To not download the contact tracing app

[Ghostlyglow]

When it becomes available. How many people will?

Who is developing it? Which company?

I read in another thread on here that the contract was given to a friend of Dominic Cummings.

If that is true that’s a good enough reason to not download it.

it depends on how sensitive it is no one is going to want to isolate for 2 weeks on the off chance that a jogger running past I thought the idea was that a phone that had been in close proximity fora certain length of time not a quick 2 second register

my smartphone is a windows phone so loads of apps don't work, I will not be upgrading my phone, I do not have bluetooth enabled anyway i only enable it when uploading photos from phone to PC/printer

I'm not sure I trust the government or any 3rd party to somehow keep data reuse it for other purposes or not let you delete it

lifting of lockdown can't be dependent on people having certain models of smartphone that has already been said that it will not be in any way mandatory but they need quite a high uptake

The online tracking + move away from cash is a godsend for trying to shut down a lot of low level crime / underground economy but would also cause genuine issues for many people who are already on the outskirts of society or simply in difficult circs.

Interesting:

www.wired.co.uk/article/contact-tracing-apps-coronavirus

Each tiny thing is a building block to the future. Tests, antibody tests, apps, temperature checking......the more we can embrace this stuff the quicker we will get back to something resembling a normal life.

That will be way more important for some that others. This app will be the equivalent of staying in during lockdown! We will do it to protect other people.

There is going to be inconvenience and a degree of uncertainty with much of it.

But why are people with symptoms or a diagnosis even.out.. I. Don't get it.. Am I being thick??

Issues

A lot of people keep Bluetooth switched off
A fair number of people (older IME) only switch phones on when using them
Tranche of people who don't have smartphones

Questions
Sheer volume of contacts in cities, how on earth will that work
I didn't realise Bluetooth saying hello I'm around to another device shared enough data to contact the owner???

Exactly, frasersmummy, it will be chaos.

I’ll download it, no idea why I wouldn’t

Hmm - based on who is analysing the data

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/thenextweb.com/neural/2020/03/27/fantastic-cia-funded-palantir-is-helping-the-nhs-plan-its-coronavirus-response/amp/

feetfreckles
Thank you, a very clear explanation

@frasersmummy I believe it will be that you log it when you are showing symptoms, but you will have potentially been carrying it beforehand, and it will alert those people (I think). Rather than watch out, avoid that person they have covid.

www.wired.com/story/apple-google-bluetooth-contact-tracing-covid-19/

More info on how it works in practice.

I am not v techy but I still don't really get how a temp hello to another device is enough info to contact the people.

And whether it would be possible, if they can do it, for others to do so as well.

I have doubts, is the bottom line.

Massive issues with it from what I can see.

Fraser “ But why are people with symptoms or a diagnosis even.out..”

I don’t get this either.

They would have been contagious before the symptoms showed, LilacTree1. This app would tell you that you have had contact with someone who had later gone on to develop symptoms

I don't understand why you wouldn't.

@servers..ah right that makes sense.. Thank you

Thanks Blade

The other thing will be that other bugs will be reported as covid

I imagine there’ll be a big increase in bugs when we’re released and able to work again

there are also all sorts of problems you could technically be within 2 metres of someone but separated by a wall or a window malicious use to falsely get people to stay home so giving them unnecessary financial hardship,
it is a civil liberties issue too a huge one

My absolute only issue is having to have bluetooth turned on the whole time for it to work (if I've read correctly)
Mines never on waste of battery.

OK, I'm being thick here...how would it work? Will we be informed if we've had contact with someone who has tested positive? And then what? We stay at home for two weeks? And keep our children at home for two weeks?

For those saying no. What would you like to see instead? How do we get out of this mess?

Here's a bit about the difference between:

a) the system being launched in the UK, where the government (well, Palantir contracted to the government) gets the tracking data on a central server,

and

b) the decentralised system proposed by Apple and Google, where the matching happens on phones and no one ends up with a centralised database of who has been associating with whom.

NHS rejects Apple-Google coronavirus app plan
www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52441428