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Neighbours son with autism and all-day verbal stimming.

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MonkeyJunk · 06/05/2020 10:34

I know I am being unreasonable, but I am also slightly losing my mind.

Our neighbour has a son who has autism and who screams as part of this (I believe). He spends each day from around 7am until darkness in the garden doing this, and I think he does it when he is inside as well. Unfortunately any movement (us, children, animals) seems to be a trigger.

He does also do this in the house but because of the way our houses are designed and because they are the end of terrace house we cannot hear it (and nobody else can).

I get it is really, really, really shit for her, but it is now becoming relentless. All day, every day when the weather is good - it means our home is not very peaceful at all and we cannot enjoy our garden at all (he seems to go into a much more shrill scream when there's movement in our garden). We've stopped feeding the birds and are letting the dog out the front yard when it needs to go out.

I know lockdown is tough, and the mother must be finding it very difficult, but it's having a huge impact on us and our family life - particularly not being able to enjoy our garden, being woken up and the kids struggling to sleep at night (we've now moved them into the front bedroom to try and minimise this).

WIBU to ask if her son can please be inside by seven pm and for some hours during the day so we can go into and enjoy our garden?

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Boulshired · 08/05/2020 12:19

I would love to know this medication that is available that the parents are refusing, the only thing I know of is melatonin and I am sure parents are not going to spite their neighbours by keeping themselves awake. Also melatonin does not work on all children. I know DS2 has been tried on them all.

x2boys · 08/05/2020 12:19

They are disabled Suger ,they can't help it and it works both ways I have an annoying loud twat as a neighbour pr,has we should insist he stays inside so I don't have to tolerate loud drunken arguments🙄

Brogley · 08/05/2020 12:22

Some disabled children are scary themselves, my children would be freaked out if some kid was scaring in them garden screaming all day

You could start with teaching your children about neuro diversity and other disabilities, that some people look different or act differently and different doesn't mean bad or scary. There are some book suggestions up thread.

Itisbetter · 08/05/2020 12:22

Would you wake and freak out if a baby cried at night? Would you blast music and dance around to scare next doors toddler inside? What sort of person are you @SugarOrSweetenerWithTheTea? If you behaved that way pointedly and repeatedly you’d probably be charged. Harassing disabled people is a hate crime. Trying to dress it up as “innocent music and dancing” is cowardly.

x2boys · 08/05/2020 12:22

And pr,has you should educate yourself and your children about disabled children so they are less scared and more understanding Suger ?

Spikeyball · 08/05/2020 12:25

If I knew an adult was deliberately targeting my disabled child to cause them distress I would consider reporting it as hate crime.

SugarOrSweetenerWithTheTea · 08/05/2020 12:25

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Brogley · 08/05/2020 12:30

I'd probably just stop typing at this point Sugar, you're coming across as worse and worse with each post.

Spikeyball · 08/05/2020 12:30

"Yes they can’t help it, but doesn’t change the effect it has on other people."

Your children being anywhere near my child would cause him distress because he finds other children scary especially young children but I wouldn't go and do something to distress them because of it. Because I am not an arsehole.

x2boys · 08/05/2020 12:31

no.you really don't Suger ,and you are coming across very badly if you think deliberately scaring a disabled ,vulnerable child ,well I it just shows what a vile human being you are .

Brogley · 08/05/2020 12:32

Tesch your children about disability, teach them tolerance and inclusion, then perhaps in future disabled people won't have to live knowing that their existence upsets the "normal" folk.

CorianderLord · 08/05/2020 12:34

Honestly, if possible, I'd move ASAP.

SugarOrSweetenerWithTheTea · 08/05/2020 12:43

Inclusion: the action or state of including or of being included within a group or structure.
Door mat: a submissive person who allows others to dominate them.

Note the difference. My children are inclusive, not doormats.

Itisbetter · 08/05/2020 12:48

The behaviour you suggest would be a crime @SugarOrSweetenerWithTheTea that’s because “society” considers harassing vulnerable people because of protected characteristics is abhorrent. Think about it.

x2boys · 08/05/2020 12:48

But clearly not educated about disabilities,shame on you Suger .

Itisbetter · 08/05/2020 12:49

I don’t think you understand what inclusion is.

Itisbetter · 08/05/2020 12:51

There are children brought up to be racists who’s parents are equally righteously sure their stance is correct.

SugarOrSweetenerWithTheTea · 08/05/2020 12:51

Playing music in your own home, as long as it isn’t between 11pm &7am is absolutely fine. Where is the law saying you have to tiptoe around other people and be shut in, miserable and unable to enjoy your own space?

x2boys · 08/05/2020 12:53

And let's face it these are very unusual times ,and we all.have to be a bit more considerate in normal times my son goes to his special school he has a routine ,in the school holidays he has his special needs play scheme one day a week ,other disability groups put on activities we can access ,none of this is available right now .

x2boys · 08/05/2020 12:55

Why are you so.determined that your deliberate harassment ,and deliberately scaring a disabled child is acceptable behaviour Suger??

Itisbetter · 08/05/2020 12:57

Where is the law saying you have to tiptoe around other people no law as far as I’m aware on tiptoeing, you were suggesting scaring the disabled child next door so he didn’t use his garden at the same time as you though, so not quite the same thing.

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Brogley · 08/05/2020 13:05

Harrassment - aggressive pressure or intimidation (see, I have a dictionary too).

Blasting music in a manner intended to cause distress, intimidate a disabled child, and try force him indoors is harrassment and a hate crime. The police would view it as such too.

Spikeyball · 08/05/2020 13:07

"unacceptable to expect people to tiptoe around you and also expect people to have nothing to say when your behaviour is distressing and affecting other people, regardless of cause."
So is it acceptable for me to deliberately scare your children because my child would find them being anywhere near him distressing.

"Life is noisy,"
Noise is what you are complaining about.

Itisbetter · 08/05/2020 13:07

I hate the ‘I’m disabled so push aside all your rights and quality of life’ attitude on here. I would imagine nothing gets in the way of your “quality of life”.