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Snubbed at private school? AIBU?

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nonamesleftatall · 28/04/2020 08:18

So in September I moved my children to a private school about 30 mins from my house. DC in Y4 and DC in reception. Previous school was also private but small, very intimate and friendly, children were happy with good friendship groups (youngest was at nursery there), but had to leave due to work commitments/ personal stuff.

At new school reception DC is settled and the Mums seem to be very friendly. Y4 DC is having a rough time (and so am I). Parents very unfriendly, I think only 5 have actually spoken to me at all. I have sent notes/ WhatsApp inviting kids for play dates at my DCs request and one note was totally ignored.. despite child running out and handing it to Mum. My son kept asking if she’d replied through October HT and she never sent a text to say busy still haven’t heard. Other requests for play dates via text have been met with we are busy for the rest of the year?!?! This was 2019. One child even lives in our village and this has been declined. There is a parents group and people just seem unfriendly, the total opposite of reception and the previous school. Our house used to be filled with kids for sleepovers, dinner, play dates, bbqs. My DC keeps asking in lockdown as we are doing our garden and we are talking about once restrictions are lifted having people round etc... and he keeps asking about friends from school. He seems very out of sorts and like a former glint or is prior happy self. I would elated if someone offered to have my children for a day!!

I am a youngish Mum - under 30. We are also not super wealthy. I drive a very low grade car which is pretty out of place amongst the range rovers and volvos. Also I know year 4 is an odd age to join. So my question is will it get better with time? Or should I pull them out and send them somewhere else? My husband thinks I am projecting my anxiety about it on to our son and the friendships we had at the previous school were rare. But then it is odd that reception are so friendly. As an example another new boy this year whose mother I knew prior the school move invited whole year (2 classes of 16) to a birthday party and only 3 kids said yes and one was my son. I asked 1 parent at rugby whether their child was going and she said no we said we are going away. I think this I strange. This lady had also posted on the group about a play she was in locally with a photo and not one person out of 32 acknowledged the message. I sent a message about a drama worship in Feb and again not one person replied. Will it just take time or are they just mean???

I feel quite insecure dropping off due to car/ and everyone doesn’t speak to me. Granted some are probably 20 years older (although I made many lovely friend at previous school who were older) and it’s the Range Rover brigade with country boots etc... but we are all just mothers who want the best for their children.

So my question is AIBU. Click yes if you think it is early days and by year 4 people are past the play date phase and I may just have an unsociable year group. Or no if you think it sounds like a nightmare and I should get my child out!!! The only trouble with that is he struggled with the move and what if I move him again and it’s no better? Plus we live in a 3 bed semi and it’s a huge push for us to send him to that school... to buy uniform, registration again would be so hard to pay for.

Also can I ask if your child goes to private school... honestly would you judge someone if they didn’t fit the stereotypical profile. Would driving a Yaris, being younger, not looking apparently monied bother you? We are all paying and want what’s best for our kids. I have friends from all walks of life. For background son is sporty, friendly, never had any issues with friendships ever always been friends with everyone.

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MarginalGain · 28/04/2020 12:55

But the ones saying really wealthy people often drive old bangers are being disingenuous. This is an anti status game and these people are clearly always wealthy. And yes you can be totally scruffy and even dirty and it is still clear that your clothes are very good quality rather than from Primark and that your accent was not obtained by growing up in the local council estate. Ask anyone that meets them if they think these people are working class and everyone will know they are not.

Why would you assume that the OP is working class or from a council estate?

biglouis123 · 28/04/2020 12:55

I think its important for kids to learn to tough it out at school and make their own friends in their own way. I was a shy kid and I did eventually make friends.

I had a hard childhood with strict parents and was often punished for the things my sister did because she was a snitch. It made me hard and smart and I survived.

Parents who wrap their kids in cotton wool are not really helping because its a bl*y hard world out there and they have to learn to cope. They will never do that if life is handed to them on a plate with every I dotted and every T crossed.

cantory · 28/04/2020 12:59

@MarginalGain Where did I make that assumption?
Hint - I didn't.

