Meghan Markle story time

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Posting here for the traffic and so this is read by a diverse pool of people - not just royal fans...

I really like Meghan Markle and I admire her for carving her own way and being a feminist in her choices. I like that she waited after the birth for photos and spoke up about the metoo movement etc.

As much as I like Duchess of Cambridge, I don’t think she does anything to advance women. She seems to do what is expected of her which people love but which I find awful. She has a responsibility as a role model for young women but yet Seems to be the perfect, painfully thin, upper class wife that does as she is told, rarely speaks and is every sexist, wealthy, white man’s dream.

I’m a little lost as to why people seem to be pro Kate and anti Meghan. Is it because Kate is what all middle class women aspire to be in England. Doing as one is told ? Being a softly spoken English lady that wears tweed and frolics in the country while her husband is on a boys ski trip etc etc

Have we all forgot about feminism ?

I'd suggest it says something about both

Does that mean I'm to blame for my mother being abusive? I'm sure she'd agree that I made her do it (if she ever admitted ever doing any of it in the first place, which is unlikely). And I'm sure my violent ex agrees with you.

@MouthBreathingRage yes, it is sad. I do feel sorry for Meghan having such a dysfunctional family. Maybe that is partly down to her, but maybe it’s not - we can’t say, these things are usually very complicated. Families can be very difficult. It was nice that her mother came to the wedding and Prince Charles seemed very kind and gentlemanly towards her - it was a lovely wedding. The whole situation is sad.

Would have thought she'd have least have dressed him up nice. Vest and nappy, no toys or party balloons and no Harry. What strange games they play.

Oh the ignorance of people who claim that people from unhappy families are to blame. It infuriates me how sheltered people are. Is it that you want to think you did something right to be born into a happy family ? Is it that blaming victims abusive families helps you rationalise misfortune ?

I was sexually abused by my father. I grew up with a Mother who called me “Fat, useless c__t” on my 8th Birthday - she forgot to wish me happy birthday. She literally had 20 different boyfriends growing up. My parents were educated, wealthy and attractive and nobody would hVe believed what happened behind closed doors.

Years later when I confronted my Dad about the abuse, his family found at and told me I was a horrible person for making up lies.

My elder sister was more abused than I was and ended up mentally traumatised and in hospitals for the better part of her 20’s.

Neither of my parents talk to their brothers and sisters.

You can not Begin to imagine the darkness that some children grow up in.

I am a loving a devoted Mother and studying post graduate law at a top university. I’ve created an amazing life for my child. I’ve done that through separating myself from my
Family because “loyalty” as a daughter/niece is not as important as protecting yourself and your child.

You can’t begin to know the struggles of others and I am glad that so many of you sheltered women don’t have to.

However I find the lack of depth, empathy and understanding of people to be quite despairing. That you can’t even imagine what people go through.

I can’t imagine that a father like Thomas Markle who sells his daughter down the river, was a stable person to grow up with. The way he has humiliated her in the press and the lengths that family have gone to, to use the media to bully her into speaking to them/inciting them to her wedding is emotional abuse. I find it hard to believe they started being like this when she became a royal.

I don’t think he has humiliated her at all. Probably all a scam, they’re working together.

Would have thought she'd have least have dressed him up nice. Vest and nappy, no toys or party balloons and no Harry. What strange games they play.

It’s this kind of batshittery

Who cares what he’s wearing, he’s one. Maybe they had balloons, just not in the clip. Maybe they didn’t, maybe he’s scared of them, or Meghan hates them. Who fucking cares?

Perhaps people could just refrain from criticising every. single. thing. she does.

Would have thought she'd have least have dressed him up nice. Vest and nappy, no toys or party balloons and no Harry. What strange games they play.

Uhu.

Would have thought she'd have least have dressed him up nice. Vest and nappy, no toys or party balloons and no Harry. What strange games they play.

Their PR teams would carefully plan their videos. In Archie’s first birthday video it’s clearly styled a certain way. She’s clearly gone for a relaxed, Malibu vibe. Her makeup is very tanned, nude and fresh and her hair - like she’s dried off after a beach swim. She’s gone for a very beachy natural look. I think they’re sending the message that they’re happy, relaxed and so their choice to leave is ‘right’ and seen in a good light.

