Meghan Markle story time

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Posting here for the traffic and so this is read by a diverse pool of people - not just royal fans...

I really like Meghan Markle and I admire her for carving her own way and being a feminist in her choices. I like that she waited after the birth for photos and spoke up about the metoo movement etc.

As much as I like Duchess of Cambridge, I don’t think she does anything to advance women. She seems to do what is expected of her which people love but which I find awful. She has a responsibility as a role model for young women but yet Seems to be the perfect, painfully thin, upper class wife that does as she is told, rarely speaks and is every sexist, wealthy, white man’s dream.

I’m a little lost as to why people seem to be pro Kate and anti Meghan. Is it because Kate is what all middle class women aspire to be in England. Doing as one is told ? Being a softly spoken English lady that wears tweed and frolics in the country while her husband is on a boys ski trip etc etc

Have we all forgot about feminism ?

Christ all you like.

You can no more prove she is a paragon of virtue and hard done by than I can prove she is as bad as her family allegedly are.

I’m not trying to prove she’s a paragon of virtue.

But suggesting she’s a dick because her father is strikes me as ... an uncomfortable ... position to maintain.

My ex husband beat me within an inch of my life - literally. Just like his father did to his mum.

I know about bad apples.

We know nothing about them really yet there are plenty saying all of the allegations and stories are lies and not a hint of truth to them. How do you know?

Did you read the article?

Yes I did.

and all "three levels" are still split into sides.

They could well be a couple that wants to start a new life away form the publicity, but they are still courting the publicity.

They are "inescapably royal" yet they could still leave it all behind. Other royals have.

And the "storytellers" the press or "gutter press" and yet they have there own storyteller in the book that is due to be published.

The bias is always there, and we will always lean towards the bias that we agree with.

Exactly. I didn't mean to suggest it was good.

So you meant to come over as racist ?

She might just be managing to be a dick without any help or advantage from her family at all.

... ... (?) away you go with me maintaining a position as well. It was a suggestion. A thought.

None of us know. I don’t. You don’t.

How do you know?

I dont know.

But the number of ‘stories’ from actual named sources is incredibly small. Beyond family (and we know how problematic they are).

We have a press with a vested interest in tearing her down. Read that article and you’ll see what’s going on there. And a public all to ready to believe the worst of her and click on the links.

The amount of very innocuous stuff she’s been pulled to bits for, I’m not putting any store on a ‘source’ from the mail.

Just like we have no way of knowing her father is a dick. He could just be hurt and lashing out to wound. I have no idea.

“In my opinion, Kate does what she is told.

Megan doesn't. “

Well how on earth do you know that? Because you’ve seen her in Hello magazine? Kate could be completely insane behind closed doors. Or maybe she is very calm and controlled, as many people are, so what we see is just her true personality and nobody is telling her to do anything at all. Well, no more than anyone else has to vaguely conform to their job; or being a mum or wife in day-to-day life. I mean what is she supposed to do?

As for MM - who knows? Maybe it’s Harry who used her as a way out of the UK. Anything could be going on, or not. What do you actually want her to do?

Just like we have no way of knowing her father is a dick. He could just be hurt and lashing out to wound. I have no idea.

I find it very hard to justify a fathers actions in going on tv to stir the shit about his own daughter who’s already been torn apart by the press.

We know he did that. We watched it with our own eyes.

I don’t know anyone personally who would do that to their child. No matter what their child had done. Not a single person.

No one should be pulled apart for eating avocados or wearing wedges. Who said that was ok.

But everyone I would bet in that family has been pulled apart for something.

Not realising that or supposedly not knowing who Harry was (doubt that) does not tie in wit’s her being an intelligent woman.

It isn’t right. I never said it was. But you can’t paint her family with media ‘truth’ and then say everything about her is media lies.

He didn’t pull her apart.

He pulled her And Harry’s supposed actions apart.

He didn’t sit down and call her a bastard repeatedly.

Like I said, in my opinion! Nobody actually knows!