AppleKatie · 28/04/2020 13:37

Would driving a Yaris, being younger, not looking apparently monied bother you?

I haven't read the full thread so apologies.

But this bit screams- they think you are the nanny not the mother. If they've made this assumption they also think you might not be around long term/they've got less in common with you/you'll have your own young friends etc... so it's not snobbery so much as just thinking you're on different wavelengths.

cantory · 28/04/2020 13:44

Except it is snobbery to assume she is the nanny. But I agree that is likely.

Freeasabirdy · 28/04/2020 13:49

Iknewyouwerewaitingforme

OP- Volvos are the ugliest cars around and definitely NOT elite. People with range rovers think they say wealth/money/class but its the polar opposite, please don't feel shamed by your car!

There you go OP, people will be nasty whatever car you turn up in Grin

pinkstar01 · 28/04/2020 13:59

I'm like you OP, my DS is at reception at a local prep and I drive a small Aygo and I honestly couldn't care less what anyone thinks. Tbh I could afford a large range or whatever but I choose to drive a small easy to park car. It makes no sense why people drive massive cars which are a pain to park and drive on small streets. So far I havnt noticed any rudeness but I think maybe it's just that reception parents are a lot more involved as it's all new and as the kids get older they manage their own social lives?

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 28/04/2020 14:19

Ooh I love the Volvo XC40 though, not ugly at all! (Couldn't afford one and it was at least a 4 month wait, but lusted after one for months!)

4Smalls · 28/04/2020 14:24

Agree with LaMarschallin:
It actually doesn't matter whether the school is private or not.

Mine have been to both private and state schools and some classes were friendly and some were not at both.

No one cares what car you drive OP. Really. The mum of the most "popular" girl in my daughter's (private school) class drove an ancient banger and lived in a super-modest house.

Is there a PTA you could join?

Try not to let your son see you insecurities about all this. And perhaps use this lockdown time to talk with your son about how to make friends. Lots of good tips for children online.

2bazookas · 28/04/2020 14:30

I have sent notes/ WhatsApp inviting kids for play dates at my DCs request and one note was totally ignored.

Notes and whatsapp invites from a virtual stranger a bit pushy?

I'd be very wary of sending young kids on a playdate a half hour drive away, where I hadn't met or got to know either the parent or the child.

Bakedbrie · 28/04/2020 14:38
Is your car this bad OP? Mind you these days Onslow’s car would be a valuable Classic - respect!
LakieLady · 28/04/2020 14:44

They sound like a bunch of nouveax riches snobs. I know a few proper posh people (some with titles) and they drive shabby old cars and often look scruffy.

I also used to see one of the local viscounts shopping in Tesco and looking like a tramp, and he drove the scruffiest Audi estate I've ever seen, all scratched and dented.

They're a bunch of judgey bitches, I reckon, and probably all fur coat and no knickers.

cantory · 28/04/2020 14:47

@2bazookas Ignoring a text or message is rude.

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Freeasabirdy · 28/04/2020 14:52

I know a prince who drives around in a twenty year old Volvo estate covered in straw and dog hair- oh wait I don’t, it’s a load of cliched bolloeux.

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dancingbadger · 28/04/2020 15:47

Hi op I can empathise my dc have been to both state and private, but you get these characters everywhere, incidentally there were more range rovers at the state school then private.
My youngest joined a private school in yr 4, for the most, the parents were ok but there was some resentment that another child had joined a small class thereby diluting the one on one teacher time! Funnily enough the worst comment was by one of the dads on our first parents evening saying something about how new people keep on joining their little group, directly in ear shot! Tbh I couldn't give a shiny shit what they think, we are paying the fees too and have as much right to be there as them! So in my experience by yr4 a lot think they've got their feet well and truely under the table and view new comers as encroaching on their territory.
For what it's worth secondary school is an absolute dream, no pick ups and drop offs, no cliques, dc chose and invite their own friends with no parent prejudice, hang on in there!