I’m sure people will disagree because they want to think that they’re just normal people who rock up on a video however they want but seriously thought goes into it.

MouthBreathingRage

We will have to agree to disagree.

The media puts spin on everything through tone and editing.

I see there's more defence of her horror of a father as well. People spout how awful she is with no evidence, yet are quite happy to feel sorry for her father who is a proven arse.

Well surely that works both ways. Where's the evidence he's an "arse". Oh yeah the papers told us, must be right.

Where's the evidence he's an "arse". Oh yeah the papers told us, must be right.

No.

We saw him go on TV and stir the shit about his own daughter with our own eyes.

Primary evidence.

No reporting. No ‘sources’.

A grown man selling his own daughter down the river.

I like both Meghan and Kate but i agree Kate is much more conformist. She has done what it takes to thrive in the spotlight.

How can you agree with this, when you’ve only been exposed to a few flimsy stories a heavily biased press has fed you?

Well there’s no point in believing anything is there.

You know, for a site where users regularly tell other users to go NC with family members because they looked at them funny, I'm finding all of this concern for Meghan's family somewhat vexing.

OP, the thing is, when it comes to MM and C, nothing really matters. None of us know them or what goes on in their lives or has gone in in their backgrounds. We can’t decide that they should “stand for feminism” and then criticise them when it’s not the right type of feminism. They are just two people. Yes they’re attractive women, but so are loads of women. The DH’s are what they are, but let’s face it, if they weren’t royal and you saw them in the street, would you give either of them a second. glance? No, I don’t think so. Why have any expectations of these people or draw comparisons / conclusions about anything? It’s very odd.

Well there’s no point in believing anything is there

Of course there is. Just apply some intelligence.

Take your info from respectable sources (not trashy red tops).

Mentally check what bias the reporter might be applying before reading.

Don’t trust anything from an unnamed ‘source’ (that’s 99% of the shot written about Meghan covered right there). If they won’t go on record, they’re not worth listening to.

Easy.

Read this. Educate yourself.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/19/there-is-a-reason-why-royals-demonised-but-wont-read-all-about-it-prince-harry-meghan-markle

I find her irritating and Harry, (many 'celebs' in fact), they court the media when it suits and want a celebrity lifestyle. Fine but that's not what the royal family is, you have certain obligations and expectations, it's a job, just a very well paid one.

You can’t begin to know the struggles of others and I am glad that so many of you sheltered women don’t have to

Again with your sweeping statements and us ‘sheltered women’ and your ‘despair’ OP. What next? Be kind?

Yet you turn round and say you can’t begin to know the struggles of others?

You don’t know anything about my life. And I will bet some others here have had desperate times in their life. But I can assure you my life has not been easy or bloody sheltered. Still. I will count my bastard sheltered life as lucky when I wake up in an absolute blind panic/screaming/hidden in a cupboard.

I see your life hasn’t been a bed of roses and I’m sorry for that. But you know sweet fuck all about what some of us have endured so do one with (yet another of) your sweeping generalisations.

In my opinion, Kate does what she is told.

Megan doesn't.

Which do you think is easier to flame?

When you stay inside the box there is no issue therefore, completely conditioned with a tiny bit of leeway. When you're outside the box you cant be controlled/ conditioned therefore you cause a problem. The 'problem' one is usually the most honest/pure/brutal. People dont like this, they like perfection/fiction/easy.

MMs family are hideous though

And sometimes apples don’t fall too far from trees.

Imagine saying that kind of thing to women posting on here about their difficult families.

‘You come from a family of dicks so good chance you’re one too’

Christ

@MouthBreathingRage

I really am not sure what you're alluding to here, but whatever it is, it's not good.

Exactly. I didn't mean to suggest it was good.

LaurieMarlow

But what you are saying is that there is an acceptable bias.

That you are prepared to accept that bias from some sources than others.

The proof is that you have provided a link to a source that you agree with, it shares your bias therefore it must be correct.

That you are prepared to accept that bias from some sources than others.

I’m saying that some sources are inherently more trustworthy than others. Much of this has to do with how they source news, manage their sources.

Did you read the article?