To think Nicola Sturgeon is deluded

[Sadie789]

... if she thinks that people who want to exercise twice a day aren’t already exercising twice a day.

And that if Boris eases lockdown restrictions on Sunday that the whole of Scotland is going to accept being trapped at home for another three weeks?

And that the shops and takeaways and other businesses that are already opening up are going to suddenly revert back to a strict lockdown?

And that the “economy can recover”?

Really?

This is a crazy agenda.

I personally think the death rate is far too high to be thinking about lifting lockdown, I think boris is thinking money over life if he starts lifting restrictions on Monday, I’m not a fan of Nicola sturgeon however she seems to be the only one me talking sense and Is actually thinking about lives!

I can see a huge second wave of this hitting us if boris starts lifting restrictions on Monday.
Lockdown should have being tougher.

She made a speech fairly recently where I'm sure she made a comment about how we had to have an adult conversation...or something like that, don't quote me exactly. I found it incredibly condescending.

Whoever heard about putting healthy people into quarantine @sidsparrow ?? Apart from most of the nations in the world ... are you trying to suggest that NS has gone crazy and taken a different approach to the rest of the world's leaders?

I’d never trust Sturgeon. She only cares about her agenda. That’s it.

Why do you think people vote for political parties? It's always because they support their agenda.

Unfortunately, Johnson and his merry band took their positions with only agenda item - brexit. They weren't put there by 'The Elite' to do anything other than that. They certainly weren't put there for their political talents as they're a bunch with an awful political and social history.

I trust Ms Sturgeon far more to do what's best for Scotland. I trust Johnson to do what's best for Johnson.

...it’s not 600 a day in Scotland

LOL
Why is that, I wonder?

@MintyMabel yes I agree AS was smugness personified

@Sadie789
It’s time to balance the lives lost to COVID with the lives, and livelihoods, lost to lockdown.

So which of your children parents friends are you prepared to see die just so people can go to McDonald's again?

I found it incredibly condescending.

I found it exactly the opposite, as did most people I believe.

She's trying to put across the fact that we shouldn't have to be locked up like animals in order for us to follow the guidelines. She's being honest and upfront with the figures and the issues - something which is lacking with the WM crew. Their lack of transparency and honesty is certainly not conducive to treating the public like adults.

It's the opposite of condescending to point out that you can have an adult conversation with the public

Some people will post crazy shit about Nicola Sturgeon no matter what she says or does. I don’t see her doing anything other than being entirely sensible

So which of your children parents friends are you prepared to see die just so people can go to McDonald's again?

It's not about that...

The economy will be fucked.

Which friends and relatives of yours are you prepared to see repossessed? How many suicides are you willing to tolerate? How many deaths from cancer and other non covid illnesses are you willing to see whilst people are not using the nhs? How many children are you willing to see living with abuse because their support networks are cut off? How many educations and careers ruined?

It's not because we all want a McDonalds fgs.

She's playing good cop bad cop .The only deluded people are the ones who think we sit inside for a few months and CV disappears.
We are going to have to accept people will die from this . We all have a choices and if people want to lockdown for months on end they can they don't have to be told
We are one of the fattest and unhealthiest population in europe combined with people not complying thats why we have a high death rate . But instead of people taking responsibility for health and weight easier to blame government .

It's the opposite of condescending to point out that you can have an adult conversation with the public

Oh it really is if you're an adult speaking to other adults...

@AudacityOfHope

No, I'm not suggesting that NS has got it wrong. I do however think that the lockdown strategy is wrong. I disagree with NS on extending it. It'll be interesting to see all the figures once this is over - especially how Sweden's numbers compare to those countries who chose the lockdown approach.

So which of your children parents friends are you prepared to see die just so people can go to McDonald's again?

It's not about that...

The economy will be fucked.

The economy was already fucked. Top heavy corporate-driven, ecologically-unsustainable, billionaire-owned gangsterism. Time to rip it up and start again - but let's try killing as few citizens as we can while we do it.

I cant see Boris lifting many restrictions so NS probably just saying the same as he will . Someone up the thread said its an illness you wouldn't even notice if you had it really? how deluded! well apart from dying as thousands have sadly proven. My daughter has had it she is young and fit and is still getting really horrible ongoing residual symptoms 7 weeks later and we have been told by Doctors that this is far more common that first realised. The lockdown should continue nothing has changed, I really hope Boris doesn't lift it and say good luck everyone go out and take your chances!

The economy was already fucked

You ain't seen nothing yet

Time to rip it up and start again

My god, you're deluded if you think that's going to happen.

My god, you're deluded if you think that's going to happen.

Oh I'm not deluded. I know it's not going to happen. The populations of the West will happily go back to their old ways as soon as they can. Bread and circuses. But the system is still fucked and is not sustainable. Too many people wanting too much stuff and not caring about who gets hurt in the process of them getting it.

Oh it really is if you're an adult speaking to other adults...

Have you seen what's happened to the UK because of politicians in the last few years? There's been a distinct lack of adult conversations with the publice, just plenty of mind-games, propaganda and lies.

Don't forget - half of the population has a below-average IQ.

Luckily, the Scottish public haven't been as successfully manipulated as some have been and Nicola is acknowledging that.

Yep - point scoring - trying to tell Scotland she will converse with them in an adult conversation then deciding what she will do.

Also she's really just followed Westminster's lead in any case - I can't be arsed with her anymore

Also she's really just followed Westminster's lead in any case - I can't be arsed with her anymore

It's the very opposite. She announced separation measures before they did and forced their hand. Johnson wasn't going to close schools and lock England down if she hadn't announced it for Scotland.

You can thank her for saving some English lives.

@rwalker exactly

Also she's really just followed Westminster's lead in any case - I can't be arsed with her anymore

People really need to make up their minds.

She's either following the lead or jumping too quick an over-stepping her position by making decisions that are not up to her.

She can't possibly do both

It’s not NS who is deluded here...

She puts her own party ideology before the Scottish people. They're a horrible cult-like party who want their cake & eat it. No wonder care homes in Scotland couldn't trust the Scottish government to give them money for ppe.

I don't know why people are stupid enough to vote for them and their horrible divisive ugly nationalism.