Xenia · 28/04/2020 16:00

I have a second hand volvo estate. I don't care what cars people drive. I like mine. Some people like other kinds. The reason teh volvo is good is I can put all the seats down and I often am lugging tons of stuff to the tip or moving children to university etc. It is an absolute boon of a car for me. We used to have one with 2 seats in the boot too so all 5 children could be seated in it in about 1998 (previous volvo estate)

I don't like these high kind of cars like range rovers unless you have to drive over countryside tracks but if people want them that's fine too as are those who cycle every where. Each to their own.

LIZS · 28/04/2020 16:05

I joined a prep school with dc reception and year 3. In the end the reception parents were more welcoming because until then even nursery children had only met a limited group and they were remixed for classes. We also spent time waiting on site together for our other children to finish. We saw less of other parents in the older age group as they had established friendship groups and activities.

TheHobbitMum · 28/04/2020 16:05

I also think it's just the year group, I had 2 DC in the same year but different classes and each class was world's apart. Granted this was state and not private but I think its them and not you.

You could move and have the same issues all over again so I don't think moving is the answer, I'd persevere for a while longer and try your best not to let it get you down.

Leaannb · 28/04/2020 16:12

@Cantory ignoring a message from someone you don't know is not rude. Its prudent

Freeasabirdy · 28/04/2020 16:26

I think it’s rude, especially when it’s a new parent in the year. I think it’s rude not to introduce yourself to anyone joining, it’s basic manners and takes seconds.

Parsley1234 · 28/04/2020 16:38

You’ve Just got a bad year group.
My son was at prep school on a bursary I worked full time in my own salon and he definitely was sidelined many times by not being invited to parties etc.
I found it incredibly hurtful however by year 5 I accepted it was the way it was he was happy enough he had good friends so he thought and I had good friends too.
IMO nouveaux riche are the worst they are so socially climbing aspirations it’s embarrassing now he’s at public school I let him organise his own life and friends and it’s much easier however you have my sympathy it’s horrible when your own children are snubbed.
If the demographic is affluent you probably are seen as the nanny ?

Phineyj · 28/04/2020 16:49

Sorry, haven't read the whole thread but while I wouldn't deliberately ignore a message (even from a stranger) a playdate invite would take me a few weeks to fulfill given complicated commute and work pattern and I would also worry about when I would reciprocate - so might not respond immediately.

I would think a 20 something person picking up at my DD's school was a nanny/au pair probably. It's not prejudice but statistics!

boylovesmeerkats · 28/04/2020 16:51

My kids don't go to private school but it is a nice school and maybe because it's a faith school there are some things in common with a private school crowd. We're not likely to live near each other so you don't have to rub along together so much and many parents drive so I do understand the car thing. I have a crappy car and I don't really care about cars but I do know who has a nice car and who has one like mine.

Anyway some parents are snobby, some won't even smile hello. The Y2 group is SO different from the reception group. The older class warmer and friendly, the younger class more glacial but so keen to look good on the class WhatsApp. Hardly any parties or playdates though. Y2 there are loads and people are nice.

As for what you can do? Well I'd be glad that your youngest has the nicer class, your eldest only has 3 years tops and surely the impact on moving them again would be terrible. What happens if the next school is no better.

I'm sure there must be some nice parents there somewhere, just take your time. It's not an easy time to make friends at school at the moment so ignore the social side for now. I ignore the snotty mums. They're dull as dishwater on a night out and their kids are rude. Why not make friends with the mum who was in a play?

I don't get the quiet groups either, why people don't reply to WhatsApp posts but then I'm northern so we share a lot.

All your child needs is one friend, to be honest they don't even need that but I'm sure there will be someone. Maybe even groups outside of school. if they enjoy the school work and being at home that's a really good thing.