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To think Nicola Sturgeon is deluded

338 replies

Sadie789 · 07/05/2020 13:05

... if she thinks that people who want to exercise twice a day aren’t already exercising twice a day.

And that if Boris eases lockdown restrictions on Sunday that the whole of Scotland is going to accept being trapped at home for another three weeks?

And that the shops and takeaways and other businesses that are already opening up are going to suddenly revert back to a strict lockdown?

And that the “economy can recover”?

Really?

This is a crazy agenda.

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Namechange30000000 · 07/05/2020 17:57

At least she gives people an idea of what’s going on ahead of time. She’s said all week there was unlikely to be change. Imo people have got a lot of false hope pinned on Sunday’s announcement because we haven’t got a clue what’s going on.

AudacityOfHope · 07/05/2020 17:57

Right? I can't really picture them holding up under the kind of public questioning she submits to every week. And you never get the sense that she's bullshitting or blustering or covering up.

MintyMabel · 07/05/2020 17:59

She is scoring points, always releases the info before England does

She has fewer people involved in the process, of course she can do it sooner.

So last week when the press were calling for a plan to ease restrictions she started talking about schools going back/opening shops/reducing the lockdown measures

She never said any of that. It was widely misreported.

Yes the media shouting about highest death counts without taking into account population size is so irresponsible, many people believe these hysterical headlines without actually looking at the facts.

The other thing people never seem to get when they are wittering on about us being worse than Italy is, at no point did we ever (or are we likely to ever) get to the situation where we had to choose who to save because of a lack of provision in the healthcare system. I’d consider that a good thing.

slashlover · 07/05/2020 18:00

And you never get the sense that she's bullshitting or blustering or covering up.

Especially when she actually answered a question today with "I don't know but I will find out."

TraceySpeaker · 07/05/2020 18:00

Nicola's hair cut photos clear staged
Who owns two pairs of scissors of hairdressing scissors.
Let me be clear....

JKScot4 · 07/05/2020 18:06

@tracey
Anybody that buys them 🤣
I’ve got hairdressing scissors, clippers, mixing bowl, brushes etc
FFS the pathetic comments on here, yet all hail bawjaws 🤣🤣

SidSparrow · 07/05/2020 18:08

I've voted SNP in the past but on this occasion NS can take a hike! I don't agree with the lockdown strategy. Some people, including scientists, disagree with it. I would rather our efforts went into protecting those who are vulnerable instead of shutting down the country which will destroy people's lives and create an abundance of more social problems. There is an issue with care homes, so why can't they deal with that? That's where the resources and efforts are needed! Not policing a healthy joe public. Whoever heard of putting healthy people into quarantine? No-one. Everyone going about living in fear for a virus that most of us would barely notice if we got it. You've got to ask yourselves what's the real agenda here, because one thing if for sure, the tories never gave a monkeys about the vulnerable before, nor the nhs, so why all the hoo-haa now?

MissEliza · 07/05/2020 18:10

@MintyMabel I agree with your point. At least everyone who needed care got it and were treated with dignity. Also been very little mention of the appalling situation in care homes in Spain. Some old people were actually abandoned in care homes and in one, the army found some old people lying dead in their beds. That's horrific. Yet we've handled it the worst in Europe. Hmm

WaxOnFeckOff · 07/05/2020 18:11

Again, I'm not buying how we were in a better position when we locked down but now we are worse. It might be accurate but it smells.

I have no agenda, I'm fairly antisocial and I work from home. If it wasn't for the economic situation, I could keep this up for much longer personally :)

Easilyanxious · 07/05/2020 18:12

100's of threads with same old thing Scotland voted ns in so will have to follow here rules ( not keen on her myself ) but she is the leader . England restrictions will be lifted gradually and very slightly and again each nation has to look where they are in the pandemic and there demographics etc , doesn't mean she's better than Boris or vice Versa both having to make tough decisions trying to balance an economy and a pandemic , but you know what maybe they should just consult MN because so many on here know so much better .

