed time: for years my girls slept 7pm to 7am. Until I started to feel sorry for them as I know their friends sleep later. 2 years ago that was extended to 8pm. Now I personally don’t mind if it’s 8:30 to 9 during term time for DD2 and 9-10 for DD1. Its lockdown so I honestly would not have been all that bothered. But whether it’s normal school days or weekends or holidays he is constantly moaning about bed time. Saying he needs his alone time and chill out time. He goes to bed at 9:15. So most evenings I’m there on my own. I have always been the type of parent who had a 7-7 bedtime routine but flexible with my girls as youngsters so if we were heading to a playgroup or meeting a friend and they fell asleep on their way I’d still go as they’ll sleep in pushchair or they’d fall asleep on their way home but I could always lift them out of pushchair and put them asleep into their cot with no make ups. Their dad was a massive asshole but my girls were very good babies/children.
  9. He hates it when the girls come in for cuddles in the morning as he doesn’t believe kids belong in their parents bedroom let alone if he isn’t there. But will quite happily like a photo of my friend who has 3 kids and her partner who has 2 kids and her having all 5 on her bed.
Please tell me that I have every reason to lose my shit. My biggest worry is my eldest is almost a teenager and she’s going to have friends in and out of our house or want to stay up even later. The girls love him and id hate for them to be older and resent him when he does such a lot for them. But they’d end up resenting him as he behaves like a snitch. Every single time when they are doing stuff that’s very small he runs to me. Every every time. So AIBU to tell him to just bloody stop it and enjoy this age and stage the girls are at as they really are not difficult kids. Please help!
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Pisspotical · 11/05/2020 21:53

Alarm bells are ringing here.
It sounds as if your partner may be taking a sexual interest in your daughters?
I might be completely wrong, but it all sounds very creepy and calculated to me.

BackseatCookers · 11/05/2020 21:54

You need to do some work on boundaries OP. Your daughters will need to be re educated on what is appropriate to keep themselves safe in future. Currently you aren’t teaching them appropriate boundaries. Get him out and get yourself some re education.

This is a really important point too.

PogoBob · 11/05/2020 21:54

I find this really worrying and you are not in the wrong to be annoyed by it

This is the type of behaviour my 9 year old sometimes shows when trying to get her younger brother into trouble with me - and I feel the need to explain that she only does this when he has been really winding her up showing that it's not even 'normal' for a child to display this type of behaviour

Is he able to explain why he feels he has to tell you everything he perceives them as doing wrong in this way - what is he hoping to achieve?

ImsotiredImsotired · 11/05/2020 21:54

I would never tolerate this in my house with my children. Why are you allowing this 🙁

Lynda07 · 11/05/2020 21:54

Your man sounds seriously weird. I don't think I have ever come across someone who behaves quite like you describe here. I know it annoys you but because you are living with it/him, I don't think you recognise the actual 'weirdness'.

Your children love him because he is all they've got! If they could step out of the relationship and view it from an outsider's perspective they would no doubt feel quite differently. That will happen one day. Their friends will see it before they do.

Do you really need this man in your life? I mean, really need?

As I was reading your opening post there were alarm bells going off in my mind but I couldn't work out why.

RandomMess · 11/05/2020 21:54

Just every kind of wrong, you need to move him out!!!

Ellisandra · 11/05/2020 21:54

Are you going to wait until he’s checking how many used tampons your 12yo has put in the bin, and quizzes her on why it’s not the number year he deems correct, before you STOP HIM?

Bluntness100 · 11/05/2020 21:54

He’s not sure how/if he can discipline your daughters and also struggling with how to engage them in activities that don’t involve screens

Cmon, he’s hiding their screens and secretly checking their tooth brushes, it’s weird as fuck. Who does that.

EatDessertFirst · 11/05/2020 21:55

Definately sounds really creepy. Monitoring your 12yo DDs showers? Why?

