Some people enjoy patronising and depressing others

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Clearly everyone is having a different experience of the current situation. It seems to me from the posts here and elsewhere that MN is full of people searching for threads from people either asking genuinely when others think the restrictions may be reduced, or people expressing mental or emotional.distress due to being locked away, sometimes alone. The pattern is the OP posts, there are a couple of sympathetic/in the case of lockdown speculation dovish opinions then the Depressor swoops, usually with a formulation along the lines of:
If you think these restrictions will be lifted anytime soon you are a naïve fool. Christmas will be cancelled and things will never fully return to normal

In the threads expressing mental distress their standard formulation is a variety of:
FFS pull yourselves together. It's been (insert number) weeks, how the F do you think people coped in the war the. All you are being asked to do is stay in and watch Netflix

There seems to be a remarkably large number of people among this cohort who claim grandparental involvement in WW1/2 and have a partner/sibling serving as a front line NHS worker. These depressors seem to scour MN looking to pounce on people expressing povs like the above.

I'll be making do with Back Passage Bingo tonight again. I'm toying with the idea of dressing up for it.

I am that bored.

This thread will be ending soon. Should we start another one to call to account dementor-ing, or is that a bit OTT?

What could be call it?

‘Mumsnetters against Dementors’

I'll cross my fingers for you.

Theoretically, if everyone who gets on the ship is clear of the virus, the self-contained nature of cruise ships would be better than visiting a resort. But you'd have to axe the day trips to islands and so on.

I wonder if cruise ship companies could develop some kind of quarantine arrangement, where you would quarantine at a hotel at the port for two weeks, and then embark on the cruise. But would anyone want to go if that was necessary?

Yes let’s not let our lovely thread degenerate into an argument about cruise ships and council estates. We’ve all written stuff on mumsnet that people have taken out of context.

Agree. Don't bring a downer on my chavvy sex pond vibe

Golly how do you play Back Passage Bingo?

Golly how do you play Back Passage Bingo?

Carefully?

Mumsnetters against Dementors

Forever known as M.A.D

I think the people who want lock down to continue are often those who would prefer to be a SAHP but can't afford it. They think the government is going to pay them 80% of their salary for two years to be that SAHP.

Others are in a good financial position and 6 months or so (over the summer) of being a full time parent on a reduced salary won't affect them too much.

Also helps if you have a house with plenty of space and a garden.

Those who live in cramped conditions, those for whom every penny counts (so a 20% drop in salary is a big hit), those living alone and feeling lonely, those living in an argumentative (and worse) house are not having such a great time.

Furlough can't be paid long term, it's too expensive. Many people will be facing redundancy over the next few months. Given the risks to those under 50 with no underlying conditions are minimal, I think many people are wanting to get back to work.

I completely understand the anxiety if you, or your nearest and dearest, are in an at risk group but most of us aren't.

Thank goodness there is some sense still left.
I know there is a lot of anxiety about but I can't help thinking that some people aren't genuinely anxious but really love the drama. And there is also what seems to me quite a nasty, morbid fascination - all the 'but you'll die drowning...' I won't repeat word for word but it's almost as if they enjoy thinking and writing about it. And then when a pp comes on showing some knowledge of palliative care they're shouted down too. It's really really nasty. Sorry that's too depressing really for a thread that is fun.
Anyway, we're all going to die because I dared to mention palliative care which just shows that I don't care at all about people dying. Because I'm stupid. And have failed to understand the issue. And I need to get a f###ing grip.

Matt Hancock has said fertility services will be restored. The Dementors will hate that!

My favourite was the poster who berated the OP for going to the shop for milk, as milk is non-essential - apparently the OP could just use water on her breakfast cereal instead.

I was on that thread - a particular poster took a real dislike to me and called me thick and stupid because DH had bought me chocolate when he went to get some milk. Apparently he shouldn't have been buying the milk even though we'd run out, it's not essential when you have a tap!

Garden Centres are supposed to be opening soon too. We’re all going to die!

@iamapixie I agree about the nasty, morbid fascination with this. I really think that there are people who are disappointed that we seem to have turned the corner. They're disappointed that ice rinks aren't being turned into morgues. They're disappointed that life will resume some normality and they won't feel special having a go at others anymore. They're disappointed that the hospitals aren't overwhelmed. I don't have a holiday booked but I'm looking forward to sitting in the park or a coffee shop with my book.

I'm absolutely ecstatic at the idea of businesses reopening. I can't wait to get back to work and get DS back to school.

Me too @waxoneaxoff0

I do agree that some posters seem to be getting off on all the bad news and horror (I tend to suspect that they are 'worried well' people in less-affected parts of the country and don't know anyone that's had Covid, much less having had it themselves). Sometimes I feel like telling them that's it's in the post for them, too, but I don't because:

1. I try to be nicer than that, and:
2. If I use a phrase like that, they'll start burning all their post instead of disinfecting and quarantining it, and I feel things have really gone far enough, don't you?

Now that I'm pretty much recovered, I am enjoying lockdown and could happily carry on like this for another year or two, but I know how privileged I am and that others can't keep living this way, for all kinds of reasons. Of course there are dementors on both sides, as we've observed...

...and of course I appreciate that a lot of people wouldn't want to carry on this way, regardless of financial considerations. Hell, I miss the shops and the pub a bit, and I daresay I will miss them more when I feel 100% again.

I think I too tried to talk about palliative care after reading a book recently, but too got sort shrift. Like I 'wanted the old people to die' or something. Oh, yes I remember now the word used was 'murderous' MN removed the comment though.

I don't like all the words used in the press either, 'grisly' for example. We really need to learn to talk about death in a less scary more accepting way.

Oh a funny, mini dementor thing happened today in the primary school class group. Child J asks in the main wall, can I do task in X way? A child answers No, J, you must do the task Y way, read it again. Teacher: J, that's a lovely idea, go ahead.

They love saying "It's an awful way to die" as well.

Like a heart attack, cancer or dementia would be better.

They also prioritise CV19 deaths over any others. So if someone dies from suicide, or poverty then it is more acceptable than if they died with the virus.

It is like all othere diseases and problems have ceased to exist.

Yes, totally black and white thinking as well.

They also don't like it that many die with the virus and have underlying conditions. That really upsets them

Oh yes. Dying of anything else is a breeze. I did wonder at one point whether maybe some of these PPs have just never known anyone to have died before. Or to have been ill. Admittedly one person close to me had a 'good' death; most others, it really wasnt; and a couple have been horrible. Obviously my theory can't be right - surely if nothing else people will have lost a great grandparent or other elderly relative - (but then obviously I'm very stupid and don't understand how me jogging is going to kill everyone so nothing I say is right anyway... Ah actually losing the plot a bit is helping... Hold on am I becoming a dementor?!)

I'll say this here but not anywhere else. My Granny died of pneumonia after catching a bug in a care home years ago. She had severe dementia. I was a small child but family said it was for the best. There is a reason pneumonia is called the Old Man's friend. Poor Granny didn't know who anyone was and was very distressed most of the time. There was drama in the family all that way back, some felt if she hadn't been in the home she might not have caught it (shared room)- it was not long after she went in she got it.

They also prioritise CV19 deaths over any others. So if someone dies from suicide, or poverty then it is more acceptable than if they died with the virus

it is like all othere diseases and problems have ceased to exist

Urgh YES! If you die of covid it’s much chest beating and lamenting and wailing. If you die of anything else it’s tough shit- who cares?!
Yeah, as if dying of dementia or a stroke is easy as pie! It’s bizarre. Unless you die of covid you really don’t matter to them- your life is basically worthless.