I think people become obsessed with taking sides and believing in the crap they read. I feel sad for them both. I dont take sides, I do believe they have ripped into Megan, for her and Harry's choices! Which is a bloody disgrace.

You're completely disingenuous, OP. I hope this thread gets pulled. Vile.

They achieved their objection though I’m sure lying

I have no bun in this fight. I just dislike goady opening posts and opinions being shot down.

Comparing Kate and Meghan is like comparing feathers and blancmange.

Two different women. Two different opinions on what it takes to make their world tick. Each to their own. But don’t kid on that only MM has had a rotten time of it in the press because Kate did too. As did Camilla. And Di. And Fergie. It isn’t right and it isn’t fair but it isn’t only aimed at MM.

@monkeycats Just had a read through some peoples comments and you can clearly see the people who live in a box on this thread!

Releasing a lovely video of little Archie's birthday and ignorant, rotten people dissect every second of it. Rather than looking at it as a celebration of a childs 1st birthday. That is the disgusting world of society, with their rules, conditions and shoulds.

Absolutely, AwrightDoreen and Oxfordnono, I just don't understand it at all.

@LaurieMarlow "...shes a dick..." because of her father's choices/behaviours?

Oxfordnono12 you are absolutely right.

Oxford that was in a response to me I think.

Someone wrote that Mm’s family were hideous. I wrote that sometimes apples don’t fall too far.

As said, I’ve no bun in this fight but you can’t say that someone is hideous and say someone isn’t when they are covered by the same press.

It could be good apple for all I know. I never actually said she was a wrong un.

Because I don’t know. But some on here seem to.

The Duchess of Cambridge does her job, the one she knew she married into, the one that is paid for by taxpayers. That job is to support HM the Queen.
We have zero idea what she's like in her own environment.

Weight is a feminist issue whether you like it or not.

Because only a fat woman can be a feminist.

See, it is wrong and Unfeminist for a woman to be slim, fit and healthy, physically capable and able to participate in various activities. Oh no, that's bad, that's unfeminist.

What is feminist is for women to be unfit and overweight, staying at home in the kitchen, eating. And contending with various health issues that sooner or later will arise as a result of doing that. Now that's feminism at its finest.

So go, women, be fat and fabulous goddesses. Pleasure comes from eating and only eating, anyone who finds pleasure in other activities, especially physical exercise, and eats what they need and not necessarily what they want, is clearly disordered. And unfeminist.

I know for fact, If i.had racist family members from growing I would invite them either. I did read about the sister being racist towards Meghan's mum because she was the step mum. The other siblings not liking her when she lived with her dad and that was why she never spoke to them. A man marrying a black woman does not remove racism from other family members including half siblings.

@BellaCiaoBellaCiaoBellaCiao 🤔 I’m extremely confused.

I meant weight is a feminist issue in a general sense. Men expect us to be thin, women are valued for how they look, society wants us to be thin, we spend a lot of time And energy worrying about how we look. It has occurred to me that Kate is far thinner than before her engagement. She is natural my skin but in some photos she appears to be underweight. I’m just saying what I honestly think - she does. Perhaps she just really loves exercise and it’s all genetics. I however think she’s under intense pressure + that no it much has changed since the days of Diana.

I guess it doesn’t matter, isn’t our business etc etc.

It’s her life and she is able to live it as she chooses.

I guess I just worry about us as a society and as women. That in order to be liked you have to be thin, conservatively dressed, homely and middle class.

It’s not Kate’s fault But it’s just kind of a reminder of how sucky it is to be a woman even in 2020.

to be a success you basically have to be thin, juggle kids and a job, dress conservatively, have Olympic body and work out ferociously, wip up cupcakes and do home craft activities and act like you love your in love with your in-laws and their traditions. Oh work with your husband to squash Press intrusion as some disturbing rumours have come to light in the US media.

It’s exhausting and I can see why Meghan was like “later”.

Why worry about things you cant controll? The only thing ive learnt to worry about are my family; the people under my roof. Society has no place if it judges and demoralises people for who they are. So long as your kind and compassionate and if not, try to be. Life can be too bloody hard at times, why take on extra stress of other peoples thoughts.