To not download the contact tracing app

[Ghostlyglow]

When it becomes available. How many people will?

if people dont have any apps on their phone fair enough but if you do this ones no different

youre just going to delay lockdown they need a certain percntage for it to work

Why ?
If it's because you don't like the idea of being tracked , you do realise smart phones even watches have gps . CCTV everywhere it's impossible not to be tracked .
I will do anything to get back to normality so yes most definitely.

I don't understand how it works..

It connects to another phone via Bluetooth and tells you what exactly?

No , everyone with a smartphone does not need to use it to be effective, and the uk government is unlikely to make its use essential to use public transport etc

A lot of people will need to

I would as the alternative is either use of much more scary things like facial recognition, track8ng of debit cards etc or another lockdown

Who are these strange people who don't take their mobile with them when they go out?

Why have a mobile at all then?

Mobiles already hold and are capable of transmitting so much data about us, I honestly can't get worked up about an app which is being open about what information it is collating, sharing information and what it is using it for.

Just because you download it during these difficult times, does not mean it is for ever.
If it keeps you and your safe and means we get summer back instead of watching it from our houses, instant that a good thing?

I don't understand this contact tracing stuff.

I live in NW London and say they let us back out/ work even I will be in proximity with utterly stacks of people.

How will it work in cities? Densely populated areas?

Isn't it just to make people feel like something is being done?

I won't. Don't trust them not to leave the data on the number 57 bus by previous mishaps.

If they push downloading it - I'll leave my phone at home when I do.

I'm under no illusions that they can track me anyway - but I'm not making it easier for 'em.

Untamed plenty of people don't have smartphones/ don't keep their phone on all the time.

It exchanges codes with other phones via Bluetooth , to keep a record of codes that it has " heard". It will only keep codes heard a few times, as a passing contact is unlikely to transmit the virus

If someone the develops symptoms, they update the app, which tells the database, and everyone who has heard the codes from that person will be informed , enabling them to isolate away from family and vulnerable people and seek out a test

Because of the use of codes, you don't know who might have infected you

It means that only a few people need to lockdown for a few weeks rather than everyone for months

The data can be cleared from the database every few weeks because there is a maximum time for which notification is needed

I keep my Bluetooth switched off though!

So do lots of people for various reasons.

Does your bluetooth have to be 'on' and in 'discoverable' mode for the app to work?

I don't leave my bluetooth discoverable as a matter of routine, I only turn it on when I need to pair something and then turn it off again.

BeetrootRocks It's been incredibly successful in South Korea.

Their infection rate has been much lower than ours.

I mean I switch it on if I want to play music in the car or have my headphones but otherwise I keep it off.

I suspect that's not uncommon...

Only based on what I've read, it seems that if someone else has the app and then logs that they have it, it will automatically contact everyone who has been within a certain proximity during a certain time period, as you may be carrying at that point but not symptomatic. That means that hopefully you will then isolate and take the neccessary precautions to help slow the spread. It will only work if lots of people use it, and won't stop the user catching it, but might help stop you spreading it as widely. That's just my understanding though, someone more enlightened will hopefully correct.

Isaw it’ll give you more info than no app, though. And I bet a lot of people will download.

I think it's a great idea, about time our government got up to date with modern technology. I already have Facebook and Google so my every move is already being tracked. I would far far prefer an app to a longer lockdown, or to increased deaths, which are the other options.

I won't be downloading. Mainly because it makes me SO ANGRY that this app is only just happening now and not 4 months ago when the government were warned about coronavirus

Classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face there. What an utterly ridiculous attitude.

I'm really confused about how it's meant to work.
I believe you tell it your symptoms and if it thinks you have covid it tells everyone you have walked past to go home for 14 days?

So if I wanted to close down my school, or place of work, or a competitor, I'd just tell it I have a temperature and a cough, and cause everyone in the area to self isolate for a fortnight?

And what if they don't? Will it track them to see if they have really stayed in?
Will it nag you if you leave home before 14 days are up? Will it report to anyone that you are not behaving?

I know that's all speculation, but it's not a huge leap of the imagination. I mean, who , 6 months ago, would have thought the government would be confining us all to our houses and the police fining people for going outside.!

I probably will, I guess if I was going somewhere ‘interesting’ I would leave it at home. In reality I will be going to work, school, town etc and not drug dens or brothels.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52442754

How it works ∆∆∆

I can see a host of issues.

My opinion, is it won't be much good tbh.

Anyone techy know how if a device detects another device over Bluetooth, enough data is shared to enable non Bluetooth contacting of people who have been in proximity?

This is really interesting by the way, thanks for the thread.

@bladeofgrass.. Imagine that in the hands of teenagers in a school