To feel like the only woman left who doesn't shave her pubes? 😂

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During a group WhatsApp with friends last night, conversation (somehow!) turned to pubes. It would seem I am the only one who doesn't shave the whole lot off. I've done it a couple of times in the past but it itched when growing back and I actually feel sexier with a bit of a muff! Does anyone else not shave these days or am I a vile ogre?

Do you think that men look like little boys when they remove all body hair from their torsos? In which case do you need to go to Specsavers? There are far, far more things differentiating between how an adult woman and a child look other than pubic hair, in fact if you had to list the main or most important ones it would be way down the list.

If a child somehow had hair would you say - wait is that - an adult woman? Looks the same to me...

But, grown adults have pubic hair, children don't

I'm a grown adult, I don't have pubic hair. The blokes I sleep with could in no way consider that I was in any way "childlike" or "innocent" or "vulnerable".

The issue isn't the consideration of the negative effects on society, the issue is automatically assuming anyone who enjoys sex with someone without hair is not decent. Surely you understand what a reductive train of thought that is?

I certainly don't as I'm permanently single, I just hope I never have to be taken to a&e anytime soon because it would be a national scandal, pictures in every newspaper across the land.

@toomanytowels 😂😂😂 you are hilarious!

Mariequeenofscots - like any man would ever admit its 'childlike', You really know what all your lovers are thinking?

So would you all consider a man who dates a flat chested woman to also be a bit ick? Because children have flat chests so having one as an adult must make you look like a child

This thread started as a fun but got progressively more disturbing. I am really not comfortable with the amount of mentions of children here... Perverts

You really know what all your lovers are thinking?

Given that I have a number of FWB who are friends then yes, I'm quite happy as to what they're thinking, because being friends we discussed it.

So basically the conclusion being asserted on this thread is hairless women only sleep with men who have concerning sexual tastes?

So I now have a bald muff. Just looked in the mirror to see if I look like a child. Hmm. Ever seen a child with sagging bosoms, stretch marks, streaky fake tan, chipped yellow nail varnish, and copper coloured hair out of a bottle with 2 inch grey roots? Oh and a giant arse.

Neatly trimmed. DH complains if it's too wild when exploring the basement. I can see his point, and if it encourages to venture south, that's fine. He shaves his balls. Once shaved his legs which I found very off putting. Muttered something about swimming. Didn't do it again.

By the way, having not had a shag for a very long time I wish to magnanimously make myself available for anyone curious about the hairy/bald muff debate, purely in the name of serious anthropological research, mind. As long as you stay 2 metres away.

@toomanytowels I shall fetch my dick on a (very long) stick!

One of the few advantages of Chemo was that when I lost my hair I lost ALL of it 😂 DH really liked it but I'm too lazy to maintain. My underarm hair never grew back though which is great.

Fact: Adults grow underarm hair, pubic hair, leg hair, men, in particulsr grow facial hair.

Fact: Some adults choose to remove some or all the hair in these areas. It’s a personal choice.

Before lockdown l went on a very pleasant date with a clean shaven man (face). He was not clean shaven to try and look like a boy.

Neiher do l as a 40 plus year old woman look like a young girl because l choose to remove my body hair.

And when you meet someone for the first time, they don’t know whether you have body hair or not. It’s not usually the first line in conversation.

I am in my late 20s and have always felt pressured by society to be hair free. Women are shamed into shaving/waxing far too often. I have heard so many disgusting comments about women with body hair that I have been ashamed of my own for most of my life.

I have heard "Are you kissing Hitler?" by a man referring to the state of a ladies privates. A man once referred to his girlfriend's private parts as "Not the tidiest I've seen". My very feminist friend recoiled in horror at another ladies leg hair because "hair is gross". I have seen many men disgusted by the idea of their girlfriends having hairy legs/other parts. So many people I know think hair is gross, and I suspect that most people I know are choosing to remove all of theirs.

I have not got a problem with people removing their body hair, but I do have a problem with language that suggests having hair is unclean. It makes me feel like a hairy freak! I shouldn't be ashamed of my natural body! I have been hair free in the past to try to fit in, but these days do as I choose. But I sadly still feel anxious as soon as I have a smear or have to wear a swimsuit or whatever, and worry that I will be judged as unclean!

Sadly I suspect that many of the people on here by saying offensive things about the choice to go completely bare are probably lashing as a defense mechanism after being shamed by people about having hair themselves.

A man once referred to his girlfriend's private parts as "Not the tidiest I've seen". I hope she never let him see her untidiness again, would be such a shame to shock the delicate flower.

So would you all consider a man who dates a flat chested woman to also be a bit ick? Because children have flat chests so having one as an adult must make you look like a child I used to work with a lovely woman who had a very slim figure, no bust to speak of. Apparently her husband's first wife was very similar. Friends used to joke about him basically wanting an adolescent boy which was hilarious until he left her and their 3 kids to go off with a 19 year old boy. Obviously doesn't mean all men are like that, fashion is a big influence but it does happen or at least it happened once. She was totally devastated as were her children, I remember her saying how disgusted she felt with her body as it obviously was "wrong." It was one of the saddest breakups I've witnessed.

Mariequeenofscots, they may be your friend and/or lover, but why would they admit to you that they like things 'childlike'

@1forsorrow She never knew he had said it, and I think they are still together 10 years later. Bothers me that people like that exist in the world! How can you be so rude about the body of another human being, especially one you are supposed to care about?!

Mariequeenofscots, they may be your friend and/or lover, but why would they admit to you that they like things 'childlike'

Because we do discuss things.

Not one of them has ever expressed an interest/requested me being hair free.

So they prefer with hair?

So they prefer with hair?

Current says the interest is me not whether I have hair or not, he just doesn't care either way. I've also slept with him with hairyish legs, hairyish underarms and yep, he doesn't care.

Is the concept confusing you? Doesn't appear to be rocket science but there we go, every day is a school day.

Never shaved it in my life, and I'm in my 60s. The idea of adult women without pubic hair makes me feel weird.

I mean I know it tends to diminish in old age.

marshmallow I agree it is horrible that young women feel pressured into removing body hair by men used to porn and by SM/the media only showing hairless women (except for those extraordinary eyebrows!). There has always been a prejudice in the UK against hairy women but it didn't in my generation (57) extend to bushes.

It's all very well saying 'do your own thing' but unfortunately not everyone has the confidence to do it. And those callous comments you mentioned are revolting. There's nothing to suggest hairiness is unclean, and I very much doubt the nurse who takes a smear from you would give hair/no hair a second thought. As for swimsuits, well it's not concern about uncleanliness but a desire for neatness that makes me trim for a cozzie. There are far greater horrors in store for someone seeing me in a cozzie than a few stray hairs but at least I can do something about them!