Easilyanxious · 07/05/2020 18:13

@ Lily193 exactly but people read a headline and then quote it plus it's not over yet

Oaktree55 · 07/05/2020 18:18

She’s giving more of a clear honest message. The fact remains we’ve got a huge amount of community transmission still. Even lifting early June in a minor way will require a lockdown again September onwards. Can’t escape the maths!

Australia has a handful of cases and is only just opening up slowly. We have hundreds of thousands of cases. Where do you think we’re headed?????

MissEliza · 07/05/2020 18:19

I am very disappointed that the leaders of the home nations aren't coming together. We are in this together. I think it raises anxiety when we are hearing different things from different people.

spacewitch99 · 07/05/2020 18:24

I think your post should be re-titled...
‘Who is more deluded - Boris or Nicola?’
I wish that we in Scotland could do what New Zealand has done. And I think that our FM could have achieved this.
Incidentally, Wales isn’t coming out of lockdown at the same time as England either...any comments on that? No. Because it doesn’t suit people’s political agenda.

ChangeThePassword · 07/05/2020 18:24

I've voted SNP in the past but on this occasion NS can take a hike! I don't agree with the lockdown strategy. Some people, including scientists, disagree with it. I would rather our efforts went into protecting those who are vulnerable instead of shutting down the country

And this is the perfect illustration of why she'll never be able to do right for doing wrong.

She is already getting loads of criticism for not doing things exactly the same as Boris. Can you imagine the furore if she had unilaterally (within the four nations) decided to not implement lockdown at all!

tava63 · 07/05/2020 18:26

isn't Arlene Foster taking same stance as Scotland and Wales?

Snowdrop30 · 07/05/2020 18:27

Not at all. I trust her judgement and am abiding by the rules. I have several friends and relatives who are vulnerable and shielding. I love them and want to do what's right by folks in that position. There is nothing so urgent, that we can't wait for the sake of other people's lives.

Jayfeem · 07/05/2020 18:28

“I detest the woman. I can’t understand how anyone thinks she’s more diligent than Boris - she missed 6 Cobra meetings, he only missed 5, but he gets all the stick”

She attended all scottish meetings on the matter. Cobra is to do with England and Wales. Whether you like it or not Scotland is a different country with devolved health.

formerbabe · 07/05/2020 18:30

She comes across as hideously smug.

StoorieHoose · 07/05/2020 18:32

Smug? Compared to Boris and Gove?

Give over

lyralalala · 07/05/2020 18:33

isn't Arlene Foster taking same stance as Scotland and Wales?

Now, now. The fact that Wales and NI may do things differently is perfectly acceptable.

It's only NS and Scotland that are uppity and gazumping Boris...

Well, according to some on here and the daily fail anyway

MintyMabel · 07/05/2020 18:35

doesn't mean she's better than Boris or vice Versa both having to make tough decisions trying to balance an economy and a pandemic

And doing so with a different set of parameters to work with. One of the main arguments for devolution was that a centralised government doesn’t work so well for Scotland. These types of decisions need to take in to account differing national priorities. It’s the kind of thing devolution was made for.

SidSparrow · 07/05/2020 18:35

Smug?

Anyone from Scotland coming across as self-assured and confident tends to be interpreted as smug. We're supposed to be humble and ever grateful to our english masters Wink jokes

MintyMabel · 07/05/2020 18:37

She comes across as hideously smug.

There are many adjectives I’d use to describe her, and none of them good, but I’ve never thought her smug. Maybe because her predecessor was so smug, I’ve lowered the bar.

slashlover · 07/05/2020 18:37

I am very disappointed that the leaders of the home nations aren't coming together. We are in this together. I think it raises anxiety when we are hearing different things from different people.

So do you think they should fall in line behind England or, as Nicola has suggested, move on the timeline of the slowest nation?

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