You need to protect your daughters. He is bullying them. Hopefully the fact you all 'love' him won't blinker you so much that you think your daughters growing up like this is normal. Gives me the creeps just thinking about him touching their toothbrushes and checking up on them. Grim.

carlywurly · 11/05/2020 21:56

This is actually quite chilling to read. it's really fucked up. I cannot imagine dp ever noticing or commenting on this stuff with my dcs. Unless one of them had rolled in fox shit he wouldn't notice the need to shower.

Like a pp said, this has an intimate focus. It's almost grooming you all to accept an invasion of boundaries.

Given the ages of your dds I wouldn't wait to see how this evolves. I'd honestly be getting him out.

sunflowersandtulips50 · 11/05/2020 21:56

god i couldnt read your entire list of nastiness that you allow him to do to your DC....he is a dreadful bully and is abusive. Set some higher boundaries for your self and protect your kids from this man

Queenoftheashes · 11/05/2020 21:57

This is so creepy and controlling. He’s been living there about a year and a half? So he’s not like a dad to them is he? Doesn’t sound like he has any business being so obsessed with their movements. And wtf is with hiding their stuff so they can’t do work? And moving in in so recently and imposing his own stupid rules? Tell him to fuck off.

titchy · 11/05/2020 21:57

At one point I bet Fred West's dd loved him...

Saddest thing I ever read was that Rose West's abused daughter sent her mother Mothers Day cards 'To the best mum In the world' while she was in prison Sad

OP - what the actual fuck - where are your boundaries woman? He's groomed the lot of you.

mummymayhem18 · 11/05/2020 21:59

Not normal behaviour. Very weird. Get rid as can't risk having that type of behaviour around your children.

JKScot4 · 11/05/2020 21:59

Apart from the weirdness, he sounds like a nasty clipe who is trying to drive a wedge between you and your DDs, “look I’m right, they’re bad kids”
Seriously get rid asap.

Hopkinsscar · 11/05/2020 21:59

Creepy, emotionally damaging and abusive.

Bluntness100 · 11/05/2020 22:00

It’s the whole thing, it’s so wrong. Constantly asking about showers, positioning their tooth brushes to catch them out, hiding their screens, setting them tests to see if they love their mum or if they just want the screens. It’s weird and really creepy.

I just can’t understand how you’re still with him op. It’s all so very disturbing. You need to get rid of this man. You really do

Queenoftheashes · 11/05/2020 22:00

Also who touches someone else’s toothbrush? Ew.

MrsHound · 11/05/2020 22:02

You need to step up and protect your girls from this man. He is weird and very very inappropriate around your daughters. If it was me his feet wouldn't touch.

ellzebellze · 11/05/2020 22:03

This is sneaky and bullying, and really the sort of thing that spiteful children might do to get someone else into trouble, not an adult and parental role model.

He has to stop doing this, it's awful. Do you really want them to learn this behaviour and think it's normal? Because it really isn't.

I'd read him the riot act on this one.

ChandlerIsTheBestFriend · 11/05/2020 22:03

OP I guarantee you that your daughters (and very possibly you) will breathe a massive sigh of relief when you tell them he is gone and won’t be back. I promise you. They may appear to like him but they are living under his cloud right now. They may not feel able to voice it to you but they are definitely feeling it.

Please put them first and act with their interests in mind.

Quartz2208 · 11/05/2020 22:04

put your kids first - he is controlling and awful. He is micromanaging them it is suffocating just reading that let alone living it

He ISNT brilliant with them. Even the things he does is about control (Driving them places)

He tests her by hiding her Ipad and toothbrushes that is abuse and emotionally very damaging

it sounds like death by a 1000 cuts

suchclearwater · 11/05/2020 22:05

Get you and your dds far far away. NOW.

Candyfloss99 · 11/05/2020 22:05

The bushing the teeth sounds ok. Surely he's only making sure they keep their teeth cleaning. He also may not feel comfortable with them in the bed with him which is fair enough. The micro controlling of screens and bedtime is weird.

Bluntness100 · 11/05/2020 22:06

Can you imagine living with someone who was doing this to you though! Hiding your stuff, secretly setting you little traps, checking up on you. Spending twelve hours a day in your room, no choice, The damage that would do to you?